UKPnG Season 1 Clubmans - Interlagos - Jul 28

[Tibernius]

I'm a fair bit faster in the IROC as well.

IROC: 1:53.6-8s
Cobra 427: 1:55-1:57s (when I could stop it from spinning, over race distance I'd have no chance)
289 Coupe: 1:59s
Elan: 1:59s

[Legzy]

I was shocked to be putting the IROC down there, expect it to be moved up a group (or two) people.

[pribeiro]

My times were obtained with fuel for 5 laps, one out lap and one hot lap.

Corvette L88 Coupe - 1.53.7 
Cobra 289 Coupe - 1.54.7 
Cobra 289 Roadster - 1.56.0
Elan - 1.53.8

Cheers

[Ade]

Times so far after 5 or 6 laps in each with full fuel

Group 'C'
IROC..........1:51.463
F275 'S'.....1:51.210

Group 'D'

L88..................1:54.607
289 Coupe......1:55.893
289 Roadster...1:57.205
Elan.................1:55.083

[Tibernius]

If Porsche 911s drive like that I can see why people buy them. Brilliant car.

P.B. of 1:53.3 with Radial Tyres and 19 laps worth of fuel. Normally in the high 1:53s - Mid 1:54s.

[Paul968]

I've updated my times. Older times will obviously be a bit slow now.

Ade, we need to agree on the way we test. I thought most were testing with some fuel but not full fuel, but you are using full. Can we agree on an amount? 5 gallons? 10 gallons?

[pribeiro]

5 gallons? 10 gallons?

What is a gallon?  


EDIT: 1 gallon = 4.563 liters  

[Paul968]

What is a gallon?  Roll Eyes


EDIT: 1 gallon = 4.563 liters  Grin

EDIT: 1 gallon = 4.546 Litres 

[Ade]

I thought we were posting times with race fuel, so with 2x fuel use a full tank was the way to go.
Not enjoying the 2x tyre wear    on 6 after 4 laps in the Cobra 427 .
The guys at the GTL Workshop have done loads of work on tyre modelling and manuals then Legzy comes along with his grubby little fingers and presses a few buttons and I'm driving on jelly Personally i think with us all getting  to grips with  a new sim we don't need anything to make it any harder (can cope with the fuel at 2x) but don't like it, its supposed to be a simulation after all.

As for the amount of fuel to use for times i find some of the cars in this and other sims i can get faster times with more fuel in than running on fumes for a qualifying lap, like the TR4 i took at lime rock, i could hustle it round better  with more juice in it.
Haven't really had time to check other cars in P&G to see what cars like the extra weight (I'm sure some do).

[Legzy]

The guys at the GTL Workshop have done loads of work on tyre modelling and manuals then Legzy comes along with his grubby little fingers and presses a few buttons and I'm driving on jelly

LOL - Funniest post of the day!!! (Althouth I also enjoyed Tony's tale of woe, about "the AI taking over at the end of the race so he wasn't able to pile into Legzy!" )

[Paul968]

ah - see where you are coming from now. All my laps up to now have been with about 10 laps fuel, not full, and I got the impression others were doing the same. The 2x thing does rather confuse matters doesn't it?

[Ade]

Just done 4 laps in the GT40 MKII   tyres are on fire after one lap and at 6.5 wear on the front right and not much better at the rear right 6.3 , not that fast in it either 1:53.8 (cant do any more laps in it at the moment coz I'm P,ing on the tyres) don't think it will be possible to do more than 4 laps in a row and get a quicker time when the tyres get  in such a state, can someone else give it a go and see what you think.

                                                                  Cheers Ade

[Mark J]

crapola, i hadnt even noticed the 2x wear on fuel and tyres   

hmm thats gonna be interesting as i doubt any of us have ever run these cars longer than 40mins and at normal wear rates.
It will certainly have an impact on lap times as guess most of us will have to run Hard compound tyres to cope with the wear.

As for testing and posting lap times, i have generally always used the 10laps worth of fuel as others had posted.

Aww man, you taking my beloved IROC away from me again? 

[Manteos]

I've turned with all cars of each group. These times are done with 100 litres or with full tank for the Elan and the 914, that got a smaller tank... Approximately 10 laps for each one:

[VDA] Manteos    1:46.552      18/07/2009     Gr6-2   Porsche 906 Carrera 6 (20 ltrs )
[VDA] Manteos    1:48.787      18/07/2009     Gr6-2   Porsche 906 Carrera 6  (100 ltrs...)
[VDA] Manteos    1:48.993      18/07/2009     Gr6-2   Porsche 906 Carrera 6 Langheck (Could be a 48.7)
[VDA] Manteos    1:49.273      18/07/2009     Gr6+2   Ford GT40 MK II (48 was so near...)
[VDA] Manteos    1:49.980      18/07/2009     IROC   Porsche 911 RSR IROC
[VDA] Manteos    1:50.461      18/07/2009     Gr3+2L   Ferrari 275 GTB/C Speciale
[VDA] Manteos    1:50.510      18/07/2009     TC70   Porsche 914/6 GT
[VDA] Manteos    1:51.765      18/07/2009     Gr3-2L   Lotus Elan 26R (after 40 laps)
[VDA] Manteos    1:52.243      18/07/2009     Gr4   Shelby Cobra 427 Roadster (difficult to set)
[VDA] Manteos    1:52.706      17/07/2009     Gr3+2L   Chevrolet Corvette C2 L88 Coupe (That's surely beatable at least of 1 sec)
[VDA] Manteos    1:56.933      17/07/2009     Gr3+2L   Shelby Cobra 289 Roadster (I gave up after 2 laps... very difficult to drive...)

[Manteos]

The IROC seems totally out of place in group C - it is quicker than either car in group B. The 427 is horrible again and needs a good driver to get the best from, so I can't see anyone in group B making it work (even if you ignore the fact that it is a painful car to drive).

Totally agree with you Paul! IROC seems faster of any group B cars, and the 427 is for expert drivers... Group C or D seems most appropriate. I suggest to consider a swap between 427 and IROC ... About the group D cars I think that only the L88 and the Lotus Elan can reach a pace pace near the 1.51.5-52.0, and the two Cobras 289 seem to be cut out of the fight.
I hope to be helpful, as ever ! Cu