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September 14, 2008, 10:07:14 PM +0100 - Mosport - UKGPL Season 16 (2008) Clubmans '67
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Will Tway
 
Honda RA300 F1 1967 1 1:22.663
107.131mph
1 38:14.683
104.200mph
27 1:23.171
106.477mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 2 +0.085
107.021mph
2 +21.871
103.216mph
27 1:23.720
105.778mph
Firestone  
paulwbird
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 6 +1.145
105.667mph
3 +43.753
102.250mph
27 1:24.909
104.297mph
Firestone  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 8 +2.218
104.332mph
4 +52.933
101.850mph
27 1:25.042
104.134mph
Goodyear  
Jack O'Ferrall
 Reed Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 10 +2.582
103.886mph
5 +53.555
101.823mph
27 1:24.972
104.220mph
Goodyear  
Screwcutter
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 5 +1.137
105.677mph
6 +1:01.707
101.471mph
27 1:24.208
105.165mph
Goodyear  
Burtoner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 7 +1.269
105.511mph
7 +1:06.667
101.258mph
27 1:23.659
105.855mph
Firestone  
Mike Wrightson
 rF Gentlemens Racing Club
Honda RA300 F1 1967 4 +0.982
105.873mph
8 +2L
101.903mph
25 1:23.063
106.615mph
Firestone  
b_1_rd
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 9 +2.477
104.014mph
9 +2:07.884
96.238mph
25 1:24.829
104.395mph
Goodyear  
Ben "Welling" Summers
  Team Backwards Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 12 +3.505
102.773mph
10 +9L
101.106mph
18 1:24.765
104.474mph
Disco
Firestone  
Ian Stanley
 Reed Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 11 +3.109
103.248mph
11 +1:01.921
97.285mph
18 1:24.524
104.772mph
Disco
Goodyear  
G Poole
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 13 +5.478
100.473mph
12 +20L
87.365mph
7 1:30.426
97.934mph
Disco
Firestone  
RIKBRIANT
  Team Backwards Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 3 +0.961
105.900mph
13 +27L
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0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
3 UKGPL67
 
Honda RA300 F1 1967 14 14 DNS ---
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Firestone  

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A fine win for Will Tway ahead of Bernie in the Lotus and Paul Bird in another Honda. A very clean race with only 1 reported incident.


Server replay time: 0h32m26s

Lap 22 - Turn 9 - Michael Wrightson and Michael Turner

Wrightson is joining carefully after running wide. Turner overtakes Wrightson but cuts back in a little early and warp contact is made. Both cars spin off but can continue undamaged.

Neither driver did anything wrong here but in the interests of self preservation Michael Turner should have given Michael Wrightson a little more room.

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« on: September 11, 2008, 10:54:32 PM +0100 »

UKGPL Season 16 Clubmans Cup - Round 1 - Mosport - Sep 14th

Gentlemen, welcome to the first round of the championship, see race announcement below.

Unfortunatelly, due to time constraints, I have not been able to write a Season 15 review which I intended to do; real life has kicked it up a notch and I'm trying to tag along but it seems to be driving a Lotus. I will give my best to see out this season as a moderator as I'm bound to struggle to take part in many races.

Nice to see some old names (not what you thought of bernie), some new faces and some returnees.

Congratulations to Bernie for winning the Season 15 Clubman's trophy - can he be beaten this season?

Good luck all.

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Race date = 14-09-2008, 20:30 BST
Track = Mosport
Race length = Int Long (27 laps)

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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2008, 12:06:26 PM +0100 »

After the server problems on Tuesday I've launched the server for testing. 

Server name is UKGPL67_3.

Please make sure you can connect OK.

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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2008, 04:13:34 PM +0100 »

Though being eternally imprisoned in 1967 means that the REED RACING mechanics will have to work on the H-16 over and over again, there should be less effort needed on setups this time around.  Lord Loot is pleased to announce a new deal with his mechanics whereby his drivers will be able to use the pit lane this season, so long as the pit crew are not required to wear orange jumpsuits when off-duty, which might ‘cramp their style’ over the racing weekend.  They also want to take turns driving the medical truck, rather than have Bell decide, to prevent a repeat of last season's fights.  This unique, groundbreaking agreement can only be good news for fans of the team that aspires to be UKGPL's most successful single-chassis outfit!
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2008, 06:17:30 PM +0100 »

Phil,

I'm taking part in the Trellnet challenge which starts in about 45 minutes. There should be 30 mintues practice and 50 minutes race. Would you please launch the server if I'm not back in time?

I just tested UKGPL3 and it worked fine.

Thanks

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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2008, 06:32:41 PM +0100 »

I'm in it too.  We should be finished before 8:30.  I know Burt for one is also racing in the Clubmans so he won't be able to join until the race with Trellnet is finished.  Jack could start the server but I don't think that will be necessary.
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2008, 09:02:23 AM +0100 »

A satisfactory if unspectacular start to the season.

After starting 9th I found myself up to 4th by Lap 2 and after a few more laps a considerable gap had opened up between myself and other racers. It was beginning to look like one of those races where you never see another driver. Until Lap14 that is, when Burt appeared in my mirrors and Mike W emerged from the pit lane just in front of me. Some fairly hectic racing ensued but Mosport is a difficult track to overtake on and I managed to keep Burt at bay until Lap 18 when he had an off.

I then found myself as the meat in a Honda sandwich between MW and Diki until Lap 23 when MW went off and my rear wheel clipped his front wheel as I turned in as he was rejoining the track. MW sportingly allowed me to rejoin in 4th position so I remained sandwiched between 2 Hondas but with Diki ahead and Mike behind.

Shortly afterwards, Mike retired to be replaced in my mirrors by Jack. Fortunately the chequered flag appeared just as Jack was closing in so I finished a creditable 4th. Could have been a podium if I hadn't turned in that fraction too soon :'(

Just shows what can be achieved simply by staying on the black stuff!
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2008, 11:33:35 AM +0100 »

First of all congrats to Will on a fine faultless ? race.

It felt good to be back in the saddle of my favourite Lotus again , practise was good for the front row , surrounded by a school of whales .

I was super confident at the start knowing the jap fuel barges would be so slow off the line that I could get a nice easy lap to warm the tyres up.

Things were going good up front,  managing to keep 'Tway at bay'  (sorry its the the poet in me) untill around half distance when a small mistake gave Will the lead , The pursued became the persuer and after a bit of close stuff I managed to draught past him on the straight bit to regain the lead.

it was around about this time I began to 'stiffen up' I hadn't noticed untill now but every time I approached that take off point for the 'Hump' I was gripping the wheel as if I was hanging on to a cliff edge with an elephant tied to my feet.

The end result was Cramp developed in both my hands , so I was now driving single handed but using alternate hands and shaking the "free" one around like a lunatic trying to put a  firework out , trying to get the blood flowing again . With all feeling gone , It felt like driving on ice and I had the 1st of 2 offs at the bottom of the hill , I was expecting the whole field to pass by but in the end I managed to recover my composure and carry on at what seemed like a snails pace to the finish . Boy was I glad to see the man with the  chequer waving .

A great opener for me in the end,  though It looks as if the Honda boys will be out for revenge soon. I will need a slower chassis or a looooooong pit stop to compensate if I am to keep my Lotus drive.

But the great thing about Clubmans , in theory it should all even out over the season .

Hope you all enjoyed round 1 as much as I did     

Forgot to save the replay so I dont know yet how the soggies faired apart from Mike who was 4th (I think)

Congrats to all who finished,  Mossie is a tough track to race,  and for those who didnt , well done for trying  Roll Eyes


Cya soon  Smiley

   
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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2008, 11:47:19 AM +0100 »

That was all a bit of a night mare really.

I've been having some problems with my wheel and pedals.  I had a spare wheel of similar make, but that too had a problem, so I decided to go for broke and try and make one good set out of the two available.  Armed with a soldering iron I changed one of the pots used in the throttle as that was the control giving me most of the problems.  The issue was the existing pot had a 45 degree arc to use, the new one would only use 34 degrees, but I thought I'd try it and see how it went.  Swap complete, I gave it a shot, and it worked well, but was very sensitive to changes i.e. breath too heavy and you'd be on full throttle before you knew what was going on.  That's fine along a straight, but trying to control that in the bends or on the exit was a bit tricky which resulted, as anticipated, in many spins.

Anyway, I thought I would just try and get through to the end without taking anyone off or throwing the car too far off to need a reset and hope others ahead would retire.  Enough people did pull out for one reason or another to end up 9th.

I now have utilised a squash ball under the throttle peddle which gives me a bit more control over input and seems to work quite well, so hopefully at the next meeting I will spend a bit more time on track.

Sorry if I did get in anyones way, but as you can imagine an on/off throttle, with my limited driving skill didn't help much.

Cheers for now.
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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2008, 01:19:51 PM +0100 »

That was all a bit of a night mare really.

I've been having some problems with my wheel and pedals.  I had a spare wheel of similar make, but that too had a problem, so I decided to go for broke and try and make one good set out of the two available.  Armed with a soldering iron I changed one of the pots used in the throttle as that was the control giving me most of the problems.  The issue was the existing pot had a 45 degree arc to use, the new one would only use 34 degrees, but I thought I'd try it and see how it went.  Swap complete, I gave it a shot, and it worked well, but was very sensitive to changes i.e. breath too heavy and you'd be on full throttle before you knew what was going on.  That's fine along a straight, but trying to control that in the bends or on the exit was a bit tricky which resulted, as anticipated, in many spins.

Can't you recalibrate the new pot via the windows joystick thingy so that GPL just sees it as a normal full throw?
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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2008, 02:19:00 PM +0100 »

My advice


GPL and Pot dont go  Roll Eyes


try guinness its much better for you  Cheesy


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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2008, 03:51:14 PM +0100 »

Hell yeah. That was a fun one. Hardly faultless though. Nearly fell off several times and that hump just gets harder and harder every time...not the one on my car the one on the road.  Wink

Bernie smoked me off the line and took the inside line for P1 and I hung on for dear life as I saw a Coop in my mirrors getting bigger and bigger. I think the Coop went off and was replaced by another humpback. Now it was on. Bernie, Mike and I were all close for nearly all of the first half. As Bernie mentioned, I got by on the S/F line after he just slipped into the grass and I held the lead till the back straight where the power of the Lotus prevailed. A fantastic lap it was. Mike W. was on fire as well. Great to see several new faces in the series.

I did notice at one point the running order was Lotus, Honda, Honda, Honda. Now that's a rarity in Clubmans. Gotta love it.

I know I said in chat I'd be away for the Glen but I was mistaken, I don't leave till the first of Oct so the humpback with ride again at the Glen.

Grats to Bernie and Diki.

Mr. O'Ferrall had one hell of a drive as well.  Grats.

 
Cheers,

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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2008, 05:16:48 PM +0100 »

I would choose the two tracks with scary hairpins to make a comeback  Cheesy  Shocked

After 24 laps of Rouen just before, I found that my old 60/60 diff setup for Mosport felt wild!  Made some adjustments to tame it down and got a decent qually time, fuelled it up for the race and then set my fastest Q lap on race fuel  Roll Eyes  All was set.. should be a good race... ahem.

I had forgotten one thing about GPL.  I had not assigned my new comfortable setup for the race Sad

Off the line well and OMG! Car is all over the place, really wobbly for the first couple of laps until I got settled down.  Followed Bernie and Will to see if they would make a mistake, I was feeling really good until lap 14.  Cough, splutter, cough.  I'm out of fuel  Huh  Yes.

Spluttered to the pit straight, S-R, then a stop-go next lap and I was out just in front of the battle for 4th, got the hammer down again and started to pull away, then caught Bernie who had just rejoined from a spin, and chased hard until I spun off at the hump.  Rejoined slowly and carefully as an Eagle was coming and I needed to let him go before I got back up to speed, but we touched  Embarrassed  I let him get back in front and then we were racing, got a couple of runs at him, but in places where I couldn't pass.

Then the fuel ran out again and that was that, called it quits.

See you all at the Glen, the Whale shall ride again and bring glory to TBR  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2008, 07:20:21 PM +0100 »

Forgot to save the replay so I dont know yet how the soggies faired apart from Mike who was 4th (I think)
Bully won't be updating his replay site this season.  Instead I'll be uploading them onto our usual replay web site.  To get there go to the UKGPL Home Page and click on Replays under the Navigation heading on the left.
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2008, 07:28:00 PM +0100 »

I sent off the proofs to the publishers, they came back with ‘Not interested unless the p_ b_ can win any races' scrawled on them, which seemed unfair given the undoubted literary quality I'd lavished on it.  Tom mentioned that publishers were full off attractive girls wearing spectacles, so on his suggestion I went along in my leopardskin, only to be turfed out of the building, if that's their attitude I'm surprised they're in the book business at all.  So, racing became the only option.  The agreement with the mechanics that we could use the pits after the start would help, but would it be enough?

After letting the side down at Rouen when I couldn't get the bw patch working in time, I wasn't on top form, and also omitted to start the race at the proper time- though at least this gave Mike, one of our Rouen heroes, some minutes to get himself together.

Qualification was average and I started well down the grid on the second last row, and then was very slow off the start.  However, though I was impressed by the quality of the first lap, there were a few spins afterwards and I climbed places as a result.  Then Burt appeared behind me.  It was too early to fight for a place with a faster car- but it was Burt.  Still, Burt's rep isn't all deserved- but it was Burt.  It was stupid to race that early- however, he had taunted me before the race about going around on the outside at Mosport.  So I let him try again… it was very enjoyable while it lasted, but after a few laps of close racing I clipped the inside of T2 and went off, ceding the place and losing much more time than I would have. I'll join the others on the ‘wishful third spot’ on the podium!  Burt had been very fair, but I was pleased when I passed him at the end after he destroyed his Ferrari engine, especially as he threw away all his good driving by coming to a halt on the racing line, lucky he'd been on the upslope when it went….  Burt suits Ferraris, though, he should stick to them.   Finally I got to chase Mike Turner for fourth, but he was too far ahead and I was only catching him because he was making sure of the place.  

Congratulations to Will- perhaps we could tempt him into the UKGPL race team, that might slow him down for Clubmans?  
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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2008, 07:37:00 PM +0100 »

That was all a bit of a night mare really.

I've been having some problems with my wheel and pedals.  I had a spare wheel of similar make, but that too had a problem, so I decided to go for broke and try and make one good set out of the two available.  Armed with a soldering iron I changed one of the pots used in the throttle as that was the control giving me most of the problems.  The issue was the existing pot had a 45 degree arc to use, the new one would only use 34 degrees, but I thought I'd try it and see how it went.  Swap complete, I gave it a shot, and it worked well, but was very sensitive to changes i.e. breath too heavy and you'd be on full throttle before you knew what was going on.  That's fine along a straight, but trying to control that in the bends or on the exit was a bit tricky which resulted, as anticipated, in many spins.

Can't you recalibrate the new pot via the windows joystick thingy so that GPL just sees it as a normal full throw?
No, unfortunatley.  Had it been the other way around, I could have dialled it out through DXTweak, but because its a shorter travel it won't calibrate out.  I've run a few laps since and it seems ok, and probably actually helps me a bit, starangley, it's just recalibrating my brain to cope with the faster throttle travel. Smiley
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