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May 17, 2009, 08:38:23 PM +0100 - Oschersleben (GP) - UKGTR Season 9 (GT1/GT2)
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Busi
 Racin24-7
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#960037) GT1 3 +0.538
99.700mph
1 1:20:28.228
84.754mph
50 1:27.133
93.928mph
Michelin  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Lister Storm (#860001) GT1 5 +0.802
99.381mph
2 +22.068
84.368mph
50 1:26.977
94.096mph
Michelin  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Lister Storm (#860001) GT1 13 +4.904
94.665mph
3 +37.091
84.107mph
50 1:28.694
92.274mph
Michelin  
Gazza49er
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ford GT (#30000) GT1 6 +1.121
98.997mph
4 +1L
82.372mph
49 1:27.204
93.851mph
Michelin  
Josè Arrogantio
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4002) GT1 4 +0.605
99.619mph
5 (+6) +6.529
82.261mph
49 1:25.804
95.382mph
Michelin  
lazlow
 Team Oldie Racing
Chevrolet Corvette C6-R (#120014) GT1 8 +1.625
98.397mph
6 +24.001
81.968mph
49 1:28.298
92.688mph
Michelin  
H@L9000
 Team Pseudo Racing
Chevrolet Corvette C6-R (#20000) GT1 9 +1.975
97.985mph
7 +2L
80.907mph
48 1:28.265
92.723mph
Michelin  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Lamborghini Gallardo (#80000) GT2 12 +4.422
95.196mph
8 +35.094
80.327mph
48 1:30.142
90.792mph
Michelin  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Ferrari 430 (#110014) GT2 17 +7.779
91.618mph
9 +3L
79.362mph
47 1:34.237
86.847mph
Michelin  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Ferrari 360 GTC (#970001) GT2 18 +9.148
90.236mph
10 +6L
74.495mph
44 1:34.084
86.988mph
Pirelli  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Ferrari 430 (#110014) GT2 15 +6.877
92.553mph
11 +27.613
74.072mph
44 1:34.431
86.668mph
Michelin  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Ford GT (#30000) GT1 7 +1.529
98.511mph
12 +19L 31 1:26.985
94.087mph
unknown
Michelin  
JPS
 Legends Racing
Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (#800008) GT2 13 +22L 28 1:34.210
86.872mph
unknown
Michelin  
JonM_uk
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#980001) GT1 2 +0.381
99.891mph
14 +26L 24 1:25.819
95.366mph
unknown
Michelin  
Joss
 Team Shark
Lister Storm (#860001) GT1 1 1:21.550
100.358mph
15 +32L 18 1:25.053
96.225mph
suspension
Michelin  
Mcfids
 Team Pseudo Racing
Chevrolet Corvette C6-R (#20000) GT1 11 +3.447
96.288mph
16 +36L 14 1:31.425
89.518mph
unknown
Michelin  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#4001) GT1 16 +6.952
92.475mph
17 +41L 9 1:36.961
84.407mph
unknown
Michelin  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (#800008) GT2 14 +5.538
93.976mph
18 +47L 3 1:42.723
79.672mph
unknown
Michelin  
Jure
 Racin24-7
Ford GT (#30000) GT1 10 +2.423
97.462mph
+50L 0 ---
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DQ
Michelin  

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I don't like having to moderate team mates but since no other team has moderated any UKGTR2 race since last September (!) here goes..

Jeffrey Ruskus has lapped Jose into turn three. Further on in the lap both lap a Team Oldie car and Jose misjudges Jeff's speed into the first part of the chicane causing him to leave the track.

The traffic, time and weather are slight mitigating factors but this appears a straightforward rear end shunt and I shall apply the prescribed penalty as it involves a lapped driver and not two fighting for position.

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« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2009, 10:25:24 PM +0100 »

Great race.

Couldn't really get a great lap in in qually as I couldn't tame the Lister in the damp Grin

I lost a lot in the first 2 laps ahead but gained after that. Both guys infront went off and gave me 3rd (IIRC). Had nice side by side action with TT for 3 corners Cheesy.
After that it started to rain harder and I went in for hard wets, which were horrible so few laps later I went in for soft wets which were still horrible.

I was hoping for Busi to do another stop, but he didn't Wink. Was sloooowly catching Simon and couldn't get past till he tried the grass his brother tried millions of times Wink

Grats Busi, solid race Cheesy
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« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2009, 10:26:19 PM +0100 »

No racing to speak of there. A real test of mind over matter though. Kinda fell into my lap and just ground my way to end without seeing a soul.  

Really not convinced the real world weather added to the racing there. I'm on my hols right now so feel free to shoot me down Smiley Cya all in a couple of weeks.

Congrats to Busi and all the brave finishers there Smiley

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« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2009, 10:29:10 PM +0100 »

First flying lap tried to avoid a rejoining GT1 car that was about to sideswipe me in the fast corner complex, made my own car unsettled and as i fought to control it, got a mighty thump up the jacksey by Legsy who had nowhere to go.

Sorry guys, I believe that was my fault. I attempted a stupid move on Lazlow and went straight off. Then I saw a few GT2s go off around me and realised that I was doing a bad rejoin.  Sad Sorry. I probably deserve for that incident to be reported. I definitely should have waited for the entire field to pass. It would have been much safer.

Immensely hard race. Had real trouble spotting my chosen brake markers at times. I was on completely the wrong tyre for a while as well forcing me to pit a second time. I forgot to plug my desk fan in as well, totally the wrong race to do that:(

Warning to GTR2 XD version 2 users.!! - I think that it gave me different tyres to the ones that I had chosen. I can not be completely 100% sure. Did anyone else have this problem?

I am glad to have finished, great atmosphere in the dark and a real challenge. I loved it. Smiley

Well done podiums.
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« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2009, 10:31:47 PM +0100 »

Warning to GTR2 XD version 2 users.!! - I think that it gave me different tyres to the ones that I had chosen. I can not be completely 100% sure. Did anyone else have this problem?

I switched from hard wets to sof wets and they were exactly the same temps, so it still felt like hard wets Wink
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« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2009, 10:39:22 PM +0100 »

I cocked that right up. Great start to the race, but pitted with someone else in my garage, another lap on slicks had my splitter off, then just the wrong choice of tyres. Then finished my race with a crash in the pitlane ala Lewis Hamilton & David Coulthard.

Congrats on the finishers for getting to the end of a very tough race  Cool
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« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2009, 10:47:11 PM +0100 »

Well... Shocked
Started on Soft Slicks and was going well before I got totally sideways and was collected by Busi.
Pitted for Hard Wets when the rain became bad and then again for Soft Wets when it became worse.
Spent the second half of the race splashing around on the grass trying to see where the track was.  Roll Eyes

Had good pace in the dry with really stiff ARBs and should have probably softened them a bit more for the wet.  Huh

Sorry to Ruskus (I think) for collecting the back of your Lister, I totally missed my braking point.  Embarrassed

Congrats to podiums and the rest of the finishers.
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« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2009, 10:47:37 PM +0100 »

Warning to GTR2 XD version 2 users.!! - I think that it gave me different tyres to the ones that I had chosen. I can not be completely 100% sure. Did anyone else have this problem?

I selected hard wets using it and got them. Always double check the board before accepting it!

Absolutely terrible race from me. I'd been disco'd twice from an iRacing event directly before so I bounced the router yet again and fully expected to get dropped at some point.

Car felt okay on soft slicks during qualifying so I started on them. Were fine for the first few laps but then it started raining harder and I'd called for a stop to switch to hard wets when it stopped raining, so I cancelled that and stayed out. Then it started raining again and after a few more laps I had no tyre temperature at all and had to switch. Chose hard wets hoping for it to clear up again, and filled the tank.

Came back out but it just rained harder and harder and soon I had no tyre temperature again and couldn't keep the car on the track. Stopped again for soft wets which were okay for a while but eventually as the track flooded, the 360's gentle tyre wear, normally a virtue, became a curse as once again I found myself with no tyre temperature, and this time no softer compound to go to. I must've gone off over a dozen times, mostly without hitting anything, but finally my luck ran out and I had a big off between the last two corners, and not only tagged the barrier but found myself in the pit entry.

Had no choice but to drive through the pits and could only hope that the damage wasn't sufficient to need repairs. Came out and the front was definitely not good but I had nearly 20 seconds in hand over 4th in class and just about managed to crawl round the last few laps for a totally undeserved GT2 podium place.

I think maybe we need to exclude the worst rain from the weather generation. When it's coming down so hard that not even soft wets work it's too much.
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« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2009, 10:56:17 PM +0100 »

Started on Soft Slicks and was going well before I got totally sideways and was collected by Busi.

Yup, sorry mate couldn't do anything to avoid that one Sad could only wait for you after the incident
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« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2009, 11:01:35 PM +0100 »

I think maybe we need to exclude the worst rain from the weather generation. When it's coming down so hard that not even soft wets work it's too much.
In the real world the Safety Car would defiantly have come out (right on the racing line and taken out the leader Grin)

Yup, sorry mate couldn't do anything to avoid that one Sad could only wait for you after the incident
No problem, probably my fault for being so sideways.
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« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2009, 11:16:48 PM +0100 »

Wasn't ready to race tonight & it showed (didn't even know it was a night race). The three CTD's in praci/qually didn't help me find my rhythm either  Roll Eyes
Took me till my final lap of qually (finally with soft slicks) to get ahead of Team mate Blunder, but MJ & SBG were still comfortably ahead of the grid.

Gambled on hard wets for the start. It seemed to be raining harder on the grid then it had been in qually & according to the weather forecast it was likely to be quite changeable (so it's either going to get very wet or very dry). But in the end it mattered not.
Hal rejoined the track as MJ was coming past him & as MJ swerved into my path... nothing I could do. Off track & on the grass. Then as I rejoined, I think MJ lost control on the grass himself (easily done mate) & nudged me from behind & Hal may have got held up in that too  Undecided
Then was just missed by MJ when I ran wide & he tried to come through... sadly for him he followed through to the wall I think.

The the rain got heavy & my hard wets were rubbish, no heat & no grip. So I'd gained nothing by gambling on them. Angry

From there to the end of the "race", it was just a case of taking it in turns to go off at the braking zones (despite now having soft wets that were also running cold). That's not racing, that's surviving Sad.

Dave I would fully support removing 100% rain as an option.
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« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2009, 11:41:43 PM +0100 »

Replay and provisional results posted

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« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2009, 11:44:48 PM +0100 »

& Hal may have got held up in that too  Undecided

No problem mate. I was not going to pull away until all cars were safely past me after that. Due to the chaos that I caused a corner earlier, so the time I lost was mainly my doing. Seemed like karma giving me immediate pay back anyway.  Grin

It was just part of a chain of events that I caused anyway. Sorry again guys. Embarrassed
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« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2009, 12:16:11 AM +0100 »

After watching the replay I can see that I was indeed about to make a move that would have taken out MJ but, I turned back away from the track before rejoining.

I can also see that MJ had no way of knowing that I would have turned back away from the track. He had to react before I turned away again.

My rejoin was not well telegraphed enough. Also as my race was already not going so well, I needed to be more careful not to effect the GT2 race.

Sorry to MJ and Legzy. Embarrassed
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« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2009, 05:05:16 AM +0100 »

Warning to GTR2 XD version 2 users.!! - I think that it gave me different tyres to the ones that I had chosen. I can not be completely 100% sure. Did anyone else have this problem?

There definitely seems to be some oddities with it. Obviously bugs. For example I did a race today in another league and as I was flipping through the tire choices I was presented with: Soft Slicks, Intermediates, Hard Slicks, Intermediates, Hard Wets, 6.

1st of all I thought they were all supposed to show up as numbers. Now why Intermediates was in place of medium slicks I can only assume was because I had auto tire selection on so for the damp track at the start it was on intermediates I guess. However I did not try selecting that Intermediate selection and seeing if it would have medium's on the board.

As Dave already mentioned, always double check your choices on the board anyways.  Smiley

Edit: I always miss the wet weather races...that's not fair.  no
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« Reply #44 on: May 18, 2009, 07:29:39 AM +0100 »

I quit at about half as the fun of driving went outta window.  Sad

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Dave I would fully support removing 100% rain as an option.

I can agree with that. The most fun of dynamic weather for me is the track getting wet or getting dry. Would be ok with stable rain, but not flooded - not for more than a few minutes, anyway. Then getting dry again. GT1s + flooded + Oschersleben = 

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