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July 14, 2009, 08:43:20 PM +0100 - Lime Rock (no chicane) - UKPnG Version 2 Season 1 Clubmans Groups
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Ford Mustang Gr5 (#6601) P&G Group 5 7 +0.866
83.229mph
1 41:55.777
81.401mph
38 1:05.008
82.899mph
Dunlop  
Josè Arrogantio
 
Lotus Elite (#63039) P&G Group 3 U2L 5 +0.703
83.440mph
2 +5.062
81.237mph
38 1:04.723
83.264mph
Dunlop  
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Lotus Elite (#63022) P&G Group 3 U2L 6 +0.854
83.245mph
3 +16.200
80.880mph
38 1:04.915
83.018mph
Dunlop  
ross.mcw
 Prodigy Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 3 +0.277
83.994mph
4 +18.082
80.820mph
38 1:04.222
83.914mph
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#68061) P&G Group 3 U2L 1 1:03.884
84.358mph
5 +25.197
80.594mph
38 1:04.083
84.096mph
Dunlop  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Mustang Gr5 (#68091) P&G Group 5 13 +1.253
82.735mph
6 +35.367
80.272mph
38 1:05.394
82.410mph
Dunlop  
PippoPelo
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Alfa Romeo 1300 GTA (#69037) P&G Group 2 12 +1.209
82.791mph
7 (+2) +36.902
80.224mph
38 1:05.314
82.511mph
Dunlop  
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Lotus Elite (#63022) P&G Group 3 U2L 10 +1.020
83.032mph
8 +41.185
80.090mph
38 1:05.093
82.791mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Triumph GT4 (#67074) P&G Group 3 O2L 16 +1.521
82.396mph
9 +43.840
80.007mph
38 1:05.940
81.727mph
Dunlop  
API
 
Lotus Elite (#63039) P&G Group 3 U2L 21 +2.240
81.500mph
10 +45.190
79.964mph
38 1:05.844
81.847mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 250GT SWB (#61007) P&G Group 3 O2L 17 +1.561
82.346mph
11 +47.918
79.879mph
38 1:05.621
82.125mph
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IvAlAx
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Lotus Elite (#63039) P&G Group 3 U2L 15 +1.399
82.550mph
12 +54.973
79.660mph
38 1:05.182
82.678mph
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Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Alfa Romeo 1300 GTA (#69037) P&G Group 2 23 +2.291
81.437mph
13 +59.437
79.522mph
38 1:05.911
81.763mph
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icarus17
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FIAT Abarth TC1000 Gr5 (#68057) P&G Group 5 22 +2.276
81.456mph
14 +1L
79.181mph
37 1:06.017
81.632mph
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Mcfids
 Team Pseudo Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#68061) P&G Group 3 U2L 14 +1.389
82.563mph
15 +0.264
79.173mph
37 1:04.927
83.003mph
Dunlop  
(VDA)KING
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Lotus Elite (#61107) P&G Group 3 U2L 18 +1.714
82.154mph
16 +4.558
79.038mph
37 1:05.526
82.244mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Triumph GT4 (#67074) P&G Group 3 O2L 20 +2.148
81.614mph
17 +5.502
79.009mph
37 1:06.268
81.323mph
Dunlop  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 8 +0.875
83.218mph
18 +2L
76.787mph
36 1:05.259
82.580mph
Dunlop  
Tim Robey
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Lotus Cortina (#66011) P&G Group 2 25 +3.125
80.424mph
19 +33.350
75.786mph
36 1:07.452
79.895mph
Dunlop  
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing
Triumph GT4 (#67071) P&G Group 3 O2L 26 +3.437
80.051mph
20 +12L 26 1:07.581
79.743mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
Chevrolet Corvette C2 coupe (#66067) P&G Group 3 O2L 19 +1.954
81.854mph
21 +19L 19 1:06.227
81.373mph
unknown
Goodyear  
Samb
 Reed Racing
FIAT Abarth TC1000 Gr5 (#69041) P&G Group 5 9 +0.983
83.079mph
22 +25L 13 1:06.096
81.535mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Pippomox
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Lotus Elite (#63022) P&G Group 3 U2L 4 +0.697
83.447mph
23 (+1) +32L 6 1:04.841
83.113mph
unknown
Dunlop  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Elan 26R (#64026) P&G Group 3 U2L 2 +0.208
84.084mph
Excluded +0L
81.364mph
38 1:04.365
83.727mph
Dunlop  
lazlow
 Team Oldie Racing
Alfa Romeo 1300 GTA (#69037) P&G Group 2 11 +1.079
82.957mph
+38L 0 ---
---
unknown
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Prodigy Racing
Lotus Elite (#61108) P&G Group 3 U2L 24 +2.588
81.073mph
0 ---
---
DQ
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 1s

Sadly, Bill chose a car that was not available and has to be disqualified.


Server replay time: 127s

Pippomax rear ends Tibs through T1 on lap 1.

All three front runners were in different classes of cars and Bill's pace around T1 takes Tibs by surprise so he may have been going slower than Pippomax expected. Therefore penalty reduced. However, it was lap 1/turn 1 and Pippomax should have taken more time and care to size up the pace of the opposition.

Credit to Pippomax for admitting his mistake and apologising.


Server replay time: 128s

Drivers are closely packed into T1, lap 1 and Ade is sticking to his outside line as Pepz goes around the inside. This is ok until mid corner when Pepz runs a little wide and Ade goes a little to the inside, although Pepz barely touches him it has dire consequences for Ade. Pepz and Ade are unlucky but they really should have been taking more care considering it was lap1/turn1.


Server replay time: 130s

After earlier incident, Tibs is stuck on grass on inside of T1. He sensibly waits but incorrectly attempts to stream into a tightly packed group of cars, VDAKing can not really avoid him. Credit to Tibs for admitting his mistake.


Server replay time: 198s

Tudor hits the rear of APIs Elite into T1 on lap 1, sending him into a spin, collecting the unlucky Legzy and VDAKing.

In mitigation API braked earlier than normal after wisely pulling out of an attempted pass on TT, they were in different classes of cars, it was Tudor who reported himself and he also took a drive through so penalty is reduced to a caution. He will take even more care on lap 1 in future I'm sure.

  • API
  • goldtop (57goldtop)caution — Rear end shunt
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 826s

Ade runs wide and icaraus takes the opportunity to take the racing line for following turn. He is almost completely past but bumps Ades front left with his rear as he completes the move. Ade was clearly giving up the place, only required a little more room and should have been given it.

Luckily no harm was done to either.


Server replay time: 839s

Ade makes an attempt to pass icarus on the fast Uphill turn. He gets at least alongside him at turn entry, all be it on the inside/wrong line. As a safe pass isn't really on, he sensibly decides to back out but icarus takes the normal racing line and gives him very little option but to go on grass.

A real 50/50 this, ade should have perhaps backed out a little earlier and icarus could have given him more room so I see it as a racing incident.


Server replay time: 1124s

(VDA)King is following Ade closely, perhaps too closely, and gives him a bump through final turn. Luckily Ade holds onto it and no damage is done.


Server replay time: 1146s

Ade runs a little wide through T1 and (VDA)King puts his nose inside him in what I can only guess is a passing attempt. Its clear he is not going to get close to getting alongside and therefore, from the replay alone, it has to go down as a rear ender caused by a poor passing attempt. Luckily no damage was done.


Server replay time: 1270s

Tibs gets alongside icarus along main straight and is level, but not in front, into T1 entry, icarus attempts to take his normal line and bumps into Tibs who is already there. Its a close call but its a good passing move for me so the bump is just a racing incident.


Server replay time: 1605s

Tibs rear ends Paul through T1. Tibs has apologised, it was mixed class and, thanks largely to Pauls skills, no real damage was done so penalty reduced.

  • Paul968
  • Tibernius — Rear end shunt — 1 place lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1847s

Tibs almost makes a good pass on Pepz into final turn but just fails to get in front. Pepz turns in, there is some bumping but, thanks largely to Pepzs skills, no real damage is done so just a warning is necessary.

  • PippoPelo ([VDA] Peppe)
  • Tiberniuswarning — Make sure the pass can be completed before committing
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1870s

Tibs again attempts to pass Pepz into T1 but this time he is way to far back and bangs the rear of Pepz. In mitigation, Tibs says Pepz was warping slightly and, although there is no evidence of that in replay, there is no reason to doubt him.


Server replay time: 2086s

Pepz comes up to lap Tim and rear ends him. As Pepz hasn't filed a report, had only just approached Tim and there is no suggestion of Tim opening and then closing a gap for him, the maximum penalty is fully warrented.


Server replay time: 2307s

Ade gets it very slightly sideways through the Uphill turn and Manteous resultantly rear ends him on exit. The slight mistake excuses Manteous a little but he should have avoided the contact.

Credit to Manteous for admitting his mistake by waiting/coming clean in incident report and Ade for accepting his apology.

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GTR2
P&G Group 3 O2L
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82.396mph
Ade
Qualifying
Triumph GT4July 14, 2009, 08:43:20 PM +0100
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GTR2
P&G Group 3 O2L
1:05.621
82.125mph
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Ferrari 250GT SWBJuly 14, 2009, 08:43:20 PM +0100
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« on: June 29, 2009, 10:50:00 AM +0100 »

All members welcome

Practice 1: 20:00 (20 mins)
Qual 2: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (38 laps (=~40 mins)) note: no warmup!


Cars allowed: Jaguar Lightweight, Corvette L72 Coupe, Ferrari 275, Ford Falcon Weslake Heads, Alfa Romeo Volumetrico, Shelby GT350 SCCA, Jaguar E-Type Coupe, Jaguar E Type Roadster, Corvette Z06, Corvette L76 Roadster, Ferrari 250GT (C & B), Mustang ATCC, Falcon Sprint & Mann, BSCC GR5 Mustang, Lotus Elan, Triumph TR4, Mustang TransAM, Healey MK2, Lotus Cortina, Alpine 1300, Alfa GTA (NOTE - I will be removing any cars that "don't fit" from the choices list when I get a chance)

Weather: DRY
Track: Lime Rock Park (no Chicane) (download from here)
Time of Day Setting: 05:00
Start: STANDING
Minimum Pit-stops: None.


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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2009, 10:50:16 AM +0100 »

IMPORTANT
UKPnG Season One will continue to use our 'clubmans' approach, the idea that the faster drivers are in the slower cars, as hopefully it should encourage more close racing.

The cars chosen can be divided into 4 chassis groups:

A
Jaguar Lightweight, Corvette L72 Coupe, Ferrari 275, Ford Falcon Weslake Heads , Alfa Romeo Volumetrico

B
Corvette Z06, Jaguar E-Type Coupe, Shelby GT350 SCCA, Corvette L76 Roadster, Alpine 1300, Falcon Mann, Alfa GTA

C
Mustang ATCC, Jaguar E Type Roadster, Ferrari 250GT 'C', Falcon Sprint, BSCC GR5 Mustang, Mustang TransAM, Lotus Cortina, Abarth(gr5), Alfa Junior

D
Ferrari 250GT 'B', Triumph TR4, Healey MK2, Lotus Elite, Mustang NTK(gr5)


Our "regulars" can be, very roughly divided into Four groups. (If you're name's not listed below & you'd like to race with us, please say Hi on this thread & give us an idea of your pace Smiley

GROUP 1 can only choose from slowest chassis group D
Dan Minton, Madd, Paul 968, Ginsters, PR, Steve Holmes, Jos Verstappen, TrueTom, Jose Arrogantio, Ayrton4_94, Manteos, Pippomax.

GROUP 2  can choose between chassis C and D.
Ade, Oily, [Poodle]Keith, FMG, Watty, phspok, MJ, Mike Cook, Lazlow, Blunder, Legzy, Pepz, Tim Robey, SamB, Psuedo.

GROUP 3 can choose between chassis B, C and D.
DaveShep, Spanner, Tinman, Geoffers, Ross, Phil Gilliland, Tibernius, Picnic, 57Goldtop, Lars Sch.

GROUP 4 can choose between chassis A, B, C and D.
PaulWBird, Alex vV, Wiltshire Tony, LigelC, Sandor Mooijekind, Lorenzo Galluzzi, Bill Thomas, Oilseal, Jimmer.


Hope you all enjoy.
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2009, 01:23:29 AM +0100 »

Here some mine laptimes

Lotus Cortina 1.05.5
Alfa GTA 1.06.5
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2009, 01:31:54 AM +0100 »

I post my first lap times here:

Shelby GT350 SCCA: 1.03.5
Corvette z06: 1.04.8
Cortina Works: 1.06.0

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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2009, 08:31:10 AM +0100 »

These Italians are very keen  Grin

Spirito di Corsa !!  Cool
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2009, 08:44:02 AM +0100 »

Oh, no... No Z06 in my group for this race!  :'(
I was loving driving that!
Must find another tank!  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2009, 11:38:06 AM +0100 »

Oh, no... No Z06 in my group for this race!  :'(
I was loving driving that!
Must find another tank!  Grin
LOL, you'll probably want to try out a Stang or the Vette L76 Roadster then buddy  Grin


Driver Groups updated & some early minimal shuffling of cars done.
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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2009, 12:43:22 PM +0100 »

Martin - do not fear, the L76 should do us nicely Wink
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2009, 12:44:10 PM +0100 »

Yesterday I managed to have some laps with Alfa Romeo Volumetrico getting 1.03.7 quit regularly (car filled up with 60 liters of fuel).
Plan to have some more trials with other cars from different groups tonight.
I'll keep you posted ... Wink
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2009, 12:56:33 PM +0100 »

These Italians are very keen  Grin

Spirito di Corsa !!  Cool

Many Thanks Mark ! In reality Italy is a new country of Mars .... Didn't know that  Cool ?

Apart joking, it's just because all of us really love P&G and use to have practice and practice almost every day Grin

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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2009, 06:01:52 PM +0100 »

Don't know how you guys do it.  I'm retired and this time of the year I really don't seem to have enough time, with gardening, going with my wife to visit places and entertaining visitors.

Collect a grandson and friend on Monday for an indeterminate period - so I'll get even less time to practice.  Only saving grace, is I've raced here before in GTL.

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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2009, 10:12:36 PM +0100 »

my time:
Alfa GTA 1.05.5
cortina 1.06.0
 
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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2009, 11:21:21 PM +0100 »

Early signs are, that if there was going to be a target time, it would be about 1:06.... but there isn't  Kiss Grin

Thanks for the early reconnaissance work chaps  Smiley. Anybody else with some early lap times in the cars you're grouping is likely to let you drive?
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2009, 02:34:25 AM +0100 »

errr, is this in the GTR2 thread instead of the PnG one?.......I am definately confused  Huh laugh
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2009, 10:19:30 AM +0100 »

just noticed this is not scheduled until the 14th...how come? No tuesday race this week coming then?  Sad
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