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  • S16 Mexico City: December 21, 2008
December 21, 2008, 09:45:09 PM +0000 - Mexico City (1962-1979) - UKGPL Season 16 (2008)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Ken Murray
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 1 1:38.888
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1 33:55.469
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20 1:39.153
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Dunlop  
MikeBeattie
 Drake Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.191
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2 +3.704
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20 1:38.682
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Goodyear  
EvilClive
 
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 6 +2.460
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3 +35.841
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20 1:41.598
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Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 8 +3.142
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4 +36.481
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20 1:42.058
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Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 3 +1.347
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5 +1:08.576
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20 1:41.074
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Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 Crash 'N' Burn Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 9 +3.322
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6 +1:29.749
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20 1:42.227
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Dunlop  
FullMetalGasket
 
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 13 +8.242
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7 +9L
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11 1:42.907
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Goodyear  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 7 +2.898
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8 +19L
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1 2:02.282
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Goodyear  
maestro57
 
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 12 +6.769
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9 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
NickyIckx
 
Ferrari 312 (1969) F1 1969 10 +4.395
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10 ---
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Firestone  
Will Tway
 Crash 'N' Burn Racing
Ferrari 312 (1969) F1 1969 5 +2.123
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11 ---
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Firestone  
b_1_rd
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 11 +5.006
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12 ---
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Dunlop  
Storm_Cloud
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 4 +1.441
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13 ---
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Firestone  
Gpl VosHost
 
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 14 ---
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Dunlop  
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Grand Prix Legends
F1 1969
1:38.888
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Ken Murray
Qualifying
Matra MS80 (DFV)December 21, 2008, 09:45:09 PM +0000
S16
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1969
1:38.682
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MikeBeattie
Race
Brabham BT26a (DFV)December 21, 2008, 09:45:09 PM +0000
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« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2008, 12:41:30 AM +0000 »

Well i only got home from work at 12:30 am was meant to finish at 11pm :/
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« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2008, 10:00:12 AM +0000 »

The lesson I learnt from last night is you can't set a '69 up in the 10 mins of online ractice you manage to turn up for  Sad
Dreadfull race for me, even if I did manage to go from qualifying last to 4th place on lap one  Grin
Shame my setup then started to fall apart from about lap 5 onwards along with my concentration - I quit on lap 11 as the car was trashed and I was knackered.

Can't say I enjoyed Mexico, but then I was fighting a badly setup car so I guess that didn't help..
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« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2008, 10:40:35 AM +0000 »

Posted results from replay here http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?p=3938946#post3938946

Left the server to clear my windows and it wouldn't let me back in. Communication Breakdown.
I crashed on the tyres with 3 minutes left of practice, got booted with an error screen!  Tried numerous times to rejoin, it just timed out each time.
This might be the server. Have an issue with one port (32768). Gist is with this on I cannot connect to inet - have to start IGOR, switch on Port then host race. It may have stopped your reconnect? I think it is a conflict and looks like might be the virus software. Anyway working on fixing it before the next race...

Having said that, the grid was set 2x2 instead of the ideal setting of 1x1 staggered.  I think loose grids are even more important with the 69 cars as they start so quickly. 
Hands up - thought I had set the loose grid, will double check next time

Anyway very glad to see the server ran well for most - will sort out the remote hosting so I don't have to go to work to start it. Got home in time to join but a domestic drama stopped me... Well done Ken

Have a great xmas


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« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2008, 12:41:41 PM +0000 »

One of those things, bit frustrating but it happens.

Thanks for hosting anyway.  When I was on there the server was very good.
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« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2008, 01:49:50 PM +0000 »

Thanks to Vos ( Tim) for the server. Hope you get the few gremlins sorted so that you can remotely control things. I can't think of a more depressing preparation for a race than "going to work" and rushing home to try and get onto the grid.!! Undecided

A shame that a few guys did not make the start for various reasons as that would have tested what appears to be a basically solid server setup.
The race was great fun despite almost throwing it away on cold tyres on Lap1 with a spin when I was in 3rd spot and had two luuuvveeerrrly fast cars in front to give my BRM racing barge a tow down the straight.

I think Clive and I were suckered into the BRM team and made to suffer a horrible pre season torture in that less than friendly chassis.
I think most of the engine power is transformed into noise, as there does not seem to be any power available from this beast. Interestingly Mr Loynes went for maximum downforce and I went for as little wing as I felt I could live with in an effort to squeeze some more speed.
The difference was minimal in terms of lap times and I dont think the setup difference can be what determined our race long duel in the BRM's.
I was able to draft past Clive at least a couple of times after making small trips to kiss the armco, and managed to get ahead again before the final lap. It seems barring a mistake there is nowhere to pass here with 69's except into T1 where the grip is just insane compared to 67's.

Lastly, a big thankyou to Phil for running UKGPL for another year and a big thanks to everyone for taking part and making this fun for everyone.

Merry Christmas and see you all again in the new year (hopefully in my mirrors  Grin)

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« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2008, 02:53:36 PM +0000 »

I breifly experimented with low downforce aswell, but just didn't have the time needed to sort the suspension/diff to suit - ended up just whacking the spoilers up high so it at least cornered!  Grin


Off-topic, but I didn't realise you were from Bristol too Clive  ninja
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« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2008, 03:19:50 PM +0000 »

ooer! someone else from Brissle!!

Dare I ask what part???
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« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2008, 03:28:34 PM +0000 »

ooer! someone else from Brissle!!

Dare I ask what part???

The posh part.

Oh wait, that's Baaaaaarth.  Grin
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« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2008, 03:44:04 PM +0000 »

My setup was a slightly modified Cloyd and was in essence a hotlap setup.  He seems to only do training laps so I guess that the max wing would enable me to go faster through the wiggly bits if I were any good at it.  Race setups need to consider other things, such as legging it past people on the straight.

Another strange thing about the original setup was that he had so much negative camber on the rear left that I can only assume that he uses it to run around the armco at T1.


Numptygraph is here:
http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?p=3939088#post3939088
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« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2008, 04:32:06 PM +0000 »

In my experience of the 69 Mod, there are few tracks where a "Low Downforce" set up pays dividends ( Spa and Monza being two of the exceptions).

 I had fun dicing with Ken, and as "Ginsters" mentioned, his car did seem to be able to drive through the middle of the tyres !  All a PC phenomenum I know, but it's very off putting when you are following him. Blew an engine about half way and did a Stop-Go, err well a sort of one Smiley I misjudged the Pit Entry and wiped two wheels off on the wall and had to do another Shift R !! Got dicing with Ginsters and Ken came back to us ( SnG ? or Charity ?). I was able to slowly reel Ken in but everytime I got close I made another mistake.

The 69s are totally mad into T1 and also the final turn which is nearly flat out for me, a bit like 65s on steroids Cheesy
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« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2008, 05:06:31 PM +0000 »

ooer! someone else from Brissle!!

Dare I ask what part???

Well posh me! I'm from Yate  Undecided
Or Yar-tay if you want to be a propper snob  Grin
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« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2008, 09:12:52 PM +0000 »

Blimey, thats a bit close !!! Shocked I shall have to start wearing a disguise. Only Clive Loynes has ever met the real me, and we did that in the mountains of Wales!!  .....don't ask ok!!!

I live in the Fishponds area, and have good friends out there in Yate.


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« Reply #42 on: December 22, 2008, 10:39:52 PM +0000 »

Eep! I'll have to dress like > ninja so you don't spot me  Grin
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« Reply #43 on: December 22, 2008, 11:52:05 PM +0000 »

I suppose I better apologise for taking the Matra. My poor excuse is that i'm not getting much seat time at all atm and I can't even remember the last time I sat in a 69er. Anyway it was just like riding a bike, you never forget!! These cars have so much grip, even on the grass!! I did consider starting from pitlane but I think GPL docs you a whole lap if you do that. Anyway Mike got away faster from the start and I was pretty much on the limit staying with him until his first mistake, and then he slowly eased himself back towards me before another spin saw him drop off the radar. After a couple of laps I started feeling lonely so eased up on the s/f to allow ginsters and Mike back through. I had fun chasing them back down and one or two more mistakes from them both allowed me the pleasure of taking the win.
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« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2008, 11:56:12 AM +0000 »

Apologies accepted.  Grin

I see you have given the BRM a spin as well, just to see what you were missing?


And grats on the negative 69 rank. 

Oh..............and Merry Christmas to you and yours.
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