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September 27, 2009, 08:38:32 PM +0100 - Anderstorp (GP) - UKGTR Season 10 Lower Endurance
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
JonM_uk
 Team Shark
Ferrari 430 (#70000) GT2 1 1:27.239
103.052mph
1 1:20:29.483
98.660mph
53 1:28.077
102.071mph
Michelin  
Jayblue
 
Ferrari 430 (#410052) GT2 2 +1.136
101.727mph
2 +36.673
97.916mph
53 1:28.898
101.129mph
Michelin  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (#60000) GT2 4 +1.588
101.209mph
3 +1:20.582
97.041mph
53 1:29.428
100.529mph
Michelin  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Ferrari 430 (#110014) GT2 7 +1.993
100.750mph
4 +1L
96.395mph
52 1:29.781
100.134mph
Michelin  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (#800008) GT2 6 +1.890
100.866mph
5 +0.480
96.386mph
52 1:29.690
100.236mph
Michelin  
H@L9000
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW M3 GTR (#880052) GT2 5 +1.888
100.869mph
6 +16.235
96.074mph
52 1:30.275
99.586mph
Michelin  
Gazza49er
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 430 (#410052) GT2 8 +2.026
100.713mph
7 +27.172
95.858mph
52 1:29.702
100.222mph
Michelin  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (#800008) GT2 3 +1.317
101.519mph
8 +43.249
95.543mph
52 1:29.252
100.727mph
Michelin  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (#990057) GT2 10 +2.786
99.863mph
9 +1:10.114
95.022mph
52 1:30.485
99.355mph
Michelin  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 997 GT3-RSR (#840013) GT2 11 +3.363
99.227mph
10 +3L
92.535mph
50 1:32.104
97.608mph
Michelin  
gsi bob
 
BMW M3 GTR (#4142) GT2 13 +4.394
98.110mph
11 +3.267
92.473mph
50 1:31.786
97.947mph
Michelin  
API
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#3113) GT3 15 +5.827
96.600mph
12 +29.451
91.977mph
50 1:34.036
95.603mph
Pirelli  
picnic
 Team Shark
BMW Z3M (#3115) GT3 14 +5.526
96.913mph
13 +1:11.343
91.195mph
50 1:33.565
96.084mph
Michelin  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Panoz Esperante GTLM (#50000) GT2 12 +4.325
98.184mph
14 +4L
91.178mph
49 1:32.027
97.690mph
Michelin  
nsfast
 
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#4121) GT3 16 +6.034
96.385mph
15 +0.599
91.167mph
49 1:34.104
95.534mph
Pirelli  
lazlow
 Team Oldie Racing
BMW Z3M (#940014) GT3 17 +6.068
96.350mph
16 +44.530
90.346mph
49 1:33.819
95.824mph
Michelin  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Nissan 350Z (#990001) GT3 18 +6.472
95.935mph
17 +5L
89.011mph
48 1:34.208
95.429mph
Dunlop  
Ted
 Team Pseudo Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770052) GT3 19 +7.194
95.201mph
18 +32L 21 1:34.645
94.988mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Jure
 Racin24-7
BMW M3 GTR (#4142) GT2 9 +2.586
100.085mph
19 +51L 2 1:33.739
95.906mph
unknown
Michelin  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
GT2
1:27.239
103.052mph
JonM_uk
Qualifying
Ferrari 430September 27, 2009, 08:38:32 PM +0100
U10LE
GTR2
GT2
1:28.077
102.071mph
JonM_uk
Race
Ferrari 430September 27, 2009, 08:38:32 PM +0100
U10LE
GTR2
GT3
1:33.565
96.084mph
picnic
Race
BMW Z3MSeptember 27, 2009, 08:38:32 PM +0100
U10LE
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« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2009, 03:10:30 PM +0100 »

Hi BlueJay and gsi bob, look forward to racing with you Cool

TT I tried everything to tame down this bizarre wondering, I'am considering going back to the 996 or Turbo for the next race Sad 
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« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2009, 03:42:03 PM +0100 »

Lower preload, increase coast?
IIUC, 'Preload' effects the transition between coast & power diffs. I would imagine this wandering was happening in the middle/end of straights, so unlikely that preload would have any effect. And if it did, a higher preload number leads to a smoother transition, so to lower it would just cause a more violent reaction.
Again with coast, that's when your foot is coming off the accelerator, not when it's planted... so again I'd think this is unlikely to help.

If still not working either try decrease front toe-in (towards positive) and/or increase rear toe-in (towards negative).
I agree that a +0.2 would be more likely to help then a -0.2 for front toe, I'm sure I tried that when we started with that car & I don't recall it helping Undecided.
While at the back, I've always been of the understanding that a rear toe measurement of +0.2 would do less wandering then a car with 0.0 rear toe... not the other way around.

My suggestions of things to try one at a time would be:
1: Make rear toe a more positive number (i.e. +1.0 might be worth a try, if it works you can slowly reduce it down).
2: Try increasing front rebound & decreasing rear bump to their maximums. If no effect, then you can disregard them & if it's worse, go the other way.
3: Try increasing front springs & decreasing rear springs.
4: Try increasing front ARB & decreasing rear ARB.
5: Power diff, I can't decide if lowering would be better or raising. Try on 100% & try on 5%, see if either has any effect on the wandering?.
6: After that, you've only really got ride height & aero settings left that effect acceleration.

Having thought about it, I almost fancy jumping back in it to find out myself. laugh
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« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2009, 05:25:33 PM +0100 »

Lower preload, increase coast?
IIUC, 'Preload' effects the transition between coast & power diffs. I would imagine this wandering was happening in the middle/end of straights, so unlikely that preload would have any effect. And if it did, a higher preload number leads to a smoother transition, so to lower it would just cause a more violent reaction.
Again with coast, that's when your foot is coming off the accelerator, not when it's planted... so again I'd think this is unlikely to help.

I was under the assumption that it was mainly there under braking, but if it also happens on the straight then preload won't really change anything yes.
I thought preload works the other way around though (number wise), but I barely notice the difference anyway.
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« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2009, 06:28:39 PM +0100 »

It's there all the way, though it's more noticable on braking as corrections bring more eee, feelable (is this a word? Cheesy ) results.
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« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2009, 07:46:23 PM +0100 »

It's there all the way, though it's more noticable on braking as corrections bring more eee, feelable (is this a word? Cheesy ) results.
Ah, I remembered wrong then  Tongue.
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« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2009, 09:18:38 PM +0100 »

Hi again guys, just working out my race strategy and i have a few questions. At my mandatory pit stop can i just take 2 tyres and no fuel, or just fuel but no tyre change or do i have to do both? Also with regard to the weather will we will running the rather chilly temps they have over in Sweden on the server on race night?
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« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2009, 09:32:20 PM +0100 »

Hi again guys, just working out my race strategy and i have a few questions. At my mandatory pit stop can i just take 2 tyres and no fuel, or just fuel but no tyre change or do i have to do both? Also with regard to the weather will we will running the rather chilly temps they have over in Sweden on the server on race night?

I'm actually not sure, but if I'm correct you only need to stop and what you do else is your own decision Smiley

To be competitive you need new tyres anyway and no car can make it without a bit of refueling.
Did anyone ever try hards for 80 minutes?
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« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2009, 09:35:39 PM +0100 »

Jay, you need to stop & either change one set of tyres or take on 1ltr.
You can obviously do both or more, but that's the minimum.

p.s. you can be competitive in some cars with just a "minimum pitstop"  shiftywhistling
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« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2009, 09:40:03 PM +0100 »

Hi again guys, just working out my race strategy and i have a few questions. At my mandatory pit stop can i just take 2 tyres and no fuel, or just fuel but no tyre change or do i have to do both? Also with regard to the weather will we will running the rather chilly temps they have over in Sweden on the server on race night?

Just out in max fuel at the start and refuel if you need and take 4 new shoes Smiley.

There is a minimum temperature they use here to prevent freezing leven, so it won't be too low.
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« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2009, 09:49:38 PM +0100 »

Did anyone ever try hards for 80 minutes?

Some GT1s need hard rears just to go 40 minutes. At the vast majority of tracks, hards in the slower classes cost for too much in lap time to have a hope of making up the difference by not changing them in the stop.
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« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2009, 09:50:46 PM +0100 »

Hi again guys, just working out my race strategy and i have a few questions. At my mandatory pit stop can i just take 2 tyres and no fuel, or just fuel but no tyre change or do i have to do both? Also with regard to the weather will we will running the rather chilly temps they have over in Sweden on the server on race night?

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I think the link below may help with testing temps  Smiley

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5145.0
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« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2009, 10:55:47 PM +0100 »

Hi again guys, just working out my race strategy and i have a few questions. At my mandatory pit stop can i just take 2 tyres and no fuel, or just fuel but no tyre change or do i have to do both? Also with regard to the weather will we will running the rather chilly temps they have over in Sweden on the server on race night?

Jay

I think the link below may help with testing temps  Smiley

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=5145.0

Thanks that's helped out. Mostly ready for the race now, just a few decisions on tyres and fuel to make but i'm happy with my pace.
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« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2009, 05:33:13 AM +0100 »

I'm never happy with my pace. Cheesy  Always an alien comes by and shatters my castle in the clouds. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #43 on: September 25, 2009, 04:49:43 PM +0100 »

To make you happier TT, my race pace is mid 28's. Be on late tonight to improve on that hopefully Smiley
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« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2009, 08:20:35 PM +0100 »

Race Start Time: 18:00 (sunset race).

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