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  • U10LE Silverstone: September 13, 2009
September 13, 2009, 08:38:20 PM +0100 - Silverstone (GP 2000-09) - UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jeffrey
 Team Shark
Lamborghini Gallardo (#80000) GT2 1 1:45.663
109.336mph
1 1:21:23.527
104.089mph
44 1:46.506
108.471mph
Michelin  
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 Kerb Crawlers
Lamborghini Gallardo (#80000) GT2 2 +0.905
108.408mph
2 +51.964
102.994mph
44 1:47.743
107.226mph
Michelin  
Gazza49er
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 430 (#410052) GT2 5 +1.634
107.671mph
3 +1:00.325
102.819mph
44 1:47.636
107.332mph
Michelin  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (#800008) GT2 4 +1.553
107.753mph
4 +1:11.247
102.593mph
44 1:47.887
107.083mph
Michelin  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
BMW M3 GTR (#920001) GT2 6 +2.060
107.246mph
5 +1:35.902
102.085mph
44 1:48.483
106.494mph
Michelin  
H@L9000
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW M3 GTR (#880052) GT2 8 +2.773
106.540mph
6 +1L
101.421mph
43 1:49.104
105.888mph
Michelin  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (#990057) GT2 9 +3.030
106.288mph
7 +10.513
101.204mph
43 1:49.160
105.834mph
Michelin  
Jimmie
 
Ferrari 360 GTC (#4062) GT2 11 +3.272
106.052mph
8 +13.578
101.141mph
43 1:49.369
105.632mph
Pirelli  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 360 GTC (#760052) GT2 16 +6.117
103.353mph
9 +2L
98.551mph
42 1:51.500
103.613mph
Pirelli  
Stewprovo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (#840013) GT2 12 +3.312
106.013mph
10 +17.537
98.201mph
42 1:50.044
104.984mph
Michelin  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Ferrari 430 (#110014) GT2 7 +2.367
106.941mph
11 +19.074
98.171mph
42 1:48.904
106.083mph
Michelin  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Panoz Esperante GTLM (#50000) GT2 14 +5.788
103.658mph
12 +19.903
98.154mph
42 1:51.554
103.563mph
Michelin  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 GTC (#880013) GT2 15 +6.082
103.385mph
13 +49.810
97.564mph
42 1:51.964
103.183mph
Pirelli  
API
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#3113) GT3 17 +7.110
102.443mph
14 +52.344
97.514mph
42 1:53.592
101.704mph
Pirelli  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) GT3 20 +8.562
101.141mph
15 +55.819
97.446mph
42 1:53.383
101.892mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
BMW Z3M (#3115) GT3 18 +7.309
102.263mph
16 +6L 38 1:53.099
102.148mph
unknown
Michelin  
lazlow
 Team Oldie Racing
BMW Z3M (#940014) GT3 19 +7.325
102.248mph
17 +12L 32 1:53.633
101.668mph
unknown
Michelin  
jpv
 
Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (#60000) GT2 13 +5.045
104.354mph
18 +19L 25 1:50.781
104.285mph
unknown
Michelin  
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Lamborghini Gallardo (#80000) GT2 3 +0.950
108.362mph
19 +20L 24 1:48.044
106.927mph
unknown
Michelin  
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing
Lamborghini Gallardo (#80000) GT2 10 +3.216
106.107mph
20 +24L 20 1:48.707
106.275mph
unknown
Michelin  

Moderator's Report

Shark pits and stops at his pit box, Stewprovo hadn't requested a stop but enters the pitlane behind Shark. He is expecting him to pit in the next stall so attempts to drive into his box however Shark stops in the same place and Stewprovo drives into the back of him.

The pitlane is the most dangerous place for incidents, the level of detail is dependant on the players graphics setup, use of auto-pit can mean predicting peoples movements is impossible. Extra caution should be shown within the pits. Reading the rules, It isnt mandatory to request a stop prior to it but drivers "should make every effort" as it will prevent these kind of incidents. Stewprovo also didnt try to brake or make any effort to avoid him which could have helped to avoid this.
This wasnt a racing incident on track, Shark wasnt delayed or penalised because of it, his stop was already underway. If Stewprovo had followed the correct procedure to pit this could have been avoided. With no real penalty guidelines regarding this type of incident i have to issue a caution to Stewprovo.

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SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
GT2
1:45.663
109.336mph
Jeffrey
Qualifying
Lamborghini GallardoSeptember 13, 2009, 08:38:20 PM +0100
U10LE
GTR2
GT2
1:46.506
108.471mph
Jeffrey
Race
Lamborghini GallardoSeptember 13, 2009, 08:38:20 PM +0100
U10LE
GTR2
GT3
1:52.773
102.443mph
API
Qualifying
Porsche 996 GT3 CupSeptember 13, 2009, 08:38:20 PM +0100
U10LE
GTR2
GT3
1:53.099
102.148mph
picnic
Race
BMW Z3MSeptember 13, 2009, 08:38:20 PM +0100
U10LE
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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2009, 10:13:00 PM +0100 »

Unlucky Picnic. So glad I'm on VM Cable and not that ADSL rubbish.

My race was interesting with a fair bit of action for the first half and then very boring for the second stint.

Couldn't reach my off-line pace in qually, as only managed 1:47.8 or something after I managed very low 1:47s off-line.

The BMW was nice on low fuel, but with a tank full of fuel it was diabolical. In the race I was having to try and find ways to get the fronts to grip with the full tank, like weaving down the straights, but it wasn't helping much. Second stint it was like a completely different car, 1-1.5 seconds a lap faster with half a tank of fuel (and some damage repaired) and it was much less lairy too. If I'd known how much faster it was on half a tank I would have not filled the tank in the first place and done 2x 60 litre stints instead as I would have definately made the time up I'd lose from refueling for longer.

I was having to run low wing to gain speed down the straights. I think that compromised me most through Maggots and Beckets, but elsewhere it wasn't really noticable.

Well done to the podium.
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2009, 10:13:26 PM +0100 »

Thats it, the porker sucks!!! Angry It would seriuosly get out dragged by an asmatic donkey on the straights! Not a good race really, decided to go long first stint, only to find that hard/hard only last 40 mins anyway, so plans to run med/med for last 25 mins scuppered, and the fact that for the second time this season, the tean KC fuel man was having a wee or something when I came in, so no fuel was added at stop. Then get stop/go for speeding in pitlane, only for my pit to be occupied by someone elses BMW when I came back in, so another 40 secs lost there. When are we going back to sprints, cause pitstops are really  censored me off!!! Nice dice for last few mins with Legzy, as I had to short shift everywhere to save fuel, him & Blunder were all over me, nice driving guys. Oh well, back to my trusty Aston for next week. Laters guys.
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2009, 10:15:45 PM +0100 »

only for my pit to be occupied by someone elses BMW when I came back in, so another 40 secs lost there.

You have to remember to request pit stops (even for stop and gos) so you can tell if someone is in your box. If the blue light won't come on then you shouldn't come in.
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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2009, 10:17:01 PM +0100 »

Not good Pete  Lips Sealed

Sorry for tap on warm up lap JR. It looks like you caught Dan and I out somehow, just a shame it took Dan off (maybe we are never destined to race each other at Silverstone Dan Embarrassed) Totally our fault for sleeping of course and hope it didn't damage your car.

Quite race really and highlights were meeting GT3, who were excellent, and Stew/Legzy at end. Legzy, less chat and more driving next time Wink. Congrats to Stew on that one I think.

Congrats JR, Gazza and GT3 fellas.
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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2009, 10:17:12 PM +0100 »

This track really shows the 360 GTC can't keep up with all those add on cars.

That's a bit of a pitty, on the other hand I had a challenge in front of me.

Started 10th I think, just fueled the car up to 100L, seen others do that stratey before with great succes Smiley
It drove pretty horrible but not that bad. H@L9000 did the same strategy I think cause when I pitted one lap later we drove out side by side, while at first I was still close chasing him. Spanner was suddenly like 10 seconds behind insted of in front.

The strategy works, but it gave me a pretty boring race. Hard to keep up with the guys in front, it's like the average F1 race, overtaking in the pit Tongue

Then at one of the last laps my tyres were so horrible and my times were dropping hard, so Spanner could get me on the straight Wink

Overall pretty happy with an almost clean race, only 1 off moment and no spinning Tongue


ps: I was suprised the race ended at lap 43 of 48, guess it does stop at 80 minutes Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2009, 10:24:13 PM +0100 »

Sorry for tap on warm up lap JR. It looks like you caught Dan and I out somehow, just a shame it took Dan off (maybe we are never destined to race each other at Silverstone Dan Embarrassed) Totally our fault for sleeping of course and hope it didn't damage your car.

Dunno how I could catch you out, as that was a known slow corner, even in a formation lap it requirs braking. I checked the replay and don't see it as I've done anything weird. If you do you can send a report.
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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2009, 10:29:11 PM +0100 »

Terrible luck for Picnic, he was going to win that by miles. :'(

I thought I was going to struggle a bit after I missed all my pre-race setup time with a busted HomePlug (bah! technology! taz).

Sure enough I qualified dead last, and slowly but surely the cars ahead eased away.

I can't now remember whether Lazlow fell off before or after the stop, but having failed to catch API despite the Porka's customary lengthy stop, I was having to push a fair bit to keep the gap back to Lazlow to around 10 seconds. This wasn't helped by 57GoldTop's Fezza, which was singularly unable to lap me and pull away, and I was losing so much time that when the gap behind was down to about 6, and the opportunity presented itself courtesy of another car lapping the both of us, I repassed him and proceeded to pulll away angel Grin and then Lazlow was out anyway. Roll Eyes Undecided

In the last 10 minutes I suddenly started gaining on API again, depsite a front left which must've looked like it'd been through a combine harvester. The gap was dropping, dropping, dropping... then Picnic was gone Sad and instead of a battle for 2nd, the class win was tantalisingly close. The gap kept dropping, and whilst I was low on fuel, I had enough for one more lap... but it wasn't enough. Roll Eyes Cheesy
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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2009, 10:29:41 PM +0100 »

As I said, totally our fault JR. Sure you didn't do anything odd but we just cocked up, at least I did anyways. Or, perhaps I'm just faster through that corner  Wink
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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2009, 10:31:17 PM +0100 »

Replay and provisional results posted

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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2009, 10:33:00 PM +0100 »

Decided on a splash&dash strategy which would have worked out nicely if it wasn't for those pesky pitmen. Somehow they didn't put in enough fuel and I had to come in again 2 laps later losing a handful of places Sad

Had some nice battles with Blunder and Matt and a few comedy moments with Dave Smiley Hope I didn't distract you too much.

Congrats to podies.
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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2009, 10:33:26 PM +0100 »

H@L9000 did the same strategy I think cause when I pitted one lap later we drove out side by side, while at first I was still close chasing him.

Yep, same strategy. Grin

I knew I had to apply the pressure before you got some temp in your tyres after that pit stop. We had a nice chase there. Smiley

I was doing OK to start with until I lost it on the S/F straight following Simon. I was distracted by him trying to warm his tyres up. Roll Eyes Dipped the left tyres onto the grass and spun because I kept the power fully down like a numpty. :'(

Nice chase with Jimmie and a few other after that. Smiley

Well done podiums. Gazza gets 3rd. Nice. Go Team. Grin
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« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2009, 06:50:18 AM +0100 »

No i didnt get caught out by you two,  Just had one of them weird low rev spins on cold tires. Roll Eyes  Wasnt sure what the regs were regarding getting back into position so just slotted in behind Simon.   Legzy was the only one kind enough to let me go back past...Cheers mate Wink

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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2009, 06:59:07 AM +0100 »

First of all, sorry to Mr. Blunder for a contact in the pits. I just finished with the pitstop and your stall was directly in front. You were outside my view and I didn't see you come in until contact. Roll Eyes Saw you stopped a bit out of position and I hope your crew didn't object. Smiley

@Stewprovo: thought you were gonna take the F430? I found the porker exquisite and refreshing after grappling with first Gallardo and then Esperante. I had a constant feeling I'm not using the car's potential and that I could go faster. Well, I guess that's true, it takes JonM to put the car on the limit... Smiley  

After a first few laps the race was rather uneventful. Seems like F1, if there's no mistake / disco / freeze the only overtaking goes on in the pits. Tongue

@Shark: saw Legzy flinged over the track in front of you. I bet you flinched like you saw a giant hornet comming at you. lol  

Good job with the Gallardo, boyz. I never could get that car that fast. Smiley

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« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2009, 10:18:42 AM +0100 »

First few laps of this race were very exciting  Shocked  Made a mistake at the first corner on lap 1 which gave Simon a run on me and he got past me down the hanger straight. Got myself back together and started closing him down. He went a little wide after the bridge and i made a move down the inside, there was slight contact but i think it was ok? (havnt seen replay yet). Then i managed to close on TT, my car felt great and i could really push it. Was on TT's bumper for quite a few laps and we had a good dice untill he lost it at Stowe spinning very close to the front of my car  Shocked

Managed to pull away and at the pit stop i chose not to change rear tyres and put new softs on front, this ruined the balance of my car and i had terrible oversteer everywhere so it was quite a job just keeping it on the road. TT was catching me but just had enough gap from the pit stop to keep 3rd.

That was my 100th race here so was really happy with a podium  Cool

Grats Jeff & SBG
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« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2009, 10:41:54 AM +0100 »


@Stewprovo: thought you were gonna take the F430? I found the porker exquisite and refreshing after grappling with first Gallardo and then Esperante. I had a constant feeling I'm not using the car's potential and that I could go faster. Well, I guess that's true, it takes JonM to put the car on the limit... Smiley  


With hindsight, I should have. In the corners, be it slow or fast, the 997 is ok, but when, for instance, I needed Dave in the GT3 350Z to have a big lift on the straight  wheelchair so I could get by, then surely something is not right. I know the classes are fairly close speed wise, but I could only just gain on most cars on the straights, including the GT3's. It just seems to lack a bit of grunt compared to everything else. I want to stay with it as I really do like the way it drives, but whats the point, when you make up a fair bit of ground in the corners, only to lose it all on the straights. I know thats what the balancing was all about, but I found that I was taking more risks going passed people under the brakes, and risking collisions in the process. I suppose the other solution would be to drop into the GT3 Cup 996, but that would leave me no excuses for my carp driving Grin . As for the pits, Simon has put me in the picture on that one, in my red mist moment, I forgot to request the stop for my stop/go, so all my own doing that one Sad
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