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  • NGT Sprint - S1 R8 - Oschers: August 30, 2005
August 30, 2005, 09:26:56 PM +0100 - Oschersleben (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 1 N-GT
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Matjaz Plotajs
 dE Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 1 1:26.957
94.118mph
1 31:55.631
89.719mph
21 1:27.689
93.332mph
Dunlop  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 3 +1.008
93.039mph
2 +17.602
88.902mph
21 1:28.378
92.604mph
Dunlop  
Mike Wrightson
 dE Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 2 +0.983
93.066mph
3 +17.786
88.893mph
21 1:28.629
92.342mph
Dunlop  
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 4 +1.190
92.847mph
4 +34.210
88.145mph
21 1:28.656
92.314mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Morgan Aero 8 NGT 5 +1.261
92.772mph
5 +44.279
87.692mph
21 1:29.420
91.525mph
Dunlop  
PaulW
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 6 +1.725
92.287mph
6 +44.775
87.670mph
21 1:30.000
90.935mph
Dunlop  
Bernie Lomax
 
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 8 +1.941
92.063mph
7 +56.880
87.132mph
21 1:29.035
91.921mph
Pirelli  
picnic
 Team Shark
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 9 +2.840
91.141mph
8 +1:20.571
86.097mph
21 1:30.345
90.588mph
Dunlop  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 10 +3.349
90.627mph
9 +1:22.359
86.020mph
21 1:31.130
89.808mph
Dunlop  
Woodee
 
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 15 +5.848
88.187mph
10 +1L
84.120mph
20 1:32.571
88.410mph
Pirelli  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 12 +3.993
89.986mph
11 +9.036
83.732mph
20 1:31.857
89.097mph
Dunlop  
Jamera
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 14 +5.606
88.417mph
12 +47.606
82.111mph
20 1:32.372
88.600mph
Pirelli  
Wilier
 Kerb Crawlers
Morgan Aero 8 NGT 13 +4.210
89.771mph
13 +1:01.815
81.530mph
20 1:32.470
88.506mph
Dunlop  
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 19 +14.806
80.424mph
14 +2L
78.912mph
19 1:33.627
87.413mph
Dunlop  
as-here
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 18 +7.595
86.558mph
15 +2.871
78.798mph
19 1:33.038
87.966mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 7 +1.864
92.142mph
16 +5L 16 1:29.305
91.643mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Glide
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 16 +6.690
87.394mph
17 +12L 9 1:35.684
85.533mph
unknown
Pirelli  
Don
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 11 +3.659
90.317mph
18 +14L 7 1:31.184
89.755mph
unknown
Pirelli  
ProtoSpecs
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 17 +7.226
86.897mph
19 +19L 2 1:55.377
70.934mph
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 50s

At the start of the pace lap, Don1 (wobble) is slightly slow away, and Tom Cooper pulls away ahead, and worse still, Don has to put himself alongside Tom three times before Tom will let him retake his rightful place.

Even if you can't see the car alongside when stationary on the grid, you can always tell whether it's ahead or behind you by looking at the row in front (or behind if you're lucky enough to be on pole). If the other car is ahead, the only reason you should pull away first is if they haven't moved at all for several seconds.


Server replay time: 180s

At the end of the pace lap, Popabawa is a little bit too eager to get close to the car in front, accelerates a bit too much on the final straight, and then locks a wheel whilst avoiding running into the back of Picnic.

This causes a chain reaction, with Don1 having to slow dramatically too, getting a light tap from behind by Tom Cooper, who is in turn hit by Wilier. Jamera manages to slow up in time, but Woodee doesn't see the pack slowing ahead until it's too late, comes flying past Jamera and Wilier, and has to take to the grass to avoid running into Tom.

The rule is that "each following driver should only accelerate when the driver ahead does". That means that if you accelerate significantly to catch up with the pack after the last corner, you're inviting the car behind to start accelerating hard. So don't.

  • popabawacaution — excessive acceleration at the end of the pace lap
  • TinMan (Tom Cooperv2)caution — contact on the pace lap
  • Wiliercaution — contact on the pace lap


Server replay time: 197s

As the field streams into turn 1, Tom Cooper is close behind Don1, who has taken up a position in the middle of the track as he's close behind Popabawa. Tom Cooper slows up as normal, but is just a fraction too close to Don1, and tags the back of him, causing Don to spin on the racing line.

Looking at the replay, Tom never actually makes contact with the back of Don's car, so there's a significant element of warp, but he's too close considering that he doesn't appear to be making a passing attempt.

Unfortunately, Don is now parked on the racing line, and unable to move because cars are streaming by in front, and there's nothing but gravel directly behind. Several cars make contact as they pass, and eventually a small pileup ensues. I'm not going to name everyone involved, but as a general piece of common sense advice, if you see smoke in turn 1 on the first lap, it's a good bet that you need to slow down a lot more than normal!


Server replay time: 832s

Don1 (wobble), having been spun to the back on lap 1, has been stuck behind a pack of three cars for several laps. Wilier, seeing Woodee having a look down the inside of Jamera at the Shell Esses, brakes perhaps a fraction early, but Don brakes at his usual point, and runs in to the back of Wilier at considerable speed, sending him sliding across the grass, where he collects Jamera, who had already conceded 11th place to Woodee.

This is a classic rear ender, mitigated partly by Wilier braking slightly early, and also by Wilier starting to drift to the right just before the braking zone, Don showing signs of target fixation as he also drifts to the right under braking - there was actually just about enough room to squeeze down the outside to the left of Wilier.

Don then retired.

  • Don (Don1)penalty — rear ending Wilier — 1 place lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

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« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2005, 08:41:25 PM +0100 »

Nah m8. Bernie Lomax and Tyf have shown it's totally competitive in races once you learn it's little idiosyncracies. i.e. it's about as heavy as a dump truck in the corners but the awesome turbos rocket you down the straights. If you like it and fancy being a bit different then it's cool as school.
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« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2005, 12:08:38 AM +0100 »

Troo! Wink Cheesy

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« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2005, 05:55:46 PM +0100 »

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Sorry Proto that was me, the 2nd one, dont know if you braked early or I just missed my braking spot, either way many apologies.

I got caught up in the fracas at the first corner, resulting in me spinning off the track, and starting the race with no other car in sight! Fairly uneventful race (apart from having to take evasive action from a Red 360 who decided to reverse into the middle of the track after a spin, right into my path!), after a dire quali session where I didnt manage to complete one full lap. My own fault though, couldnt keep it on the track. Ended up in 14th thanks to As-Here who span off just before the end  Wink

Cheers

Rob

Hi, rob.., these things happen,besides my car was a bit wounded already,because of the starting confusion discribed above.
At the time it was clear to me u totally missed ur braking point, in the replay however it looked both thing happend at the same time!
(me a bit early and u a bit late)    anyway no problem m8!

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