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Author Topic: UKPnG Clubmans - Weather and Pitting Test - Oulton Park (GP 1954-72) - Jun 2  (Read 13684 times)
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« Reply #75 on: June 03, 2009, 12:24:41 PM +0100 »

Very NICE race guy! I can only say that! I enjoyed it a lot! Really good fighting with someone of you in first race laps, even if i made a lot of Mistakes... At the start (really don't know why...), I decided to cut off my gas pedal, remembering of the starting procedure you use in GTR2...what a idiot...Anyway I made a great comeback in the first 7 laps, from 16th to 6th, then i started to make a lot of mistakes, and on lap 17th i hit the tyres after the hairpin bend, and when i arrived in the box for my pit, i saw that i should have to wait 100 sec. to repair my suspention...I thought it would be really too much...
Great fair play by all players, in a so close race! I want to excuse with [poodle] keith but i totally loose control of my car Sad, and with Mike Cook for braking after the limit, but it was the first lap that cartel of 100 meters to the corner was removed by someone, and i loose totally my braking reference...
Many Congrats to TrueTom, winner starting from the 17th position...what a GREAT race man! And congrats to all the Podium racers!
NICE ONE GUYS! I'm already waiting for the next! CU clap clap   
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« Reply #76 on: June 03, 2009, 01:06:59 PM +0100 »

This is one of the more challenging tracks, so more important to me then your lap-times tomorrow are:
1) Making sure people are happy driving in wet conditions for the season ahead?
2) Getting an idea of the impact of the wet on 'clubmans' racing?
3) People get another practice at the P&G pitting technique.
4) Most importantly, that people enjoy it! Wink
1) Sounds like people are happy to see a bit of wet sometimes.
2) The wet has had an influence, hopefully I can use that info.
3) Sounds like most people had a better pitting experience then last time, other then a bit of queuing (check your 'pit request' buttons).
4) Seems that most people had fun last night, mission accomplished.  Grin


I certainly enjoyed it, I remember saying on Teamspeak at about the halfway stage that "it's all action this & I've not had two seconds to breath!"
No worries & sorry to anybody that I traded paint with, it's all good & it was probably about as tricky a race as we'll encounter this season (surely!  Wink).

P&G will return on Tuesday 16th June, with our first ever SROUK P&G league race. Details to follow very soon.

While I hope to see most of you for the 'GTL Quadruple Mod car test' tomorrow night.
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« Reply #77 on: June 03, 2009, 01:29:03 PM +0100 »

Not one of my finest hours but all I deserved not managing to fit any praccy in!

Huge respect to the top three, great seeing Jim (congrats on promotion Smiley) and TT so close on the final lap - obviously a great result too for our new boy PR showing us how it's done in the Vette, but well done anyone who brought it home in one piece, that was a real challenge in the wet but great fun.

A rollercoaster ride of some half decent pace marred by cock-ups and overdriving for me, 11th on the grid and up to 6th'ish by end of first lap....then down to 17th after various incidents, some my fault and others...my fault also Smiley Quite surprised I finished where I did, think the pit stop strategy helped more than my driving!

Too many battles to mention but SamB deserves a thumbs up for some lovely sideways action through Druids, great stuff. Unlucky Martin, a great drive (good move on me too ya git) and another one starting a love affair with the Vette by the sound of things Wink

Spot on Legz, thanks once again. Loved the changeable conditions - might possibly be better at some tracks that aren't quite as tricky already but I'm always open to a challenge so I'd happily run it again.

cue....'i told you so' thoughts in my head once more  Wink  i dont generally bang on about something on here for no reason you know,  Grin even if it looks like i do  Wink

And THAT my good man is why you sometimes get a rough ride lol

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« Reply #78 on: June 03, 2009, 06:51:14 PM +0100 »

Ta for the compliments Keith, was good to have some tussles there.
I had a similar prob with downshifting. I flooded the switch on the wheel with WD40
and gave it some furious waggle. Not happened since.

Yep, I sort of understand PR. I just  keep forgetting this is GTR2 based. not GTL
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« Reply #79 on: June 03, 2009, 07:43:21 PM +0100 »

Great to hear that a season is planned with this mod. Can't wait Smiley
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« Reply #80 on: June 03, 2009, 07:57:26 PM +0100 »

have you guys managed to bracket down the various cars available yet from the info gleaned so far ?  ie comparable pace groupings.
No doubt a tough job. Undecided

Though generally it looks like we've all had someone to race in the rounds so far  Smiley
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« Reply #81 on: June 03, 2009, 08:25:39 PM +0100 »

have you guys managed to bracket down the various cars available yet from the info gleaned so far ?  ie comparable pace groupings.
No doubt a tough job. Undecided
I hope so MJ... but it's our 1st season in charge, on top of being the 1st time we've attempted a 'Clubman's' approach... so I'm sure a mistake or two will no doubt be waiting for us at some point Grin. We could do test races for ever to perfect it, but I think we're close enough to get going with some proper racing. I'm sure if any small tweaks are required, we can count on you guys help & support if (when) we need it!

We'll do our best to see that people continue to enjoy Historic racing if nothing else.

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« Reply #82 on: June 08, 2009, 12:00:46 PM +0100 »

Lapchart Here
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« Reply #83 on: June 08, 2009, 12:35:59 PM +0100 »

As a result of their performances at Oulton & preceding races, the following promotions & relegation's will be reflected at the next race:

Congratulations to the Drivers who've earned Promotion:
TrueTom to Group One Drivers
Lazlow to Group Two Drivers
57Goldtop to Group Three Drivers

Commiserations to the Drivers who've been Relegated: (you get a faster car next time Smiley)
None this week.

Welcome to the New Drivers & their New Group:
Picnic to Group Three Drivers
Jimmer to Group Four Drivers

Please do PM me if you think I've put you in the wrong group.
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« Reply #84 on: June 08, 2009, 01:32:50 PM +0100 »

So, in the races before the Championship begins I will cleverly stay in the mid-field. Wink You won't move the drivers during the official League, will you?  Tongue
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« Reply #85 on: June 08, 2009, 02:17:34 PM +0100 »

So, in the races before the Championship begins I will cleverly stay in the mid-field. Wink
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You won't move the drivers during the official League, will you?  Tongue
There will be a small amount of promotion/relegation (& obviously late joiners) during the season. There would be little point in myself for example, being in the wrong drivers group & blasting away all opposition every race (or being lapped five times because my car's not quick enough to give me the clubmans level playing field).

I don't want at this point to make 'set in stone' rules, about the criteria of getting promoted/relegated... Hopefully, people will trust your friendly 'Historic Co-directors', to be fair & make the best decisions we can. I'm always only a PM away from discussing peoples own promotions etc.


If you're interested on the thought process on this weeks promotions etc (I won't be going into detail every-time):

Truetom, Lazlow & Madd-Rip were considerably faster then all the other drivers both on individual laps & consistently.
Truetom & Lazlow promoted up one group level.
Madd-Rip already in the top group, but his car (The Weslake Falcon) turned out to be too fast for the chassis group it was part of at Oulton (this was confirmed by the other drivers of that car also). That car will get 'special' attention, with regards which chassis group it appears next time.
57Goldtop did not complete the race, but he did more then enough while he was driving (including qualification) to earn promotion to the Group Three drivers.
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« Reply #86 on: June 08, 2009, 07:21:00 PM +0100 »

I'm looking forward to the challenge....Bring It On!!!! Cool
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« Reply #87 on: June 09, 2009, 12:23:24 PM +0100 »

P&G will return on Tuesday 16th June, with our first ever SROUK P&G league race. Details to follow very soon.

NNNOOOooooooo!!!!!!!!!

Why a Tuesday?  :'(
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« Reply #88 on: June 09, 2009, 01:04:43 PM +0100 »

P&G will return on Tuesday 16th June, with our first ever SROUK P&G league race. Details to follow very soon.
NNNOOOooooooo!!!!!!!!!
Why a Tuesday?  :'(
The main reasons (IIRC):
UKGTR2's Tuesday league grid sizes had been reducing over a period of time.
UKGTL had been enjoying full grids during the league season.
UKPnG was proving to have its own solid following that was somewhat a mix of drivers (meaning not just GTL drivers).
It meant that more UKPnG races could be scheduled (i.e. fortnightly).
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