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  • S17 Monza: August 04, 2009
August 04, 2009, 09:37:51 PM +0100 - Monza (Full 10km) - UKGPL Season 17 (2009)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Grzegorz Lenarciak
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 6 +1.723
160.186mph
1 1:25:39.194
156.714mph
36 2:20.243
159.521mph
Firestone  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT26a (DFV) F1 1969 7 +1.857
160.033mph
2 +20.548
156.090mph
36 2:20.540
159.184mph
Goodyear  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 312 (1969) F1 1969 8 +2.542
159.252mph
3 +29.773
155.811mph
36 2:18.666
161.336mph
Firestone  
Geoff65
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 12 +4.046
157.565mph
4 +30.042
155.803mph
36 2:20.291
159.467mph
Firestone  
API
 Team Oldie Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 9 +3.564
158.102mph
5 +51.822
155.149mph
36 2:21.840
157.725mph
Firestone  
BookieW
 HikiWazaRacing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 18 +11.750
149.456mph
6 +2L
147.665mph
34 2:28.593
150.557mph
Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 2 +0.153
162.007mph
7 +21L
157.080mph
15 2:19.466
160.410mph
Disco
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 1 2:17.938
162.187mph
8 +22L
158.616mph
14 2:18.627
161.381mph
Disco
Firestone  
STEFAN STEIN69
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 17 +10.044
151.179mph
9 +23L
148.160mph
13 2:26.038
153.191mph
Disco
Firestone  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 11 +3.994
157.623mph
10 +24L
150.896mph
12 2:21.722
157.857mph
Disco
Firestone  
Tifosi312
 
Ferrari 312 (1969) F1 1969 4 +0.784
161.270mph
11 +29L
157.750mph
7 2:20.235
159.531mph
Disco
Firestone  
MikeBeattie
 Drake Racing
McLaren M7 (DFV) F1 1969 3 +0.593
161.493mph
12 +32.636
152.729mph
7 2:20.269
159.492mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Mike Ruel
 
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 20 13 +31L
140.581mph
5 2:28.345
150.809mph
Disco
Dunlop  
maestro57
 Black Night Racing
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 13 +4.524
157.037mph
14 +33L
147.133mph
3 2:25.597
153.655mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Podkrecony_Ziutek
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 5 +1.708
160.203mph
15 +36L
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accident
Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 HikiWazaRacing
BRM P126/139 F1 1969 15 +5.880
155.556mph
16
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0 ---
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Disco
Dunlop  
Ruud Savelkoul
 
Matra MS80 (DFV) F1 1969 16 +7.715
153.596mph
17
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0 ---
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Disco
Dunlop  
ACHIM KRAFT_69
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 14 +5.265
156.224mph
18
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0 ---
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Disco
Firestone  
Turkey Machine
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 10 +3.898
157.730mph
19 DNS ---
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Firestone  
6 UKGPL
 
Lotus 49b (DFV) F1 1969 19 20 ---
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Firestone  
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« Reply #60 on: August 05, 2009, 05:03:54 PM +0100 »

Wings are for whimps!!!!

Pssst, Numpty.....6 winged wimps finished ALL 36 laps..... Wink

To quote a certain member whom shall remain nameless, regarding the wingless rockets....
  "Take off like rockets, come down sticks"

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« Reply #61 on: August 05, 2009, 08:37:52 PM +0100 »


As for the race it was great fun but Evil and I didn't take each other out, as H has suggested, we had help.  Grin

As we approached the pits we found Stefan Stein's Lotus, stationary and sideways across the track.  LOL  He had run into the end of the pit wall at full chat.  I had wondered how many people had run into the darn thing whilst trying to read their pit board.  Anyway, by the time I could see him it was too late to miss him.

Evil lost a couple of wheels but I was able to carry on but the impact had convinced the engine that it was sick and so I pulled over.

Shame, because I don’t often find myself in a position to put one over on Hristo or Evil but my setup was giving me a definite edge.  LOL  Most of the time they pulled out of my slip stream and then went backwards.  Very reassuring. Grin

I never found anyone to give me a tow but I think I might match Gerard’s 2:15 if I could get tucked in behind someone.

Thanks for the fun!

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I was quite enjoying myself in this marathon. Getting pole was a fluke I think, as I only picked up a small tow ...but fortunately just exactly where I needed it.

I had a good start but knew that unless people fell over themselves on lap 1 I would be caught....and I was by Clive L and Paul Skingley as they used the tow to reel me in. But that was ok as we still had 30 or so laps still to survive.

After a few laps Hristo dragged his Fezza into our cosy little club and the 4 of us circulated in a slipstreaming group for lap after lap.

It soon became clear that barring accidents or car failures no-one was going to break away so it looked like a 4 way tussle until the closing laps.

I did not save a replay ( I always seem to forget!!) but I know that Paul's exit, was after a contact between us exiting Curve Grande which I survived but he did not. I'm not sure what happened paul, if I was at fault I apologise but I thought I was holding to my side of the track and certainly was not looking to "nerf" you or block any passing move. I was quite happy sat behind two or three cars being towed around and saving my engine. Even backing off at the end of the straight rather than risk a passing move or over revving the whizzy bits, and anyway there was a long way to go.

Despite being 4 secs adrift from Hristo and Clive after the contact with Paul, it took only 2-3 laps to draw them back to me, so I knew I had plenty of speed in hand. As the lap count down got into the low 20's Hristo had a moment at Lesmos and then ran wide at Parabolica as he wrestled with his puncture. This left Clive in his Low Drag Matra pulling me around in my Lotus. Hristo was a few seconds back but did not seem to be closing as fast as I expected ( now I know about the puncture it makes sense).


I was beginning to think that the "plan" was working out quite well ...here i was sitting comfortably in 2nd spot with a willing windbreak in the form of Clive L's Matra ,..Hristo 3rd slightly incapacitated... and the 4th place car some 30 seconds back, and the race not quite half way through!!!

Ah, but it is not wise to start a census amongst the poultry, whilst there are still hens on nests Undecided

There I was a comfortable 25mtrs behind Clive, exiting Parabolica and aligning myself exactly in his wheel tracks for the whizz around the bankings when........................................I happened to notice Mr Loynes leap sideways at about the same time as I caught sight of a flaming wreck of a car directly in front of me!!! This was almost a subliminal image as it appeared and vanished so quickly, whilst I got a birds eye view of the pits and two of my wheels making a bid for freedom.

It was a great race despite the sudden ending and I think the full grid shows that there was real interest in something slightly different for a change. If everyone had thought that it really was too long , then surely there would not have been so many willing to try??? I don't think that a whole season of such races is viable, but as occasional "special events" a resounding success. Evil



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« Reply #62 on: August 05, 2009, 09:35:05 PM +0100 »


It was a great race despite the sudden ending and I think the full grid shows that there was real interest in something slightly different for a change. If everyone had thought that it really was too long , then surely there would not have been so many willing to try??? I don't think that a whole season of such races is viable, but as occasional "special events" a resounding success. Evil

It's not long when you have someone to slipstream and battle with, but way too long when you don't.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #63 on: August 05, 2009, 10:00:42 PM +0100 »

 Huh 11 discos HuhHuhHuh?? if thats true none can tell that event a success.....
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« Reply #64 on: August 05, 2009, 10:28:08 PM +0100 »

Wings are for whimps!!!!

Pssst, Numpty.....6 winged wimps finished ALL 36 laps..... Wink

To quote a certain member whom shall remain nameless, regarding the wingless rockets....
  "Take off like rockets, come down sticks"

 Grin
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I'll back my rocket against your parachute any day!   Grin

Don’t think any amount of wing would have saved me from a bloke turning the pit straight into a car park.  Unless it made me so slow that he had buggered off by the time I got there.
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« Reply #65 on: August 05, 2009, 10:56:11 PM +0100 »

Huh 11 discos HuhHuhHuh?? if thats true none can tell that event a success.....
The importer can't reliably determine why a driver didn't complete the full distance.  Sometimes it will state accident but most of the time it will state disco even if someone retired due to mechanical failure.  Genuine discos are quire rare.  I suspect in this case most people either crashed or blew an engine, it was pro rules after all.
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« Reply #66 on: August 06, 2009, 02:32:54 AM +0100 »


Don’t think any amount of wing would have saved me from a bloke turning the pit straight into a car park.  Unless it made me so slow that he had buggered off by the time I got there.


Or... your wings generate positive lift and you fly over the trouble zone!
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« Reply #67 on: August 06, 2009, 07:24:32 AM +0100 »


I happened to notice Mr Loynes leap sideways at about the same time as I caught sight of a flaming wreck of a car directly in front of me!!! This was almost a subliminal image as it appeared and vanished so quickly, whilst I got a birds eye view of the pits and two of my wheels making a bid for freedom.


I must admit Clive, the end of that pit wall claimed my r/h wheels once or twice in practice for this race....as it shows up poorly at a distance and just seems to appear out of nowhere to claim ownership of the rubber-coated whizzy bits of your car. I learned to stay well left near the cones on that leg of the track, the hard way.
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« Reply #68 on: August 06, 2009, 08:28:36 AM +0100 »

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The importer can't reliably determine why a driver didn't complete the full distance.  Sometimes it will state accident but most of the time it will state disco even if someone retired due to mechanical failure.  Genuine discos are quire rare.  I suspect in this case most people either crashed or blew an engine, it was pro rules after all.

 Smiley ah ok . glad to hear . ( didnt know , thx for information ) Smiley
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« Reply #69 on: August 06, 2009, 09:06:01 AM +0100 »

Maybe we just say split alphabetically by chat name? 
Nice to be victims of our own success though  Grin
Can't you hijack GPLRACERS grid system?  They are on holiday!
Ideal for something like this but srou is not set up for it. Also we don't want to force people to register at UKGPL although we'd like them too  Wink

Just a thought but you could make use of GPLRank.

It would be possible to create a Division called "Next Race" under the UKGPL League.  Anyone who enters the race by posting in srou could be added to the division and then filtering in "Multiple Choice Hell” to only look at drivers in the Next Race division would give you an ordered list that would let you divide the field.

People would need to up load their times to Rank when they have made an improvement.  In the case of Hristo, who only uploads his times once a millennium, you could just seed him through to the fast grid.  Same with the likes of Mike and Paul, if they have indicated that they are going to race.

Having spent some time organising races I personally feel that the least people could do is to let you know if they are going to race.  That way you can see if there is a problem.

So long as prospective entrants have a GPLRank account they can be added to the division without their actually registering with UKGPL.

All of this assumes that you are going to strike lucky again and pick on a combination that people want to race in vast numbers.  But you have done it twice.
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« Reply #70 on: August 06, 2009, 09:57:54 AM +0100 »

It would be possible to create a Division called "Next Race" under the UKGPL League.  Anyone who enters the race by posting in srou could be added to the division and then filtering in "Multiple Choice Hell” to only look at drivers in the Next Race division would give you an ordered list that would let you divide the field.
Sounds a really good idea, might think about that next time but there's only two more races left in the summer lot.
I've sort of got to know most of you since being at UKGPL so, as a stop gap, could probably rely on my judgement to split the grids into two by calling a block of names for grid one. I'm sure I wouldn't get it exactly right but it would be a quick solution...
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« Reply #71 on: August 06, 2009, 10:05:28 PM +0100 »

I have the answer to our problems Evil.

A nice man called Ginetto has nipped out and painted the Armco yellow so people can see it from further away!

Just lob the mip file that is here

http://forum.racesimcentral.com/showthread.php?p=3984467&posted=1#post3984467

 into the Monza 10k track folder and the jobs done.

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