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« on: November 19, 2008, 10:11:27 PM +0000 » |
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UKGPL Season 16 - Amateurs - Race 6 - 65 mod - Rouen
The results of the Amateurs race.
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« Last Edit: November 19, 2008, 10:17:14 PM +0000 by Phil Thornton »
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bernie
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2008, 10:54:26 PM +0000 » |
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dont remind me Surely the BT11 isnt that slow around Rouen ? I was so for behind I was in last weeks race :'( What's the secret guy's , how do i get another 4 secs per
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john roberts
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2008, 11:45:41 PM +0000 » |
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dont remind me Surely the BT11 isnt that slow around Rouen ? I was so for behind I was in last weeks race :'( What's the secret guy's , how do i get another 4 secs per well i used my mexico setup without any changes .... john ps is there a server replay ?
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Clive Loynes
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2008, 07:53:18 AM +0000 » |
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dont remind me Surely the BT11 isnt that slow around Rouen ? I was so for behind I was in last weeks race :'( What's the secret guy's , how do i get another 4 secs per I posted a setup and lap for the BT11 on SBRC Race School Bernie. You have to wring their necks.
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2008, 09:05:49 AM +0000 » |
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Not having watched the reply to see what you were upto, but I'd hazard a guess you need to brake earlier for every corner barring the hairpin Exit speed is particularily important exiting Sanson as you shouldn't need to go near the brakes again till Scierie. Unless you're in a Ferrari then you need a decent jump onto the straight T1 and T2 maybe worth checking as they're quite tricky to carry maximum speed though. T1 requires very little slowing for - I was taking it in 6th in the Honda. T2 is even harder to get right as you have that huge dip to contend with if you go too fast As I said I havn't seen any of your laps so I may have it wrong for you
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2008, 01:04:50 PM +0000 » |
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T1 requires very little slowing for - I was taking it in 6th in the Honda. T2 is even harder to get right as you have that huge dip to contend with if you go too fast Yeah, in my Honda T1 requires no brakes just a lift at the start of the rubber marks then neutral throttle toward the apex then full chat to T2. T2 I know I lose time but my setup is not refined enough. I brake, go down 2 gears then get straight back on the throttle while sticking my arms, feet, legs and head out of the left hand side for ballast.
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Hristo Itchov
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2008, 03:17:38 PM +0000 » |
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Yeah, it's all about early acceleration, so hit early apex and floor it, pointing as straight as possible. Late braking and going wide loses you chunks of time, even at the hairpins. Watching some replays helps I guess.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2008, 03:58:13 PM +0000 » |
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Surely you mean late apex for early acceleration Hristo? I found the Hairpin at Nouveau Monde particularily tricky as you have to brake early-drift on the throttle to loose more speed through the left hander-then brake hard as possible for the hairpin proper. By the end of the race I found I was taking the complex significantly faster than the guys I raced with. If anything I find that corner harder in the 65's than the 67's! Any chance of a numpty graph Clive?
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Clive Loynes
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2008, 04:04:38 PM +0000 » |
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Any chance of a numpty graph Clive? Someone will have to furnish me with an analyser report first! I didn't get to race. :'(
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2008, 04:18:50 PM +0000 » |
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I added the Novice race report to the usual place
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Clive Loynes
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2008, 08:43:00 PM +0000 » |
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Did yours yesterday Alastair.
It's the Amateurs that we are short of.
Edit: And I am not going to download the whole replay just to produce a report when I wasn't even in the race. Any offers?
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« Last Edit: November 23, 2008, 01:30:21 PM +0000 by Clive Loynes »
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Phil Thornton
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2008, 09:49:03 PM +0000 » |
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Both Amateur and Novice replays available in usual place. Link is on top left of UKGPL Home page.
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Jack O'Ferrall
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2008, 01:08:31 PM +0000 » |
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If you're using the beginner's setups then its probably the setup Bernie as they're not very lively- they're only intended to help with the first time around a circuit.
The Amateurs grid was quite close and I wonder whether Clermont will produce as good a race- perhaps we should retain Rouen next season? I've also been contemplating Montjuic for a race next season- we should make more use of this fabulous creation. It might make a useful alternative to Monaco- while Montjuic is harder in the bigger cars, it might be easier in the 65s?
A chassis allocation league should improve as it gets older- however next season will be the first time UKGPL have run two allocation seasons one after another. I would have prefererred to have had at least one more season of the 40th anniversary system for the 67s as well.
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happyal
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2008, 10:05:49 PM +0000 » |
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Really enjoyed Rouen, I would very much like to keep it for next season.
Will there still be 2 servers next season?
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Jack O'Ferrall
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2008, 11:33:26 PM +0000 » |
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Depends on the numbers Al, sometimes they drop off after the first season. On the other hand I'd hope that we'd continue to attract beginner drivers, also the 65 mod will be patched at some point which should create interest. If its patched with slipstream it will be great, though this would require a long pre-release phase, and there doesn't seem to be any testing going on.
If we have the same numbers or more in season 17 then I'd want to split into a pro grid and a int grid, though it would seem better to have the same schedule so that they can stage practices together. Then it would be possible to organise chassis allocation based on separate grids to encourage closer racing- the Cooper and BT7 would be available for the Novices.
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