UKGPL Season 17 (2009) Amateurs Trophy - Monza (GP 1955-71) - Jul 7

[miner2049er]

I haven't seen this race replay (Monza) yet, but I was on the receiving end at Spa, like Hristo was here by the sounds of things.

I haven't watched it yet either Jethro so I won't comment.

No offense but it might be best if you didn't until you had watched it either.

[fpolicardi]

Thanks so much, Fulvio! Your reckless driving ended any small chances I had for challenging JR for the title. You sure know how to approach 1 hour races, risking so much on lap 1... 

Now that is another day, can you gently explain to all what you mean for my reckless driving?

Poor Geoff is still trying to get out his Lotus from the bushes

Ciao

You really didn't realize what you were doing if you are asking this. Let me tell you first of all, I eased off twice before and through Lesmo 1 so I don't put you at risk, then as you had a slower exit I took the inside line and passed you into Lesmo 2. But you went for the outside line and drove millimeters from my left wheels, a slight warp there would've ended it all. As lucky as we were to not have such, you kept pushing and clipped my rear on the exit, spinning me in the bushes and it was all over for me. The car got damaged both in that and in the following incidents with the unfortunate driver unable to avoid.

I call reckless someone who risks so much so early on in the race. It was lap 1, but you attacked as if the battle was for 1st on the last lap of the race. Fulvio, normally you drive fairly and we had some very good battles, but you were a bit too hot headed in this particular case. It's a shame to end the championship battle because of lack of patience.

Grats to John, well deserved Amateurs Champion! You sure have improved a lot, JR. 

LOL Hristo, till yesterday I thought that who attack was who try a pass.

Did you accuse me of reckless driving only cause I didn't open a wide door with a red carpet to let you pass at Lesmo2? Really I didn't expect you would have tried a pass there when Pod and me lifted a bit under yellow to not collect Geoff after his spun at Lesmo1. You ignored the yellow and when I realised you were beside me at Lesmo2 turn in point I did my best to not close the door, if I had lifted I would have surely spun. Infact we made the turn side by side but on exit you slightly came towards me instead to keep inside and we tangled tires spinning both, we were still side by side at the moment. Both of us ended in the right direction but you bogged your engine just in front of me and I touched you (absolutely unfortunate) so I restarted first. Till there nothing was compromised, as for mine and server report replays both of us didn't got any damage till there. The race was long and I managed to catch the leaders and even win, and so could have done you if you would have look at the mirrors before cut the track in front of Geoff.

Please guys let me know if I'm completely out of view on this one.
Ciao

I was attacking? Nonsense! You had a slow exit from Lesmo 1 (what yellow?!, definitely not in my view) and so I took the inside or I'd have had to hit the brakes behind you. You didn't open any door, I was already in front of you on the entry to Lesmo 2 and I stayed in front until the exit. You briefly lined up near the apex, almost hitting me on the outside (really left no additional space at all on the inside). If I wasn't leading how do you explain that you clipped my rear, spinning me in the bushes? I guess you didn't think that through.

Watch the replay if you don't believe me. I left you enough room on the exit and especially considering I was in front at that point, you could've merely lifted up a bit and use the tow to pass me on the next straight, instead of putting us both at risk. It would have been no problem whatsoever with your BT11 vs. my BT7...

Hristo I have enough to speak with my 19 years old son that never admit to be wrong and thinks that he has all the privileges and any obligation to continue this discussion.
I give you all the reasons but at least have the decency to apologize with Geoff...

[MikeBeattie]

When will the Server replay be available?

[fpolicardi]

When will the Server replay be available?

Mike is yet available at the usual place
http://www.jamesonline.net/ukgpl/

[Turkey Machine]

I haven't seen this race replay (Monza) yet, but I was on the receiving end at Spa, like Hristo was here by the sounds of things.

I haven't watched it yet either Jethro so I won't comment.

No offense but it might be best if you didn't until you had watched it either.

Unfortunately, til I get GPL installed again on another PC, I'm a bit stuck to watch said replay!

[MikeBeattie]

OK thanks to Fulvio's link above to the server I think that you should all go and look at the server replay when viewed from the various in-car shots before commenting on this crash or linking it to any other crash.

It's not my job to moderate (Thank Heavens) nor to get involved in somebody else's incident discussions, but I would say before you make a remark, put yourself in the in-car of the other driver and see what he can see. Then look at the rules we race under in UKGPL and then apply them.

In racing we all have to make split second decisions, which are sometimes good and sometimes not so good.

Where we don't have to make split second decisions is posting here on this board.

The old addage of Count to 10 before you reply is one worth sticking to.

[Hristo Itchov]

Hristo I have enough to speak with my 19 years old son that never admit to be wrong and thinks that he has all the privileges and any obligation to continue this discussion.
I give you all the reasons but at least have the decency to apologize with Geoff...

Fulvio, to me you're simply quitting a discussion that you can't win and turning to such silly attacks on a personal level. Let's keep it focused on racing, shall we? If you can't defend your case, just don't say anything.

-=Hristo=-

P.S. The only thing I did wrong was turning left after the incident and going into the path of Geoff (I assume), but as I stated above, the car was damaged and it wasn't intentional. And don't speak to me of excuses when you didn't offer a single one for what happened. Shows clearly who is it that doesn't admit to have done anything wrong. 

[miner2049er]

I don't think we need another public argument in the forums, so unless somebody wants to submit the incident for moderation by ALL moderators I suggest we drop it and move on.