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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2009, 07:25:51 PM +0000 » |
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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2009, 07:47:01 PM +0000 » |
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Slightly OT Steve, try a soft front hard rear type setup at valencia in the E-Type, then try the setup I've uploaded to the SROU online folder, see if you find any difference.
Yes, will do soon, hopefully will improve my understanding of P&G setups.
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2009, 09:12:28 PM +0000 » |
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arrrgh you filmed my spin but also my fight with Tinman hehe, little bump at the end but he still made it
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2009, 08:10:20 AM +0000 » |
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Is the server set for this? I'd like to try some laps tonight. TT
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Mark J
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2009, 08:38:31 AM +0000 » |
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Dont know whether this is a big issue or not (probably not) but found this on the P&G Tr4 thread:-
"While we are at it, the parameters in the *.car files also need the following change to make the fuel gauges read correctly
FuelVolumeRange=(0.0, 74.0, 210.0, 690.0)
The existing parameters refer to the GTL model which used Fuel Pressure rather than Fuel Volume "
We would all have to edit that line i think, including the server, otherwise you would get 'possible cheat' messages. Probably best to leave it alone and just realise your gauge is not necessarily correct. Rely on the garage screen instead.
Will try and join you on the server later, let me know what time roughly.
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pribeiro
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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2009, 09:21:04 AM +0000 » |
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We would all have to edit that line i think, including the server, otherwise you would get 'possible cheat' messages. Probably best to leave it alone and just realise your gauge is not necessarily correct. Rely on the garage screen instead.
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2009, 09:35:33 AM +0000 » |
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Thanks Ossie, they are cool.
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picnic
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2009, 10:39:19 AM +0000 » |
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Is the server set for this? I'd like to try some laps tonight. Yes it is, no one had updated the status above.
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2009, 11:57:07 AM +0000 » |
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Is the server set for this? I'd like to try some laps tonight. Yes it is, no one had updated the status above. Thanks, Pete.
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Mark J
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2009, 02:46:18 PM +0000 » |
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By the way, you guys do know that we are not supposed to select the soft and hard wets for these P&G cars in the wet? They are still strictly modern GT tyres and therefore a cheat ! If you read the P&G tyre manual it tells you not to select them. You must pick the normal vintage tyre compound as they used the same tyres in wet or dry in those days, just changing the compound to suit ie soft, med, hard....when men were men Will the server be able to detect if people are using modern wet tyres? will it show up on the results table? Might be worth adding a comment to that effect in post 1 rules. ps...is it the 2004 GP circuit ? or 03 ?
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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2009, 04:05:31 PM +0000 » |
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for those wondering what tyres are suited to wet from the Dunlop range, its the CR65 970 for Tr4's. Its a soft compound tyre for 'all weather/wet'. I managed a 2:03 with 45mins race fuel onboard using the CR65 tyre. It felt to me like it had too much grip for an early 60's race car in the 50% wet ! Im still confused by what pressures to put in the tyres. The tyre manual says 220-300kpa !!...thats a hell of a window to guess whats right I read that as i should start with 220kpa and see how that affects the load spread across the tyre, adding more as necessary ? The manual also says 'optimum rain tyre temp is 185 F degrees...what the?? I cant get them that low. Can anyone enlighten me/us on these temps and pressures ?
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« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2009, 04:13:28 PM +0000 » |
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ps...is it the 2004 GP circuit ? or 03 ?
Server is running 04 standard GTR2 version (not UKGTR tighter cut checking one) Does the results table reflect the P&G tyre models or is it something that has to be compiled by the admins ?
As far as I know there is no way to police this, there is nothing in the race export to indicate tyre choice or anything available when starting the server to limit that choice.
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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2009, 04:16:06 PM +0000 » |
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As far as I know there is no way to police this, there is nothing in the race export to indicate tyre choice or anything available when starting the server to limit that choice.
i thought the results normally listed tyre manufacturers ie pirelli, michelin etc or is that bit coded into the car files for different car models ? and not compound specific?
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« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2009, 04:38:53 PM +0000 » |
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The tyre car relationship you see in results is due to some magic Dave weaves, there is an interface that asks the importer who looks it up in the car data files. Once set that's it, I can in fact enter any old rubbish I like (and have done in the past )
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« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2009, 05:21:03 PM +0000 » |
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ps...is it the 2004 GP circuit ? or 03 ?
Server is running 04 standard GTR2 version (not UKGTR tighter cut checking one) We will go with vanilla 2004 track, we will try UKGTR versions at a later date. Re tyres, I was surprised to find that the TR4 is quite good fun, and driveable, on drys so maybe enforcing that tyres choice for wet races may be an idea. Think we will leave it open for this race and it will be interesting to measure results. Try both and report back please Will try and join you gents later
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