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September 08, 2009, 08:33:33 PM +0100 - Barber (GP) - UKPnG Version 2 Season 1 Clubmans Tokens
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
(VDA) MinholoS
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Lotus Elan 26R (#66121) P&G Group 3 U2L 1 1:38.242
84.210mph
1 1:04:05.103
81.759mph
38 1:38.695
83.823mph
Dunlop  
lazlow
 Team Oldie Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#66121) P&G Group 3 U2L 3 +0.811
83.520mph
2 +8.573
81.577mph
38 1:38.979
83.583mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#64044) P&G Group 3 U2L 5 +1.221
83.176mph
3 +33.989
81.043mph
38 1:39.830
82.870mph
Dunlop  
API
 Team Oldie Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#66121) P&G Group 3 U2L 6 +2.194
82.370mph
4 +55.230
80.601mph
38 1:40.733
82.127mph
Dunlop  
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 10 +3.341
81.440mph
5 +1L
79.571mph
37 1:41.361
81.619mph
Dunlop  
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 12 +3.618
81.219mph
6 +25.181
79.053mph
37 1:42.192
80.955mph
Dunlop  
Tim Robey
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Lotus Elan 26R (#64054) P&G Group 3 U2L 9 +3.311
81.464mph
7 +40.329
78.745mph
37 1:41.890
81.195mph
Dunlop  
jpv
 
Lotus Elan 26R (#64054) P&G Group 3 U2L 11 +3.395
81.397mph
8 +55.942
78.430mph
37 1:41.836
81.238mph
Dunlop  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Chevrolet Corvette C2 roadster (#67007) P&G Group 3 O2L 13 +3.660
81.185mph
9 +1:09.110
78.166mph
37 1:42.334
80.843mph
Goodyear  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Elan 26R (#66121) P&G Group 3 U2L 8 +2.866
81.823mph
10 +1:13.079
78.087mph
37 1:41.250
81.708mph
Dunlop  
(VDA)KING
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Lotus Elan 26R (#66121) P&G Group 3 U2L 2 +0.804
83.526mph
11 +1:25.416
77.842mph
37 1:39.989
82.739mph
Dunlop  
lelero
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 14 +3.833
81.048mph
12 +1:32.696
77.698mph
37 1:42.142
80.995mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63016) P&G Group 3 O2L 16 +4.298
80.680mph
13 (+2) +1:38.077
77.592mph
37 1:42.518
80.697mph
Dunlop  
Madd-RIP
 Team RVS
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 17 +4.377
80.618mph
14 +2L
77.055mph
36 1:42.707
80.549mph
Dunlop  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Renault Alpine A110 (#68061) P&G Group 3 U2L 15 +4.021
80.899mph
15 +39.298
76.279mph
36 1:42.645
80.598mph
Dunlop  
Mcfids
 Team Pseudo Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#68061) P&G Group 3 U2L 23 +6.737
78.806mph
16 +43.086
76.206mph
36 1:45.006
78.785mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Jaguar E-Type (#63023) P&G Group 3 O2L 22 +6.663
78.861mph
17 +48.227
76.105mph
36 1:43.770
79.724mph
Dunlop  
Andy Charman
 
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 25 +8.303
77.647mph
18 +3L
73.460mph
35 1:45.393
78.496mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
Alfa Romeo 1600 GTA (#67115) P&G Group 2 26 +10.037
76.404mph
19 +4L
72.641mph
34 1:48.453
76.281mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Elite (#63039) P&G Group 3 U2L 24 +7.906
77.938mph
20 +9.976
72.455mph
34 1:46.189
77.908mph
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing
Shelby Cobra 289 (#64084) P&G Group 3 O2L 20 +6.259
79.166mph
21 34 1:43.436
79.981mph
suspension
Goodyear  
Josè Arrogantio
 
Austin Healey 3000 (don't use) (#63033) P&G Group 3 O2L 27 +13.708
73.899mph
22 +6L
67.142mph
32 1:51.453
74.228mph
Dunlop  
IvAlAx
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 18 +4.734
80.339mph
23 32 1:42.487
80.722mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Pippomox
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Renault Alpine A110 (#68061) P&G Group 3 U2L 24 +9L 29 1:42.674
80.575mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Jos Verstappen
 
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 19 +6.160
79.241mph
25 +15L 23 1:43.931
79.600mph
suspension
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C Speciale (#66015) P&G Group 3 O2L 4 +1.064
83.308mph
26 +33L 5 1:39.293
83.318mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Gavino Pintus
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 7 +2.527
82.098mph
27 +35L 3 1:41.707
81.341mph
DQ
Dunlop  
icarus17
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Renault Alpine A110 (#68061) P&G Group 3 U2L 21 +6.305
79.131mph
28 +37L 1 2:00.247
68.800mph
suspension
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Drivers who overspent their seasons Token Allocation

  • (VDA) MinholoSadvice — Tokens Debt = 2 Tokens — 10.0 championship points
  • Truetomadvice — Tokens Debt = 4 Tokens — 20.0 championship points


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Matt Rowe badly misjudges his approach to turn three on lap one of the race. He makes contact with Lelero who in turn can not avoid colliding with Manteos. Both VDA drivers end up losing five or six places as a result.
I accept Matt's explanation for not waiting in this instance with 28 cars on the track and know from first-hand experience he has waited in other circumstances. Given that Matt must have realised he was responsible for the accident, he might have considered a self-imposed drive through instead. (Easy I know with hindsight to suggest).
Given that the accident occurred on the first lap where drivers are urged to be cautious, I have no option but to impose the two place penalty prescribed.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
P&G Group 2
1:48.279
76.404mph
Wiltshire Tony
Qualifying
Alfa Romeo 1600 GTASeptember 08, 2009, 08:33:33 PM +0100
P1T
GTR2
P&G Group 2
1:48.453
76.281mph
Wiltshire Tony
Race
Alfa Romeo 1600 GTASeptember 08, 2009, 08:33:33 PM +0100
P1T
GTR2
P&G Group 3 U2L
1:38.242
84.210mph
(VDA) MinholoS
Qualifying
Lotus Elan 26RSeptember 08, 2009, 08:33:33 PM +0100
P1T
GTR2
P&G Group 3 U2L
1:38.695
83.823mph
(VDA) MinholoS
Race
Lotus Elan 26RSeptember 08, 2009, 08:33:33 PM +0100
P1T
GTR2
P&G Group 3 O2L
1:39.293
83.318mph
Truetom
Race
Ferrari 275 GTB/C SpecialeSeptember 08, 2009, 08:33:33 PM +0100
P1T
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« on: August 25, 2009, 04:10:33 PM +0100 »

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Practice 1: 20:00 (10 mins)
Qual 2: 20:10 (20 mins)
Race: 20:30 (38 laps (about 60mins)) note: no warmup!


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Time of Day Setting: 08:00
Start: STANDING

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« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2009, 04:10:50 PM +0100 »

Clubmans & Tokens quick guide (see bottom for full details)
  • All drivers get a Tokens budget for the season
  • The faster the driver, the less Tokens they get
  • The better the car, the higher it's Tokens cost is to use in a race
  • If you do not attend a race, you will lose your average number of Tokens*
  • Trust me, you do not want to run out of Tokens before the final race! death


Tokens
20
19
18
17
16
15
14
13
12
11
10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1
0
Cars Available
Porsche 906/8
GT40 Gulf
Porsche 911 RSR 3L
Porsche 906/6, GT40 mk II
GT40 mk I, Porsche 911 IROC
Porsche 914/6, Shelby Cobra 427 Roadster
Ferrari 275 GTB Speciale
Shelby Daytona Coupe
Lotus Elan, Chevrolet Corvette L88 Coupe (Penske)
Shelby Cobra 289 Coupe (Willment)
Shelby Cobra 289 Coupe (not Willment), Shelby GT-350R CASC
Shelby Cobra 289 Roadster, Ferrari 275 GTB/C, Corvette L88 Roadster, E-Type Jag Lightweight
GT350 SCCA, Corvette L72 Coupe, Falcon Weslakeheads, Mustang ATCC, Alfa Volumetrico
E Type Jag Coupe, E Type Jag Roadster
Ford Mustang Trans Am, Ford Falcon Mann, Chevrolet z06 Coupe
Ferrari 250 C, Mustang NTK
Alpine 1300, Alfa Romeo GTA
Corvette L76 Roadster, Lotus Cortina Works
Abarth 1000TC Gr5, TR4
Lotus Elite, Ferrari 250 B, Mini Cooper 1275s
Healey mk 2

'Remaining Tokens' total to be announced after completion of the previous race. If you're name is not listed below, say Hi on the thread (with an indication of your pace) & I give you a Tokens budget for the season.

Driver
Ayrton4_94
Paul968
Manteos
Pippomox
Lelero
Madd-RIP
Jos Verstappen
Jose Arrogantio
Pepz
Ade
API
PR
TrueTom
IvAIAx
Purdie
Simon Gymer
Blunder
King
icarus17
Mr_Oily
PhSpok
Psuedo
Lazlow
MJ
SamB
Mike Cook
Andy Charman
Dave Gymer
Legzy
Spanner
Tim Robey
Geoffers
Mcfids
Tibernius
Ross
Picnic
57Goldtop
Dave Shep
BillThomas
Wiltshire Tony
OilSeal
LigelC
Lars Sch
Jimmer
Ruskus
Burtoner
Tokens (for season)
46
49
49
49
53
53
56
56
60
60
60
63
63
63
67
67
67
67
67
70
70
70
70
70
74
74
77
77
77
77
81
81
81
84
84
84
88
88
91
91
95
95
98
98
46?
70?
Tokens Remaining
37
40
40
40
44
45
47
53
51
51
51
60
54
54
49
54
57
57
57
60
61
60
61
60
57
63
58
59
68
64
73
69
66
73
72
72
78
75
79
77
81
81
84
84
39?
60?
Tokens Forecast (end of season)
-2.5
-2
-2
-2
-1.5
0
-1
5
0
-0.5
-0.5
6
0
0
-8.5
-3.5
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
0
-6.5
0
-5.5
-7
2
-2
7
-0.5
-3.5
1
0
0
2.5
0
1
-1
0
0
0
0
?
?



(Clubmans & Tokens Full Details guide to follow)


* = Your starting season Tokens budget divided by seven (races in the tokens season) = Your average number of Tokens (i.e. Legzy has 77 Tokens for the season, divide that by 7 & Legzy's average number of Tokens per race is 11. While Tony's average tokens per race is 13.)
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2009, 05:02:58 PM +0100 »

Remaining tokens for all drivers after one event, have now been published above, complete with your token spending forecast Shocked.

If your name is not on that list & you wish to join in, please say 'Hi' on the thread & if possible give us an idea of your pace so I can give you a probationary Tokens budget. Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2009, 05:43:25 PM +0100 »

Remaining tokens for all drivers after one event, have now been published above, complete with your token spending forecast Shocked.

Please Sir can I have some more (tokens)?  Wink

I actually took the Corvette L72 Coupe which cost 8 points, so I should have 73 tokens left.

Ta very muchy  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2009, 06:08:51 PM +0100 »

Legzy I have 79 tokens left with 6 more races left - 6X12 = 72 should leave me with 7; or are you assuming I go for 6X13 = 78?

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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2009, 06:25:21 PM +0100 »

cor 10 tokens down and i didnt turn a bleeding wheel in anger  Tongue Wink ..only kidding obviously  Grin  Did my own P&G driving when i picked up the new toy during last nights race  Cool

Ive never driven this track before nor have the foggiest idea what it looks like, should be a challenge. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2009, 06:29:22 PM +0100 »

I drove the Corvette L76 Roadster ( 2 Tokens) at Daytona but my token budget has gon down by 3 from 56 to 53.  Huh
PR has also lost 3 tokens.
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2009, 07:20:04 PM +0100 »

Is the Alfa Romeo GTA the 1300 or 1600?
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2009, 08:46:09 PM +0100 »

Is the Alfa Romeo GTA the 1300 or 1600?
1300 = Junior
1600 = GTA
1600(+) = Volumetrico

The Junior is not included in our Tokens car choices, the other two are.
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2009, 09:17:18 PM +0100 »

Please Sir can I have some more (tokens)?  Wink
I actually took the Corvette L72 Coupe which cost 8 points, so I should have 73 tokens left.
Yup, you're quite right. My mistake. Sorry. Thanks for letting me know & now amended.  Smiley.
I'll have to take even more car with those Vette's!

Legzy I have 79 tokens left with 6 more races left - 6X12 = 72 should leave me with 7; or are you assuming I go for 6X13 = 78?
The tokens forecast is just a quick glance guide to see how in debt/credit you are, if you spend your personal average for each remaining race till the end of season. So for you personally Bill, that's 6 (races) x 13 (your average Tokens per race) = 68... but you have 69 Tokens currently so you're 1 in credit  Smiley

 
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2009, 09:44:26 PM +0100 »

Hope to make this one so have been learning the circuit.  Decided to use the cheapest P906 (a red one) but it turns 'black' quite a few times during a lap.  Anyone know why this happens, is it my settings maybe?


To Tony & Legzy:  In my opinion the tokens are a great idea.  thumbup2   Now even I cannot afford to keep taking the quickest car available from the race selection - which is what I have basically been doing up to now.

So all being well I'll see you on the 8th

Laurie   scooter

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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2009, 11:19:16 PM +0100 »

I drove the Corvette L76 Roadster ( 2 Tokens) at Daytona but my token budget has gon down by 3 from 56 to 53.  Huh
PR has also lost 3 tokens.
I can confirm that the L76 Roadster costs 3 Tokens (not two mate).  Smiley
Tokens
3
Cars Available
Corvette L76 Roadster, Lotus Cortina Works

EDIT - Just worked out what it was. It was a 'formatting screen resolution type problem'. To solve it, I've removed the E-Type Lightweight 4-Speed from the problem line (cars the value of 8 Tokens), formatting should now show correctly on everybody's PC's Smiley



Did my own P&G driving when i picked up the new toy during last nights race  Cool
Saw the pic MJ, very fancy  drool(for a few seconds, I even imagined I could get one...). Must have cost a few tokens? Let me know & if it's more then your 'average', then I can make sure you have less for the next race  Tongue Wink


Hope to make this one so have been learning the circuit.
Hope to see you there Ligel  Cool
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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2009, 09:23:07 PM +0100 »

Wow, what a fantastic track that is !  Cool Had never driven it before but its a real peach for these classic race cars.

Tried out 3 very different cars and they were all great fun. Im in low 47's with a couple of the cars in the 7-9 token bracket  Kiss

This should make for a great race with all the terrific roller coaster corners.  Cool

Thanks for the nice comments on my new toy. Just found out it was a Porsche-world magazine front cover featured machine in the past  Cool
Been putting it through its paces in the last few days...great fun!  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2009, 10:18:06 PM +0100 »

Thanks for the heads up on times in car types Mark, very useful markers. thumbup1
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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2009, 09:32:42 AM +0100 »

Madd, just to confirm, they were with full race fuel online too.  Smiley

Love this track, will have to take the IROC/RSR around it just for the fun of it !...but would i want to use up my precious tokens in the actual race, eh?  shifty

Actually thats the only problem this token system throws up. Its very hard to predict what your fellow competitors may take, to guarantee you can have your usual good fun racing your usual combatants Undecided Because we have the whole car range available and people will place different priorities on what race track they want to use a certain car at.

Apart from the evil handling cars, i think i would enjoy driving any classic race car around here  Cool
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