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January 04, 2009, 09:58:32 PM +0000 - Brands Hatch (GP) - UKGPL Season 16 (2008) Division 1 '67
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Hristo Itchov
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 1 1:32.225
103.339mph
1 50:55.863
99.800mph
32 1:32.395
103.149mph
Firestone  
Ken Murray
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 2 +0.838
102.409mph
2 +49.525
98.208mph
32 1:33.366
102.076mph
Goodyear  
Samb
 Reed Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 4 +3.627
99.429mph
3 +1L
96.069mph
31 1:36.861
98.393mph
Goodyear  
Jack O'Ferrall
 Reed Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 7 +6.016
97.011mph
4 +1.480
96.023mph
31 1:37.465
97.783mph
Goodyear  
Phil Thornton
 Crash 'N' Burn Racing
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 5 +4.395
98.639mph
5 +1:05.455
94.067mph
31 1:35.926
99.352mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 6 +5.507
97.516mph
6 +3L
90.383mph
29 1:36.574
98.686mph
Firestone  
EvilClive
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 3 +1.858
101.298mph
7 +31L
93.219mph
1 1:41.167
94.205mph
Disco
Goodyear  
1 UKGPL
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 8 DNS ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Brands Hatch proved to be an interesting race.
Ken employed some doubtful tactics (although as moderator I will turn a blind eye just this once) to impede the following cars before scampering into the distance. Hristo showing his mastery of the BRM as both a race car and crash recovery vehicle and some steady and consistant driving rewarded several with good finishes.
Others managed to scratch the shiny paint on their new Brabham and get mud all over their racing overalls!!
The results move J.O'Farrell up to third in the championship race with Hristo still setting the pace out front.
Two rounds to go and it looks very close for the final podium places. Next, a romp in the sand dunes at Zandvoort and then finally Monza, where a great many championship positions could be decided in the last race of the season.

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« on: December 30, 2008, 08:50:12 AM +0000 »

Round 8 of the Season 15 Div 1 championship is at Brands Hatch.  Remember it is PRO rules for Div 1,  and the sweeping bends and undulations of this very British Circuit demand one's full attention.

We could benefit from a few more drivers joining with the current Div 1 crowd, so if you want to test yourself against the best ( and the rest!!) get practising Brands Hatch and be there on Sunday.

Don't forget, incident reports should be entered on the SRou system following the link at the bottom of the results table when it appears.  Race details below.

Div 1 Season 15 Round 8 is this Sunday at 9:00 p.m. London UK time.
Please be in VROC UKGPL chatroom by 8:55 p.m.
VROC and Race passwords: see above

Server 1.ukgpl
IP address  194.105.176.22


Race date = 04-01-2009
Track = Brand Hatch 67
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = PRO
Qually time = 30 minutes.
Race length = 50 minutes (32 laps)

Password: see above
Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page



Division 1
Single Stop Time
   
Double Stop Time
BRM
No Stop
   
N/A
Honda
Stop and Go
   
N/A
Cooper
1
   
N/A
Brabham
4
   
N/A
Eagle
17
   
N/A
Ferrari
21
   
N/A
Lotus
23
   
N/A


 First Pit Window is: 25 (to go on your pit board) to 17 (to go on your pit board)
 Second Pit Window is: 23 (to go on your pit board) to 8 (to go on your pit board)



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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2009, 04:02:45 PM +0000 »

I was just looking at the record times and I don't quite understand how the 67's Race laptime has lower average speed compared to the 66's Race laptime given that the former is quicker.
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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2009, 04:10:02 PM +0000 »

Great to here , does that mean I can use the 66 coop  Grin

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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2009, 06:51:09 PM +0000 »

I was just looking at the record times and I don't quite understand how the 67's Race laptime has lower average speed compared to the 66's Race laptime given that the former is quicker.

I cannot explain that Hristo Huh

I used the pitstop calculator and race length spreadsheet to enter the info as per usual.

I have to confess that I was surprised that the Lotus pitstop was not as long as i would have anticipated??,.....but I cannot argue with an official UKGPL spreadsheet can I Huh Undecided

Maybe Phil will have something to say on this  when he reads the post.

And NO Bernie you cannot use the 66 Cooper Roll Eyes lol
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2009, 08:53:36 PM +0000 »

Great to here , does that mean I can use the 66 coop  Grin



No and now for asking for that, you have to start from the back of the grid!  angel
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2009, 09:52:56 PM +0000 »

Great to here , does that mean I can use the 66 coop  Grin



No and now for asking for that, you have to start from the back of the grid!  angel

Cripes ! thats a bit harsh I was hoping for half a lap start  Smiley


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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2009, 08:33:43 AM +0000 »

sorry I'll miss the race, stupid work got in the way. Angry
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2009, 07:20:43 PM +0000 »

Unless Phil appears, and adds Brands Hatch to the list of circuits on UKGPL1 server there may be a problem guys? Undecided
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2009, 08:29:13 PM +0000 »

Been off-line for a while (reorganizing the house after re-decorating) all sorted now.  1.UKGPL is good to go.

On the pit stop discussions.  I added a race pace factor to the pit stop calculator this season to encourage people to use the faster chassis so we didn't get a series of "Cooper fest" races like we did last season.  The pit stop times have been available via the pit stop calculator link all season so they shouldn't be a big surprise.  I admit the adjustment for Brands may favour the faster chassis a little too much but they are the same adjustments we've used at all the other tracks this season.  Brands does appear to be a special case.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2009, 08:44:41 PM +0000 »

My remark wasn't about pitstops, but record times listed above. Average speeds are wrong in those.
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2009, 08:47:27 PM +0000 »

Thanks Phil....saved my bacon .........again Roll Eyes
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2009, 10:07:20 PM +0000 »

After all the stress and worry about this race and the server etc. it lasted all of 3 laps for me  lol.

Ken and I both got the jump on Hristo at the start and I was palying it careful on cold tyres on my FIRST EVER RACE IN A 67 BRABHAM!!

with 2 laps out of the way and some grip in the rubbery stuff I was managing to prevent Hristo just blasting past me like I was not there ( that, I knew ,would come later!!).

Then Ken managed a graceful spin in front of me and through no fault of his, managed to park very neatly exactly where my locked up and tyre smoking Brabham wanted to go  Angry.
I managed to scrub off enough speed so that we merely bumped nose cones ...and I though I had survived that for ooo, about 0.5secs when Hristo added his weight to the argument from behind. The result was one inverted Brabham......mine  Shocked/.

Hristo did try to use the cow-catcher on the front of his Cooper to try and knock me back on my wheels ( Thanks Hristo Grin Grin) but he was losing eons of time in his attempts, so I quit and allowed the race to continue.

For the first time ever I actually felt that the Brabham just might be a good car Undecided...guess I will have to wait for another day to confirm that suspicion.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2009, 10:40:14 PM +0000 »

My remark wasn't about pitstops, but record times listed above. Average speeds are wrong in those.
Ahh, sorry my mistake.  I think that is something for Giz to have a look at.  It must be down to the track length in the SRou database, not something I can do anything about.
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2009, 11:23:28 PM +0000 »

Finally, a finish at a Div 1 race  Grin. Although I finished a lap down, 3rd is more than I could have hoped for and with Dave finishing 4th, this was the best combined result so far for Reed Racing in the Div 1 championship.

Quali was uneventful, apart from a spin at Paddock Hill, and I managed 4th on the grid. When the race began I made an awful start and Phil managed to get past me with ease. We then went side by side past Druids and I had the inside line for the next corner which allowed me to regain 4th. The first three shot away and I lost sight of them after a couple of laps. A few laps later I noticed they all had a coming together and that allowed me into 2nd, as Ken had recovered in time.

I procceded to become a nuisance to Phil as he was quicker than me in the Ferrari but thanks to my wide BRM I held second for a while. When Phil pulled into the pits, I noticed Ken had pulled off the the left of the track. I was leading the race at this point, was it all too good to be true?

Alas it was as Hristo, recovering from the earlier incident, outbraked me easily into Druids and continued to drive away at around 3-5 seconds a lap faster than I was managing. I then had a spin at Westfield and was lucky not to hit a the trees either side. A few laps later, Ken, from what looked like retirement, recovered and overtook me a few laps later. I was puzzled, but it turns out that Ken's steering wheel was to blame in his off track moment.

The last 10 or so laps were relatively calm and 3rd place was a great result all round. My lap times were rather inconsistent, but a finish is a finish and that was enough for me.
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2009, 02:08:11 AM +0000 »

I really like this track. I wouldn't mind if we run it more than once in a championship. Qualifying was a bit different than I expected with Ken going very fast, so much that I had to do a final minutes run on minimum amount of fuel and risk everywhere, but it worked.
I don't know what happened at the start, as soon as I released my clutch button the car just died. It's not like I had too tall 1st gear or something, so I'm not sure, it might've been that bump in the road there. I was lucky to lose just 2 positions and so set off to chase Ken and Clive.
Brabham fits the track well and they were going at a very good pace so I just thought pitstops would give me the needed advantage, but at the same time it appeared Ken could open up a lead on Clive by then. That became irrelevant as Ken bottomed out on the backstraight and spun slowly in the middle of the track. I saw it early enough and started braking but it felt like the car would spin if I tried to change my direction, so I just kept braking as Clive was doing the same infront.
Sadly that wasn't enough - we made contact and he got flipped upside down while I just spun around. I tried my best to flip him back up and I think it would've worked eventually but he gave up and quit.  Angry
Sorry, Clive, thinking about it the contact could've been avoided even if I had spun as a result, but next time let me flip you back over, lol.  Grin
So I set off to chase the whole pack that now stood between myself and 1st place and it was quite enjoyable as the handling of the car improved over the next few laps and allowed me to really go for it. Obviously the gaps were big and it took many laps to catch up people but as some were making mistakes it helped me alot. I was expecting a battle with Ken but he must've gone off somewhere as I never saw him again. My pitstop went just fine and now I only had to make it to the finish, but near the end I went too fast into T4 and spun around, then had another off at T1 on the next lap. Luckily no damage or anything, so I was able to continue and take the chequered flag.
Fun race, despite the low turn out.
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