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  • U8LE Valencia: August 10, 2008
August 10, 2008, 08:38:30 PM +0100 - Valencia (GP) - UKGTR Season 8 Lower Endurance (GT3)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Busi
 Team Pseudo Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770052) GT3 1 1:36.284
92.276mph
1 1:20:26.673
88.356mph
48 1:36.771
91.812mph
Dunlop  
Joss
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) GT3 2 +0.335
91.956mph
2 +9.559
88.182mph
48 1:37.069
91.530mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#940008) GT3 6 +0.821
91.496mph
3 +21.725
87.960mph
48 1:37.348
91.268mph
Dunlop  
purdie
 Racin24-7
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#4100) GT3 3 +0.553
91.749mph
4 +35.310
87.714mph
48 1:37.844
90.805mph
Dunlop  
Reign Man
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW Z3M (#610052) GT3 11 +1.291
91.055mph
5 +36.119
87.700mph
48 1:37.506
91.120mph
Dunlop  
Gazza49er
 Team Pseudo Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770052) GT3 5 +0.739
91.573mph
6 +40.396
87.623mph
48 1:37.723
90.917mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW Z3M (#3115) GT3 4 +0.587
91.717mph
7 +1:22.506
86.871mph
48 1:38.250
90.430mph
Dunlop  
Jon Marjanen
 
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#3100) GT3 9 +1.191
91.149mph
8 +1:22.912
86.864mph
48 1:38.158
90.514mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
BMW Z3M (#3115) GT3 21 +3.166
89.339mph
9 +1:36.792
86.619mph
48 1:38.846
89.884mph
Dunlop  
jan duijs
 Dutch Turtles
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#4100) GT3 13 +2.023
90.377mph
10 +1L
86.150mph
47 1:39.165
89.595mph
Dunlop  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) GT3 20 +3.145
89.357mph
11 +3.440
86.089mph
47 1:38.667
90.047mph
Dunlop  
spanner
 
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#3100) GT3 22 +3.179
89.327mph
12 +8.466
86.000mph
47 1:39.190
89.573mph
Dunlop  
Ted
 Team Pseudo Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770052) GT3 18 +2.789
89.678mph
13 +8.977
85.991mph
47 1:38.547
90.157mph
Dunlop  
Linus27
 Peanuts Motorsport
Lotus Elise (#270146) GT3 12 +1.693
90.682mph
14 +23.643
85.732mph
47 1:38.798
89.928mph
Dunlop  
Prof
 Team Shark
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#830001) GT3 14 +2.077
90.328mph
15 +27.819
85.659mph
47 1:38.879
89.854mph
Dunlop  
evert blommert
 Dutch Turtles
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#3100) GT3 17 +2.461
89.976mph
16 (+4) +31.869
85.588mph
47 1:38.008
90.653mph
Dunlop  
H@L9000
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW Z3M (#610052) GT3 8 +1.069
91.263mph
17 47 1:37.868
90.783mph
fuel
Dunlop  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770014) GT3 23 +3.242
89.270mph
18 +2L
84.451mph
46 1:39.903
88.933mph
Dunlop  
JPS
 
Lotus Elise (#3118) GT3 16 +2.430
90.005mph
19 +0.259
84.447mph
46 1:39.325
89.451mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770014) GT3 25 +3.705
88.857mph
20 +3.375
84.392mph
46 1:39.982
88.863mph
Dunlop  
psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#720052) GT3 15 +2.315
90.110mph
21 +10.152
84.275mph
46 1:39.215
89.550mph
Michelin  
Mcfids
 Team Pseudo Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770052) GT3 24 +3.429
89.103mph
22 +12.041
84.242mph
46 1:39.998
88.849mph
Dunlop  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#4101) GT3 7 +0.832
91.486mph
23 +4L 44 1:38.537
90.166mph
fuel
Dunlop  
Mr.BMW
 Prodigy Racing
BMW Z3M (#3115) GT3 27 +4.368
88.272mph
24 +16L 32 1:39.879
88.955mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Carl Hart
 Racin24-7
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#4100) GT3 10 +1.285
91.061mph
25 +38L 10 1:38.507
90.194mph
unknown
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Sonic Racing Team
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 19 +3.090
89.407mph
26 +40L 8 1:39.464
89.326mph
unknown
Michelin  
API
 
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#3100) GT3 26 +4.132
88.479mph
27 +47L 1 2:56.114
50.449mph
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 265s

Busi is leading the pace lap and engages his limiter 13 seconds before reaching the start line. Whilst this is less time than ideal, it's well within acceptable limits, and indeed the pack behind him down to Michael Boylan in 12th has no problem forming up and engaging their limiters. The "20 second rule" is a rule of thumb - the polesitter is not expected to know exactly where 20 seconds before the start line is.

Jan Duijs in 13th is where things start to go wrong. He zooms up behind Michael and is unable to slow down in time to avoid him, instead ducking to the left and coming to a virtual standstill before engaging his limiter and then rejoining the queue.

Prof in 14th has left a generous gap and has no trouble slowing to join the snake, but grinds almost to a halt as the result of Jan's sudden slowing.

Psuedo, in 15th, engages his limiter before Prof has done so, and then also has to slow dramatically. Because JPS in 16th can see Psuedo's limiter on, he begins to close up, only to suddenly find the Viper almost stationary, and JPS then has to jam on his anchors, and gets touched from behind by Evert in 17th.

Evert then engages his limiter whilst almost stopped and Ted behind engages his before rather inevitably driving into the back of Evert's now stopped car at almost full limiter speed. PRibeiro engages his limiter in response to Ted and then has to go left to avoid him.

Dave Gymer almost gets stopped in time but lightly touches the back of Ted's car, whilst Pete Allnut dives right and Spanner left in avoidance, the latter engaging his limiter whilst grinding to a halt.

Martin, in 23rd sees the chaos ahead and slows right down; McFids and Legzy do likewise but API cannot see the danger until it's too late and runs into Legzy, for which he did a voluntary drive through. Finally, Mr BMW comes rushing up the back of the pack and has to swerve left rather dramatically to avoid everyone.

The principle cause was Jan's over-eager attempt to close up on the pack. Secondary to this were the drivers who engaged their limiters prematurely - namely Psuedo, Evert, and Spanner - sending the wrong message to drivers behind and exacerbating the concertina effect.

Drivers are reminded that because the pit limiter light is visible in GTR2, they should not attempt to close right up on the car in front until they have visual confirmation that it has engaged its limiter, and should not engage their own until safely positioned in the "snake".


Server replay time: 378s

Evert's Vertigo is following the Elise of JPS into the final corner and runs into the back of him. It's not a passing attempt; neither car goes off and no position is gained, and the Elise did lock a wheel, suggesting that its braking was not 'normal'. This was, however, at the end of the first flying lap, at a notoriously tricky corner, and Evert had no reason to be very close to the Elise in this corner this early in the race when the Vertigo would not have been able to pass the faster Elise down the straight.

Based on the nature of the incident I'm therefore assessing a 2 place penalty rather than the normal 3 for a first lap rear ender.


Server replay time: 1794s

After recovering from an off, Evert is passed by JPS. Evert takes T10 much quicker than JPS, and looks to the inside into turn 11, but fails to either get alongside or back out in time, and there is contact, putting JPS off the track. Evert keeps the place, and JPS loses two as a result.

This was ill-judged rather than egregious, but because Evert gained and JPS lost through it I'm applying the full penalty.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
GT3
1:36.284
92.276mph
Busi
Qualifying
Gillet Vertigo StreiffAugust 10, 2008, 08:38:30 PM +0100
U8LE
GTR2
GT3
1:36.771
91.812mph
Busi
Race
Gillet Vertigo StreiffAugust 10, 2008, 08:38:30 PM +0100
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« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2008, 03:01:52 PM +0100 »

I'm on the low-mid 37's on race trim by now, that should do it I hope
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« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2008, 08:38:12 PM +0100 »

Not had a chance to have a go around here yet, but i will be having a praccy later on tonight
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« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2008, 03:33:32 PM +0100 »

One question: Are the event start times GMT or UK time? I don't remember if they are currently the same or not.
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« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2008, 05:22:38 PM +0100 »

Jon, the times are UK times. We are in British Summer Time so we are GMT+1 err.. I think.
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« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2008, 05:43:45 PM +0100 »

Thanks!
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« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2008, 08:53:26 PM +0100 »

Legzy, I'm really sorry about the hit that happened just before the race start!  Embarrassed. It was totally my fault. I decided to give myself a drive-through penalty. Then I accidentally pushed the esc key and that was the end of my race  Grin. Sorry Legzy!
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« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2008, 08:57:47 PM +0100 »

Very very carefull, to win some places in the early laps, i got 3 or 4 places like that
then, i was hit again................ Roll Eyes
I hope you all had fun.
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« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2008, 09:54:02 PM +0100 »

Had an ok start, me and Legzy had a comming together that was morso my fault for an aggressive attack on Legzy. He was kind enough to wait up and let me pass!

Played the Catch-Up game for about 12 laps, and caught up to the battle for 23-20th and got a couple of places in there. Then on lap 16ish, I hit the last turn before home straight a little to hot and ended up in the sand. I forgot how much these cars hate that stuff compared to their GTL counterparts.

Anyway, dropped ALLLL the way to last after all the fighting I did to gain some spots, and I was also 30 seconds behind. Tyres were feeling it after that spin and I had to fight with it for the next 3 laps till my schedued pit. Came out of the pits 48 seconds behind, and figured I will just race around as I won't be able to compete again in the UKGT leauge for another month or so. Lap 33 and I hit the sand in the same place again, and just wasn't in the mood to get out.

I don't think i'll ever get the hang of these cars!
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« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2008, 10:14:22 PM +0100 »

Not a very good race for me. Qually was very quick but managed to get 7th with a pb.  Got past a couple of people in the first few laps and had TT for company but i started to over drive the car and caught the curb at T2 and spun and dropped down to 12.  Had a little scrap  Micheal in the elise but kept making mistakes.
Decided to take my stop about 3/4 through decided to double stint the tyres and no fuel which paid of as i was up to 8th with SBG right behind ,had a good battle for 5 or 6 laps but then my ran out of fuel with 5 mins to go .  Made a stop but could not get the pit selection screen to pop up  Roll Eyes so went back out and ran out fuel.  Sad

Grtas to podium

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« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2008, 10:15:07 PM +0100 »

Yuk.

That was 80 mins of shear hell.

The Viper is pretty hard work round here at the best of times....but the track temperatures were far too much for the tyres. had to go with hards all round and they were running at 100 deg plus after the first 3 or four laps.....and it just got hotter and hotter and hotter. sweatdrop

Ah well...Zhuhai next....usually cold there  ninja

Grats to Busi on the team win....and grats to the podiums.
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« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2008, 10:15:53 PM +0100 »

What a mixed bag Smiley

Brilliant first half of race. No real deffence against the Vertigo (hopefully a Bimmer track will be here soon Smiley) but had an excellent battle with both pink bimmers. I led into pits where the ruddy uber efficient crew decided to fill up me tank, damn it I lost 30 seconds to those on my pace. Had nothing to do except try to lap Vertigos which was nigh on impossible as well, despite them helping out nicely. Then an ace finish with Dan to round things off. I almost went for that pass in T1, but turned all mousey half way through Wink

Gotta say ta Pseudo for moving over. I had already pitted and knew you hadn't hence the flash.

Congrats to the podium and RM who took bimmer honours I believe Smiley

  
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« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2008, 10:21:44 PM +0100 »

There was some sort of problem with my timing, I suddenly was shown 1st then 10th then back to 1st. I think many drivers weren't shown the blue flags so it was a bit more risky tonight.

Nice fight with FreQ who pushes that Nissan over its limits, luckily my pace got a bit better and the 2nd stint was easier ahead of him.

Finally an official victory Cheesy grats to rest of podium Smiley
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« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2008, 10:24:05 PM +0100 »

Awesome race again, one of the best so far for me until the last lap when I ran out of fuel. I was in 7th place. :'(

I had great fun chasing SBG and Reign Man who got me in the pits. Me an RM where in viewing distance of each other for the entire race but only swapped places once Shocked

Gutted to run out of fuel, I stopped on the last corner.
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« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2008, 10:26:28 PM +0100 »

Firstly, really sorry to whoever it was that I hit just before the start. Not sure what happened, everyone seemed to close up really quick. I hope it didn't cause any damage  Sad

After that I had a great race, really consistent lap times and some good battles with Prof and Spanner at various points. Fantastic chase at the end with Spanner - great driving mate  Cool

Happy to accept any penalty if the incident at the beginning was my fault. Need to check the replay...

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« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2008, 10:36:45 PM +0100 »

I had a great race I think. I had a bit of a slow start as I didn't really know what to look for since I'm not used to this format but it was okay. I was pretty much on the pace with everyone around me but at the same time everyone around me seemed to just go a lot quicker on the straights. Even if I was in the slipstream those pink BMWs just kept pulling away on the straights, but I was pretty quick in the twisty parts.

Early in the race I had a fight with Carl Hart which ended in contact. That was completely my fault. You made a good pass into T2 but I was able to get on the inside right next to you and by the time we got to T3 I couldn't see you anymore. It's no excuse though I should have left you more room. I'm really sorry about that. I hope your car wasn't damaged.

Apart from that I had two moments in the last turn... I spun once and I think may have lost a place to one of the pink BMWs. Then later in the race I half spun but managed to catch it.

I had a great race. I was running 9th or 8th for most of the beginning, then people started pitting and I was 2nd. 30 seconds behind the leader and I still had 20L of fuel left. In the end I think my first stint was too long because the 3rd guy who had already pitted was able to catch me and pass me for 2nd. I pitted soon after, but I forgot to put on softs and went out with mediums again. The car was good in the first stint but a lot better in the second. I was catching up to the guy in front of me, another BMW, and got to within a second but ran out of time in the end.

I had a lot of fun and I'm looking forward to the next one. Thanks everyone!
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