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  • Endurance D2 S1R5 - Donington: September 18, 2005
September 18, 2005, 09:36:28 PM +0100 - Donington Park (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Endurance Season 1 Division 2
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 1 1:27.817
101.585mph
1 59:53.162
94.344mph
38 1:29.300
99.898mph
Michelin  
Blaz
 G spot
Lister Storm GT1 2 +0.400
101.124mph
2 +8.440
94.123mph
38 1:29.167
100.047mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Lister Storm GT1 3 +0.684
100.800mph
3 +43.239
93.222mph
38 1:30.119
98.990mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Ze insane Penguins
SEAT Toledo GT G2 7 +5.226
95.879mph
4 +1L
91.649mph
37 1:33.896
95.008mph
Dunlop  
aajay_uk
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 6 +2.930
98.305mph
5 +26.658
90.975mph
37 1:31.385
97.619mph
Michelin  
[ZiP]Tyf
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 9 +6.411
94.673mph
6 +2L
88.135mph
36 1:34.949
93.955mph
Pirelli  
Zacari
 
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 5 +2.422
98.858mph
7 +5.197
88.010mph
36 1:29.698
99.455mph
Pirelli  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
BMW Z3M G3 13 +9.493
91.675mph
8 +3L
86.778mph
35 1:39.048
90.066mph
Dunlop  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Gillet Vertigo Streiff NGT 16 +9.978
91.220mph
9 +15.420
86.408mph
35 1:38.022
91.009mph
Dunlop  
Jamera
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 10 +7.474
93.617mph
10 +25.481
86.168mph
35 1:36.593
92.355mph
Pirelli  
Wilier
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 12 +8.221
92.889mph
11 +4L
83.789mph
34 1:37.637
91.368mph
Dunlop  
as-here
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 11 +7.496
93.596mph
12 +7L
76.661mph
31 1:36.754
92.202mph
Dunlop  
maverick
 mad crow
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 15 +9.731
91.451mph
13 +13L 25 1:39.665
89.509mph
unknown
Dunlop  
JonM_uk
 Ze insane Penguins
BMW Z3M G3 14 +9.574
91.599mph
14 +20L 18 1:38.809
90.284mph
unknown
Dunlop  
rufbtr
 Speedworx
Lotus Elise G3 19 +16.579
85.452mph
15 +21L 17 1:45.018
84.946mph
unknown
Dunlop  
locutos ukgtr
 DM Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 8 +6.001
95.087mph
16 +24L 14 1:34.347
94.554mph
engine
Pirelli  
silver53
 Ze insane Penguins
Porsche 996 GT2 Bi-turbo NGT 18 +14.748
86.978mph
17 +32L 6 1:40.065
89.151mph
unknown
Pirelli  
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 550 Maranello GT1 4 +1.315
100.086mph
18 +34L 4 1:30.942
98.094mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Don
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW Z3M G3 17 +12.503
88.924mph
19 4 1:44.421
85.432mph
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 751s

Aajay is lapping Maverick as they come to Redgate. Maverick turns in, there is a touch of warp, and then he starts to run wide a little; Aajay sees this as an invitaion to pass and sticks his nose up the inside, but also runs wide a touch and there is contact, Maverick going into the gravel.

Normally this would be a two place penalty, but I'm going to reduce it because Maverick did seem to be letting Aajay through, and it was just a mistake on the latter's part which caused the contact.

  • aajay_ukpenalty — contact with Maverick — 0 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 962s

Coming up to the Foggy Esses, as-here brakes too late and smacks hard into Dave Gymer's right rear quarter, spinning him out across the grass.

as-here reported he was having controller problems. This is absolutely the last occaision I'm going to let such behaviour from anyone off with a warning; if you know you are having problems with your controller, and cannot drive around them (by, for example, braking much more conservatively), you should retire from the race. Just because you're having a bad race doesn't mean you can ruin somebody else's too.

  • as-herewarning — rear ending Dave Gymer


Server replay time: 1631s

Having lapped RufBTR coming through the Craner Curves, Dave Gymer has to brake a little early for the Old Hairpin. Ruf brakes at his usual point, but in the Elise this is much later than Dave's normal braking point, and he runs directly into the back of him, both cars going through the gravel and into the tyre wall.

Because it was during a lapping pass, Ruf would not have known where Dave was going to brake, and as-here was also approaching to lap him, so he couldn't brake too much earlier than normal without risking being collected himself.

  • rufbtrwarning — rear ending Dave Gymer


Server replay time: 2117s

There was a long sequence of events starting at 2117 seconds into the server replay where Dave Gymer in the Vertigo was trying to lap Maverick's 911 GT3-RS.

Maverick was clearly overdriving, going off every few laps, and despite Dave flashing his lights and generally crawling all over the back of him for corner after corner, he refused to allow Dave to lap him, which was always going to be dangerous without some cooperation as the car being lapped was much quicker in a straight line.

GTR provides enough information in the HUD or dashboard display to know whether a car right behind you is racing you for position or not, and there really is no excuse holding a faster driver up like this.

At 2187s Dave bumped Maverick from behind at Coppice, fortunately neither driver suffering a spin, off or damage. At 2380s Dave finally gets past, then at 2516s Maverick tries to unlap himself and promptly falls off the track at the Foggy Esses.

We wish to reiterate that all drivers are expected to try to drive within their limits. If a driver is going off every few laps, they won't enjoy it, and they'll be a danger to everyone else on the track.


Server replay time: 2765s

Greg has momentary wheelspin coming off McLeans, and takes an inside line towards Coppice. Blaz gets a much better exit from McLeans, and has almost cleared Greg when they arrive at Coppice. Blaz sweeps across Greg's nose but he hasn't quite cleared him and there's contact, Blaz going off.

  • Racing incident

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR
G2
1:33.043
95.879mph
Truetom
Qualifying
SEAT Toledo GTSeptember 18, 2005, 09:36:28 PM +0100
UE1D2
GTR
G3
1:37.310
91.675mph
Simon Gymer
Qualifying
BMW Z3MSeptember 18, 2005, 09:36:28 PM +0100
UE1D2
GTR
G3
1:38.809
90.284mph
JonM_uk
Race
BMW Z3MSeptember 18, 2005, 09:36:28 PM +0100
UE1D2
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« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2005, 07:32:54 AM +0100 »

i could not concentrate as I have chicken pox not very nice at 54.bye for now gerald

Eeuuuw. Get well soon and don't give it to us! Tongue Tongue Tongue
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« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2005, 08:07:43 AM +0100 »

Until Zacari's pit stop 6th was looking best for me over 1m up on 7th and some 30s behind Zacari. What happened in your pitstop mate? I ended up passing you twice before you came out of the pits.

I had 2 stops, first one sheduled and I came out only 10s behind SBG who pitted on the same lap, the second was after an off indirectly caused by having to pass an NGT just after the Craner Curves and took over a minute and a half, (lost my front splitter hitting the wall)

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« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2005, 08:23:31 AM +0100 »

pffwww Silver , i know what you are talking about, i had them when i was 33, not nice at all.  :'(

get well soon mate.
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« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2005, 10:01:27 AM +0100 »

I had 2 stops, first one sheduled and I came out only 10s behind SBG who pitted on the same lap, the second was after an off indirectly caused by having to pass an NGT just after the Craner Curves and took over a minute and a half, (lost my front splitter hitting the wall)

That was me that was. You didn't have to pass me there Tongue though several did. Discretion, valour, etc etc. Lots of overdriving in that race which is how I picked up second in class.
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« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2005, 10:20:47 AM +0100 »

lol I'll have to look at the replay but I don't think I had much choice, you pulled over to the right after the old hairpin which basically meant I had to go left and take too tight a line through Starkey's Bridge and I ended up unbalanced braking into McLeans.  Certainly not your fault in any case but I can't see how I could've not passed there.  Lapping cars anywhere in the first half of the lap is horrible at Donni anyway.

Weird really that I've never got on well there in GTR, any other game at Donnington (short or long) it's been one of my favourite tracks.  Looking forward to the longer race at Spa anyway  Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2005, 10:23:24 AM +0100 »

lol I'll have to look at the replay but I don't think I had much choice, you pulled over to the right after the old hairpin which basically meant I had to go left and take too tight a line through Starkey's Bridge and I ended up unbalanced braking into McLeans.

You could've slowed down and not past me at all... Wink
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« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2005, 10:29:18 AM +0100 »

Can't comment until I've seen the replay and my boss is hovering....  Tongue Wink

(i need a more secluded desk!)

I'd like to know what you'd have done if I'd braked and stayed behind you; in my mind when I was driving I had no option but to go past there and I doubt anyone else would've not gone through there in my position.  I'm not even sure I could've slowed down to stay behind you seen as you lifted and there was already a speed difference between us.

Really though you let me through there which I have no problem with, just one of those things really.  (I now know I was racing with faulty pedals anyway so that probably didn't help!)
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« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2005, 05:10:49 PM +0100 »

My first class win! Woohoo!  Cool

Not playing a lot of GTR lately, so tried several different N-GT cars before the race, but turned out I was quickest in 'me ole mucker' the Bi-T. Cheesy
Qualified 2nd in class behind Locutus (but since I just checked and he's 'locutos ukgtr En D1' he should have been in a different car? So I guess I get pole? Smiley) Had a fairly decent setup for the race as well getting close to my qualifying times ( .7 mph less Smiley) which gave me confidence for the race! Cheesy

Tried for a 1 pitstop strategy, but a different one than at Brno, where I was in the pit for ages getting fuel as well. This time I ran with an almost full fuel load (100l lol) and only did a tyre change halfway through the race. Had a couple of hairy moments, didn't we all? Wink Span off when rear tyres were warming up faster than front, total of 3 self induced spins I think. Overtaking was ace on this track, although really hard as well with the Porsche since it's soooooo unstable under braking & cornering, lol Grin
All in all a great race for me and if anyone tells me I should go to the gym or work out etc... I'll put them behind this wheel and let them drive the Bi-T on Donington for 1 hour, loool! Let's see how they talk after that... (They won't be able to for about 10 minutes I think Wink)

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« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2005, 05:51:00 PM +0100 »


Qualified 2nd in class behind Locutus (but since I just checked and he's 'locutos ukgtr En D1' he should have been in a different car? d let them drive the Bi-T on Donington for 1 hour, loool! Let's see how they talk after that... (They won't be able to for about 10 minutes I think Wink)

Good point about div1 drivers competing in div2.  There were a couple of other guys who are driving either gt or ngt in both div1 and 2, is this fair ? I must admit to thinking thats what the G3 champ was for.  To my way of thinking you should be allowed to drive gt or ngt in div1 or div2 and g3 in the other division.  Should the same apply to full time and reserve drivers ? I think so :-)
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« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2005, 06:45:44 PM +0100 »

Good point about div1 drivers competing in div2.  There were a couple of other guys who are driving either gt or ngt in both div1 and 2, is this fair ? I must admit to thinking thats what the G3 champ was for.  To my way of thinking you should be allowed to drive gt or ngt in div1 or div2 and g3 in the other division.  Should the same apply to full time and reserve drivers ? I think so :-)

Firstly, Locutos was a reserve until yesterday. He has now decided he'd like to run full time in D1, which means that in future races he will join D2 in a G3 car.

Reserves are allowed to enter either class in either division in order to keep the numbers in the main classes up. The only reserve driver who is running regularly in both division is Jamera, and he's in NGT which is undersubscribed anyway.
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« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2005, 07:14:16 PM +0100 »

Fair enough, however it wouldnt suprize me to see some of the wosec guys competing on a more regular basis now that league has folded.
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« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2005, 10:15:28 PM +0100 »

Good point about div1 drivers competing in div2.  There were a couple of other guys who are driving either gt or ngt in both div1 and 2, is this fair ? I must admit to thinking thats what the G3 champ was for.  To my way of thinking you should be allowed to drive gt or ngt in div1 or div2 and g3 in the other division.  Should the same apply to full time and reserve drivers ? I think so :-)

Firstly, Locutos was a reserve until yesterday. He has now decided he'd like to run full time in D1, which means that in future races he will join D2 in a G3 car.

Reserves are allowed to enter either class in either division in order to keep the numbers in the main classes up. The only reserve driver who is running regularly in both division is Jamera, and he's in NGT which is undersubscribed anyway.





 I thought that was the agreement for reserve drivers to take a NGT car for that very reason
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« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2005, 10:57:23 PM +0100 »

you were all ok as I kept windows shut. I will not be about for a couple of weeks as sitting is not my fav occupation at pres. Please count me in for latter and let Zip chose a car etc to fit in wih Penguins if they will still have me.gerald
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« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2005, 09:42:32 AM +0100 »

I thought that was the agreement for reserve drivers to take a NGT car for that very reason

Well I didn't want to dictate what reserves took but given the current numbers in each class NGT runners are my preferred choice... Wink
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