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October 21, 2008, 08:38:39 PM +0100 - Mugello (GP) - UKGTR Season 8 Lower Sprint (GTC)
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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psuedo
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena (#890052) GTC 2 +0.558
100.413mph
1 51:06.371
97.513mph
26 1:52.555
102.176mph
Pirelli  
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 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena (#890013) GTC 4 +1.602
99.506mph
2 +14.302
97.060mph
26 1:53.999
100.882mph
Pirelli  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 (#900001) GTC 10 +5.599
96.180mph
3 +14.629
97.050mph
26 1:53.779
101.077mph
Michelin  
evert blommert
 Dutch Turtles
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#4061) GTC 9 +3.883
97.580mph
4 +18.082
96.941mph
26 1:53.782
101.074mph
Pirelli  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 Modena (#810001) GTC 7 +2.954
98.355mph
5 +52.144
95.882mph
26 1:54.280
100.634mph
Pirelli  
Prof
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 (#900001) GTC 6 +2.302
98.907mph
6 +57.340
95.723mph
26 ---
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Michelin  
D_Nichols
 
Ferrari 360 Modena (#4058) GTC 8 +3.449
97.941mph
7 +1:02.158
95.575mph
26 1:55.013
99.992mph
Pirelli  
JPS
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#810008) GTC 12 +10.932
92.073mph
8 +1:47.757
94.202mph
26 1:56.538
98.684mph
Michelin  
picnic
 Team Shark
TVR Tuscan T400R (#940001) GTC 9 (+1) +1L
93.729mph
25 1:52.661
102.080mph
Dunlop  
David M
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#3050) GTC 13 +15.563
88.782mph
10 +5L
78.711mph
21 1:55.017
99.989mph
Dunlop  
Ken Murray
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 360 Modena (#3052) GTC 11 +6.909
95.137mph
11 21 1:55.096
99.920mph
unknown
Pirelli  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Mosler MT900R (#890008) GTC 1 1:53.973
100.905mph
12 +6L 20 1:52.927
101.839mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Steve Holmes
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena (#3070) GTC 13 +8L 18 1:54.933
100.062mph
unknown
Pirelli  
zak
 Racin24-7
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#4059) GTC 3 +0.816
100.187mph
14 +22L 4 1:54.652
100.307mph
unknown
Michelin  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#810008) GTC 5 +2.038
99.132mph
15 +23L 3 1:55.719
99.382mph
Disco
Michelin  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 1175s

JPS slides wide in turn 1, allowing Picnic to pass him on inside, but Picnic is only 90% clear of JPS's car before turn 2 and JPS contests the place, getting about 50% alongside as Picnic approaches the apex.

There is contact and Picnic ends up deep in the gravel. In my opinion this is a racing incident.

JPS touches the gravel and is able to rejoin but in doing so heads directly for the racing line instead of staying to the right whilst getting back up to speed and nearly collects David Milne in the process.

  • JPSwarning — dangerous rejoin
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1740s

Thirty seconds earlier, Dave Gymer gets a run on JPS who switches across the track in front of him, causing him to swerve to avoid running into JPS's car. Then, coming out of the final corner, Dave once again gets a run on him and moves left to attempt a pass; JPS squeezes over in an attempt to discourage a pass and avoids getting turned across Dave's nose by mere inches.

The rules say quite explicitly: "A driver must not move over on a straight to prevent a pass if doing so would force the driver behind to lift off or brake to avoid running into them." Such behaviour is unsporting.

  • JPSwarning — blocking
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1918s

JPS is defending from Picnic. Approaching one of the medium speed right handers, JPS brakes slightly earlier than Picnic expects, and instead of taking advantage, the latter locks up and slides into JPS, running into JPS and sending him off the track and into the gravel.

In light of the tricky conditions I'm reducing the normal penalty from 2 to 1 places.

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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2008, 09:41:28 PM +0100 »

When MJ (good luck getting that sorted mate Smiley) left I had nothing to do and all the understeer in the world to keep me company. Excruciating pain driving the 360 around there for me, must be a setup thing as I really enjoy the track in GT1. It doesn't get any worse than understeering past every apex.

Congrats to Pseudo Smiley

Still its goodbye to the BRD wheel and hello to the G25 and the world of FF (hope it isn't scarey) tomorrow Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2008, 09:42:32 PM +0100 »

TT...I am truly gutted for you  Sad....that was easily your race and your championship...you deserved it.

I was considering quitting out myself after your disco...to give you the championship you had earnt...but with SG in third at the time...with the possibillity of winning the race and therefore the championship, I decided against it. Such bad luck mate.
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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2008, 09:43:50 PM +0100 »

Blue flag, move over, let him through....
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2008, 09:49:44 PM +0100 »

Replay and provisional results posted

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I think Dave will be along to wave some magic over this as Prof was completely lost by the server.
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2008, 10:03:04 PM +0100 »

I think Dave will be along to wave some magic over this as Prof was completely lost by the server.

Weird, weird, weird.

A good qually session well inside the top 10. I loaded up my race setup and clicked the race button with 58 seconds to go to race start. The timer icon appeared and the game froze. I listened on teamspeak whilst my Shark team mates started the warm up lap. After a seemingly endless wait the game released me onto the track and I was able to drive round and catch the back of the pack for the start.
All my screen information was scrambled and I was shown in last place despite overtaking some people. The countdown clock ticked out with more than ten minutes race time left. I definitely raced the whole distance and finished a couple of seconds behind Gizmo.

Apologies to anyone confused by the seeming last place man chasing the mid-field harder than might normally be expected.

Congrats to the (reluctant) championship winner and commiserations to TT. Well done to the Shark crew for another stunning team title. Thanks to all I raced throughout the season for making it so fun. Really sad that my self-imposed ban will keep me from racing on Sunday - not tried that track since Indy Racing days.  Sad

As Picnic says, Dave please review the race tape to see if I can claim a finish.  Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2008, 10:09:28 PM +0100 »



Apologies to anyone confused by the seeming last place man chasing the mid-field harder than might normally be expected.


If that is the case, then I owe you an appology. I've been sitting here the last few minutes cursing you too high hell for blocking me and stopping me getting at Dave.

I also wouldn't have been as agressive with you through the corners.  oops
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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2008, 10:11:23 PM +0100 »

Grats Bob, unlucky TT.  One of the tough factors of exterior factors to influence the result.    It must have been a Man utd, (2 clear offside goals), and man utd supporters  night tonight.  Well done everybody for another top season.
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2008, 10:11:36 PM +0100 »

Grats on the title Psuedo Smiley a shame about your problem at the worst moment TT Undecided
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2008, 10:17:05 PM +0100 »

Fun and frustrating at the same time. Zero practice, took my Brno setup, slapped softs on it and it went okay in qually, so after dithering a bit over races tyres I stuck with them and things were going okay, but there was a lot of pressure from the cars behind, and I made the mistake of carrying a fraction too much brake into a corner (a mortal sin in the 360), whereupon the thing started to swap ends, and all I could manage to do was convert it from a spin into a tank slapper. Lost about 30 seconds dragging it back across the gravel and was way down the field.

After that set off after field and between retirements, offs and the odd proper pass I somehow clawed myself all the way back up 5th, passing Prof's forgotten boat and DMN's 360 in the final couple of laps. I think I must've had much better tyre temperatures than most, which meant they weren't scrubbing as much and therefore lasted really well.

Pity about the stupid spin, without it I'd have been challenging Evert for 4th at the end, but I got him in the championship anyway. Cheesy
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2008, 10:18:23 PM +0100 »


If that is the case, then I owe you an appology. I've been sitting here the last few minutes cursing you too high hell for blocking me and stopping me getting at Dave.

I also wouldn't have been as agressive with you through the corners.  oops

No need to apologise, it was a totally weird set of circumstances as I describe above. In my mind I was racing hard for the place against you and Dave. You had no way of knowing this but Dave knew what was happening over Teamspeak, thinking now you must have wandered what was going on to say the least. I was told I was showing up normally and I got absolutely NO blue flags at all.

Everyone will tell you I am first to make way when shown a blue flag, I've had enough practice. It even cost me a place in GT2 on Sunday as I gave a GT1 driver loads of room and ran out of track.

As stated above huge apologies for any confision I inadvertently caused.
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« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2008, 10:28:22 PM +0100 »

The confusion at the end aside thats the most fun I've had in a race in a long while.

Since my last races here at Spa, where I had two terrible races, I've been away working on my consistency and that work showed tonight. Only one minor error near the start. Very happy with that fact.  Smiley

I got the tyres are warn message with 10 minutes to go, which ment I had no answer to Dave and Profs pace. Tonight was my first race with Pirellis, so I had no idea what to expect. I was running soft fronts.
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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2008, 10:34:15 PM +0100 »

Usual last minute dive into the server, this time in time for all of qually. Looked for a setup for a similar-ish track and grabbed my Barcelona one. With the damp conditions I tried soft slicks but they felt awful first out, so almost immediately came in for inters and they were bad too, then went to hard wets and they felt good but no time for setting another time. 5.6 seconds behind in qualifying and all my team mates were putting on slicks for the race so I decided "what the heck, can't be any worse".

First flying lap in the race and I was into the 1:54s already, shaving 5 of those seconds off in one lap with soft slicks! Cool I thought, competive after all. Had a long battle with Evert and despite his best efforts I eventually forced my way past. I could then see SBG coming back towards me so I tried my hardest to catch, but I was one lap short of passing him (despite 34 tyre wear and the pit crew screaming at me) and I finished right on his tail on the last lap.

Horrible conditions, damp is just nasty.

Well done to Pseudo on the title and to Team Shark for the team title and to everyone that took part.
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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2008, 10:41:17 PM +0100 »

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Insert any and all of the words DG doesn't allow here.  Angry  Pole, comfortable lead of 7,5 sec, 10 min to the end and a disco?!?!  Angry  Last race of the season, I lead, have to beat Psuedo - and DID.  DISCO!  Sad   

What's the point of collecting the points, training, doing good in the race, when this halibut happens.  Angry Angry Angry

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That is truely rubbish. This is the crap part of racing on PC's relying on dodgey internet connections over thousands of miles Sad

TT...I am truly gutted for you  Sad....that was easily your race and your championship...you deserved it.

I was considering quitting out myself after your disco...to give you the championship you had earnt...but with SG in third at the time...with the possibillity of winning the race and therefore the championship, I decided against it. Such bad luck mate.


Nice, but I doubt TT would like to win it from charity either. Not your fault it happened at all, and you were there to take advantage. Congrats! Grin
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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2008, 10:43:19 PM +0100 »

I didn't have a clue what I was doing out there in my debut GTR2 race. I ran wets in practice because I thought it said it was raining but I believe it was just damp! Put soft slicks on for the race, which where much better. Setup was just a lightly tweaked default for BB and steering ratio and to be honest I was pleasantly surprised to be able to run a half decent pace. I was just content to circulate with anyone who was near me, although I did get in to more of a fight with one car that eventually spun. My pitstop dropped me right back though. I haven't a clue what fuel I requested but I was in there for about half an hour!! I quit out not long after that but I didn't actually realise how near the end I was.  Grin
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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2008, 10:44:34 PM +0100 »

Forgot to say how enjoyable Mugello was to drive. I was just thinking about the Rossi fan club every time I came round those corners at the bottom of the hill.  Grin
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