UKGTL Power and Glory v2 Mod Test - Laguna Seca - Feb 16

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Practice: 20:10 (5 mins)
Qualifying: 20:15 (20 mins)
Race: 20:35 (24 laps=40 mins)

Track: Laguna Seca from here
Weather: Dry

Cars allowed: IROC Porsche RSR 2.8, Porsche 914, Ford GT40 MkI and MkII (no Gulf version).
Time of Day Setting: 12:00
Start: STANDING

Server: [PnG] UKGTL Test
Password: see above

Notes:
(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) You will need to install Power and Glory v2 from here and enable terrain patch.

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No version of Miami Bayfront for GTR2 I'm afraid so we've gone off message for this week. Hope we all know Laguna which should make things easier for all.

Can't wait to muscle, i.e. crash incessantly, the MkII around here 

[pribeiro]

 

[Mark J]

oh lordy lordy...Laguna !  Nice one Ginsters 

an IROC around the corkscrew will be fun !!  and i bet the GT40s will be ace here too. 

[Jos Verstappen]

no gulf?

it will be a porsche race then

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no gulf?
it will be a porsche race then

Is that just a hunch or have you evidence that will be the case? The cars have been picked cause they were are around the same pace when I tested them, quite extensively it has to be said. The MkII and IROC were very even and the 914 lagged behind slightly. However, the 914 is surprisingly good fun. Therefore the Gulf would be too fast.

Of course, I've been wrong before so shout if you gents know them to be totally mismatched  Seeing you are worried, I can personally guarantee that there will be at least one GT40 flying over the corkscrew 

 

[Jos Verstappen]

ah ok, didnt know you already tested them.

[Paul968]

I know you asked me to test before Ian but I was rather busy at the time. I've had a go in the IROC car and got down to 1.38.7. I expect I could go quicker too. I tried both the GT40s again and hated them (again) with a passion - best in the mk 2 was not even in the 40s this time but I really couldn't be bothered to drive such a loathsome car for very many laps. I can't imagine the GT40 getting near the IROC but then again they are not my cup of tea at all. The 914 was fun to push hard but seemed quite a bit slower than the IROC - best was a mid 40 in about 10 laps.

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I do find it tricky to pick the car choices for P & G with complete confidence at the mo. Its much harder to be sure that I'm driving all the cars to a certain level as they handle so differently and it takes me a good 15-20 laps to adjust to each car, a time consuming process. I'm getting there though and until then any times will be gratefully recieved.

For the record I managed mid 39's in both GT40 and IROC and low 40's with 914. With Pauls experience in the 911, and mine of crashing the GT40, the car choice should about work for pace I think. As for close racing, that might be a different matter................
 

[Paul968]

Yes, I appreciate it's tricky. All I would say is, why try to match up such different cars? They struggle to race well together and the GT40s (not gulf) are completely unsuited to twisty narrow tracks. I would have thought a spec race with all gt40s would be better at a fast track.

To add to the debate on which is the quickest at LS, it is worth saying that the IROC car is nowhere near as easy to drive as the RSR. The tyres clearly make a big difference, and the car has a big 'moment' every lap over the kink on the start finish straight, not to mention several other places if you aren't careful. When you get it right though it is great. Down to 1.37.9 now, was on a much better lap and stuffed it last corner, and I get the feeling that a 36 might be possible.

[Mark J]

would have thought the 906 might have been good here too ? 

will try the available cars out tomorrow hopefully and report back with some more mortal laptimes 

From a few online races ive been in, the 914 usually gave the IROCS a good run for their money, but it could be track dependant.

Looking forward to it 

[phspok]

1:46 in 911, spent a dozen laps with 914 but never managed a complete one, Mk2 is the devils work
I can't believe that even a specialist build like that was really that hideous, slides off at 20mph
in corners my 106 would get round on road tyes at 40mph! Mk1 is IMHO more drivable
managed 1:45 in it, with promise to be half decent with setup and praccy
when I find any 911 the easiest thing to get round a twisty track one has to suspend belief!
 

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Yes, I appreciate it's tricky. All I would say is, why try to match up such different cars? They struggle to race well together and the GT40s (not gulf) are completely unsuited to twisty narrow tracks. I would have thought a spec race with all gt40s would be better at a fast track.

I'm just using my experience of what works elsewhere, mainly GTL of course, to find out what combos work/don't work. From last night I also figure this combo will not be brilliant but I want to give it a whirl on a more twisty track to firm up my/our suspicions. I can test these cars till the cows come home but until all try them I can't be sure on what may be a hit, hence these tests. Tis exciting part I think

I know you don't mind one make races. I disagree but I'd prefer to wait until we get to the time were we intend, if ever get that far, to use P & G for league stuff before we all debate that.

The 906 is considerably quicker, around the same pace as the 3.0 RSR, than the other choices here in my hands MJ but I don't expect that will stop you trying both  Do give the 914 a go as I'd be interested to see exactly how fast it could go in the right hands. Also, did I mention its a real laugh

[FullMetalGasket]

I'd have thought the 427 Cobra wouldn't be too far off the Mk1?
On any circuit that doesn't have massive straights I found the two to be very evenly matched in lap times 

Agree that the Mk1 Gulf is just silly fast (straight line at least) and a bit like the GT40 in GTL compared to the rest of the field 

[Paul968]

I know you don't mind one make races. I disagree but I'd prefer to wait until we get to the time were we intend, if ever get that far, to use P & G for league stuff before we all debate that.

I'm not suggesting all races should be spec races, far from it. There are lots of mixes which can race together very well in png. What I don't get is trying to find david vs goliath match-ups where the lap times mean 2 cars are 'equally' matched when in reality one car is pants but so powerful it compensates. I have never been in such a race in the less powerful car where it was anything other than frustrating not being able to make superior pace count. The only time you get to overtake is when the power car makes a mistake. That isn't really racing to me.