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  • P1T Mid-America: November 03, 2009
November 03, 2009, 08:43:39 PM +0000 - Mid-America (Full) - UKPnG Version 2 Season 1 Clubmans Tokens
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
lazlow
 Team Oldie Racing
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63012) P&G Group 3 O2L 4 +0.244
79.438mph
1 39:46.859
78.425mph
23 1:42.085
79.725mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Prodigy Racing
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63015) P&G Group 3 O2L 6 +0.503
79.237mph
2 +0.221
78.418mph
23 1:42.088
79.723mph
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63012) P&G Group 3 O2L 1 1:42.210
79.627mph
3 +15.425
77.922mph
23 1:42.670
79.271mph
Dunlop  
lelero
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 5 +0.345
79.360mph
4 +19.237
77.798mph
23 1:43.091
78.947mph
Dunlop  
Josè Arrogantio
 
Ferrari 275 GTB/C (#67028) P&G Group 3 O2L 3 +0.239
79.442mph
5 +49.387
76.836mph
23 1:42.655
79.282mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Shelby GT350R (#67018) P&G Group 3 O2L 8 +1.604
78.397mph
6 +50.205
76.810mph
23 1:44.244
78.074mph
Goodyear  
Manteos
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 2 +0.198
79.473mph
7 +51.205
76.778mph
23 1:42.797
79.173mph
Dunlop  
Tim Robey
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63015) P&G Group 3 O2L 11 +2.055
78.058mph
8 +1:01.026
76.470mph
23 1:44.450
77.920mph
Dunlop  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Jaguar E-Type (#62011) P&G Group 3 O2L 9 +1.717
78.312mph
9 +1:04.271
76.369mph
23 1:44.293
78.037mph
Dunlop  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Alfa Romeo 1600 GTA (#67045) P&G Group 2 15 +3.101
77.283mph
10 +1:13.170
76.093mph
23 1:45.394
77.222mph
Dunlop  
Mcfids
 Team Pseudo Racing
Jaguar E-Type (#64004) P&G Group 3 O2L 17 +3.684
76.857mph
11 +1:31.334
75.535mph
23 1:45.154
77.398mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Alfa Romeo GTA Volumetrico (#68050) P&G Group 5 7 +0.931
78.909mph
12 +1:31.685
75.524mph
23 1:43.780
78.423mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Ford Mustang Gr2 (#66001) P&G Group 2 14 +2.939
77.402mph
13 +1:33.024
75.484mph
23 1:45.836
76.899mph
Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Alfa Romeo GTA Volumetrico (#68050) P&G Group 5 10 +2.035
78.073mph
14 +1:34.191
75.448mph
23 1:44.925
77.567mph
Dunlop  
API
 Team Oldie Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 12 +2.637
77.625mph
15 +1:43.272
75.173mph
23 1:45.040
77.482mph
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63016) P&G Group 3 O2L 16 +1L
74.883mph
22 1:45.278
77.307mph
Dunlop  
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Chevrolet Corvette C2 coupe (#65005) P&G Group 3 O2L 18 +3.935
76.675mph
17 +6.689
74.674mph
22 1:47.042
76.033mph
Goodyear  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Ford Mustang Gr2 (#66077) P&G Group 2 19 +5.929
75.262mph
18 +1:08.060
72.810mph
22 1:47.404
75.777mph
Goodyear  
LigelC
 Team Shark
Shelby Cobra 289 (#63014) P&G Group 3 O2L 16 +3.525
76.973mph
19 +1:11.586
72.706mph
22 1:47.127
75.973mph
Dunlop  
[POOdle]Keith
 
Chevrolet Corvette C2 roadster (#69011) P&G Group 3 O2L 21 +6.459
74.895mph
20 +1:23.382
72.359mph
22 1:49.001
74.666mph
Dunlop  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Jaguar E-Type (#64004) P&G Group 3 O2L 22 +8.718
73.369mph
21 +1:50.540
71.574mph
22 1:49.006
74.663mph
Dunlop  
PippoPelo
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Renault Alpine A110 (#68051) P&G Group 3 U2L 20 +6.052
75.176mph
22 +3L 20 1:48.493
75.016mph
suspension
Dunlop  
(VDA)KING
 Virtual Drivers Alliance
Renault Alpine A110 (#68061) P&G Group 3 U2L 13 +2.934
77.405mph
23 +14L 9 1:46.384
76.503mph
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Matt, Tony and Chris have sorted the strange case of the errant chat message out via the incident reports and I completely accept Matt's explanation. Nothing more to say on this one.


Server replay time: 2534s

It is the very last part of the race. Manteos has been seeking a way past Jose for half a dozen or so laps and Jose has not been making this task at all easy. Manteos makes one last desperate effort to outbrake Jose and ends up making contact. Jose keeps his place but Manteos in his frustration loses many more places when the game does not see him finish well off the 'normal' line.
As Jose has requested no penalty, I shall rule a racing incident. Returning Manteos to his 7th place is beyond my remit but I shall pm Legzy and request he looks at the replay now that there will be no other penalty. (No promises about the outcome I'm afraid).

  • Racing incident

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
P&G Group 2
1:45.149
77.402mph
Legzy
Qualifying
Ford Mustang Gr2November 03, 2009, 08:43:39 PM +0000
P1T
GTR2
P&G Group 2
1:45.394
77.222mph
Paul968
Race
Alfa Romeo 1600 GTANovember 03, 2009, 08:43:39 PM +0000
P1T
GTR2
P&G Group 3 U2L
1:42.408
79.473mph
Manteos
Qualifying
Renault Alpine A110November 03, 2009, 08:43:39 PM +0000
P1T
GTR2
P&G Group 3 U2L
1:42.797
79.173mph
Manteos
Race
Renault Alpine A110November 03, 2009, 08:43:39 PM +0000
P1T
GTR2
P&G Group 3 O2L
1:42.210
79.627mph
Tibernius
Qualifying
Shelby Cobra 289November 03, 2009, 08:43:39 PM +0000
P1T
GTR2
P&G Group 3 O2L
1:42.085
79.725mph
lazlow
Race
Shelby Cobra 289November 03, 2009, 08:43:39 PM +0000
P1T
GTR2
P&G Group 5
1:43.141
78.909mph
phspok
Qualifying
Alfa Romeo GTA VolumetricoNovember 03, 2009, 08:43:39 PM +0000
P1T
GTR2
P&G Group 5
1:43.780
78.423mph
phspok
Race
Alfa Romeo GTA VolumetricoNovember 03, 2009, 08:43:39 PM +0000
P1T
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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2009, 09:41:44 PM +0000 »

Well that was great in parts, painfull in others
Had trouble with brake bias all practice, thought it was about right, but after a few laps the back was all over
if I braked hard, seemed to rememember that brake bias was [ and ] so drove with keys on lap trying to
keep up a good pace, got in Manteos' way with my variable braking, he spun once to avoid me, so
after a while I pulled over to let him past, and see if I could change brakes, maybe did not sure
but as I came onto the S/F straight I put the keyboard back on top of the PC only to press " + "
apparently this jumps you into the car in front  Shocked had no idea what I had pressed as the PC is above
head height, so driving blind, turned slightly right and braked.... when I finally figured out what had happened
I was sat on the grass in 13th. got going again, had some fun chasing but got stuck behind Kobayashi in a
yank tank went off with dodgy brakes and no room to maneouver, finally passed, and almost got past a jag
in the final section, but he lost it a bit, and had to lift to avoid, ah well, mostly a fun one.
Great track for this league, well done chaps.
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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2009, 09:44:40 PM +0000 »

Didn't think it was going to be that good but oh boy I was really wrong about that. Hat's off to you Chris, that was almost the close racing nirvana you've been seeking, racing gold mate, racing gold.

Sorry to the folk I rubbed, tapped and variously abused but I'm not used to company and you were all perfect gentlemen and carried on regardless. If you feel a telling off is in order please don't hold back. In my defence I'll just say that my idea off close racing is seeing the next car in front outlined on the horizon.

Witnessed some really pleasing driving and Lazlow giving back the lead to Pribeiro really summed up for me the very essence of what we strive for in SROUK.
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« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2009, 10:05:01 PM +0000 »

Replay and provisional results posted

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« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2009, 11:18:03 PM +0000 »

great fun that was  Smiley

Didnt expect anything results wise as only downloaded the track at 8.10pm ! and had never done a lap here before and ive just spent a week on a beach in paradise  Wink

Took the Transam mustang as didnt have any time to try out another car. It felt okay but a real barge in the tighter corners.

Race was a real battle, never got higher than 16th but was stuck in a position changing fight with about 5 cars for most of the race. Got tapped around a couple of times by over enthusiastic Alpine drivers but otherwise good clean fun. I also boinked Ligel twice, first one my fault, 2nd he appeared to almost stop mid track well before the next set of corners and i thumped him up the jacksy hard  Shocked but sorry anyway. Fell off twice costing me places..almost as much time lost as being stuck behind Poodle for half a lap tonight laugh how slow was that car in the corners ?!!

Great track, we must use that again, it seemed to allow for plenty of overtaking and side slides. Cool
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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2009, 11:36:16 PM +0000 »

Another great mix of cars/track tonight and some excellent hard fought racing Smiley

Felt quietly confident about the race as the 4 speed E-Type felt great round here; just the right ratios as opposed to the 5 speed which for me seemed to be inbetween all the time. Had it handling well and made few mistakes....until the lights went out of course Hit with a wet fish

Had some close battles with Matt, Manteos and Tim all in different cars and all stronger/weaker in different parts of the track which made it really enjoyable. Might have sneaked a couple more places had it not been for my grass cutting excursions, but happy to finish top 10.

Congrats to pody and bring on Riverside!
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« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2009, 12:19:54 AM +0000 »


I enjoyed that!  Grin

The first few laps were hectic, with some bumps and nudges, lost a few places... but made good use of the Cobra's grunt to get the places back.

Spent most of the race trying to chase Ade down, but I just couldn't catch him and with Goldtop breathing down my neck which made it interesting at the end when trying to lap 4 cars that were racin' hard, but got safely through!

Had some close battles with Matt, Manteos and Tim all in different cars and all stronger/weaker in different parts of the track which made it really enjoyable. Might have sneaked a couple more places had it not been for my grass cutting excursions, but happy to finish top 10.

You gave me a scare after one of your wild excursions! But you just got the car back just as I passed! Phew  Shocked

Nice track Legzy, I thought the track would be dull but was fun & challenging  clap

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« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2009, 12:54:52 AM +0000 »

What a shame... after the 3rd or the 4th tap I give this evening, at the last corner of the last lap I decided to throw my self into the grass to cut the finish line... but for the game I didn't pass the finish line, and then the result is a last place...
I was a bit angry beacause it was too difficult to fight with such a different car, and even if I was faster on pace, Jose kept me behind him for the last 6-7 laps, giving me more than a second on the straight, and remainig blocked on the best driving line. I had to try something dangerous to overtake him in the first part of the track, because I knew that I had to put a margin of more than 1 second to avoid to be passed again on the straight, but there were no chances due to the "extreme defense" of Jose.
Anyway I had some good fight with someone of you before to arrive to Jose, and even the duel with Goldtop and Matt Rowe was very interesting but I had the same troubles as the battle with Jose. Once you get passed with the Alpine, you are dead in this circuit  death... I had to wait their mistakes to overcome both drivers. And then I arrived early to Jose, but you already know this story Smiley
Finally, what can I say...I'm an idiot! I was a bit nervous, and I excuse with Jose for the 2 tap and Goldtop for another tap, but that was the only way to have some chances of a better result with such a different car. Anyway the least i could do was to wait you every time I made a mistake, and I hope that was fair enough for you Smiley.
See you for the last battle with a great head on head between Lele and Lalzow (same tokens and same points   ...unbelievable), but with a richer driver as Legzy, and another Monster driver as Paul, that will surely be ready to take advantage of any mistakes of the 2 contenders! Great stuff!
Get ready for the final round!
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« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2009, 05:49:02 AM +0000 »

Fantastic evenings racing - probably my best since PnG started.  Spent most of my time battling away with MJ and Poodle (who I'd normally only see when they lap me) and yes there were a few taps but that's racing in close company.  Tend to agree with MJ in that a couple of the Alpine drivers were a tad aggressive at time, but I guess that's youth.  Anyway I have no complaint and as said earlier I had a fantastic 22 laps.

Congratulations to the podium and heartfelt thanks to everyone who contributed to a great night.

To Legzy and Tony: I have said it before "You are doing a great job running the show" I raise my hat to you.

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« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2009, 07:26:08 AM +0000 »

Why I can't find more than an hours practice time in 2 weeks is really starting to grate!  :'(
Quickly tried the Stang but was a bit slow, jumped in the z06 and was immediately quicker so tried to fine tune that.
Qualified 18th but made up loads of places at the start.
At one point there was 5 of us in a close battle round corner after corner!
That was good fun!
After that, my lack of pace and tyre wear saw me go backwards  :'(
Nothing I could do about it!

Obviously a good race for most and I did have some close racing at the start so no complaints!
Lack of practice always equals lack of race enjoyment!
How many times I have to learn that same old lesson, I don't know!

Thanks all

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« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2009, 08:42:34 AM +0000 »

Hope turn out is good..only been away a short while and those pesky no show Legends turn up with their fancy IR gatecrashing our tuesdays  Wink

No show Legends Roll Eyes

Hope your honeymoon was good .... you should pop by the Legends forum and let us know how it all went.
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« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2009, 09:19:52 AM +0000 »



You gave me a scare after one of your wild excursions! But you just got the car back just as I passed! Phew  Shocked



Yes, that was a close one Tim - I just managed to skew it at the wrong time. Send me the laundry bill Cheesy


Finally, what can I say...I'm an idiot! I was a bit nervous, and I excuse with Jose for the 2 tap and Goldtop for another tap, but that was the only way to have some chances of a better result with such a different car. Anyway the least i could do was to wait you every time I made a mistake, and I hope that was fair enough for you Smiley.


No problem Manteos. I was keeping it tight into the corners so it was always going to be difficult to pass.
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« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2009, 10:46:01 AM +0000 »

It is a joy and brilliant, these different car power/handle/physics races. Just like the 60's and 70's spirit.
Those drivers in those ages must had lots of fun undoubtedly.  Cheesy

My car choice was a bit a shot in the dark. My first races strategy was sparing Tokens, now I can spend
a bit and it reflects the final results. It's fun because after 4 races I was in 20th and now I jumped to 9th.

Thank you master Legzy and master Tony. Both GTL and P&G has been very enjoyable.   yes

No time to practice (dinner time as usual, can we start a bit later next seasons, pleeeeeeeease?)  Grin

After 3 qualifying laps I got a decent 6th place, which gave me confidence to achieve first corner
a few places ahead due to Cobra's power. It went well as I was in 2nd after 1st corner.
In fact, Lazlow allowed me to reach that place without fighting.
From there, I was following Tibernius and defending from Lazlow and Jose's Ferrari.
Intense battle with all. A few minutes later Tibs went wide and we passed him.
I'm not sure, but I guess Lazlow and me were in hard fight for almost 30 minutes of superb fun.
Ahhhhh...always with huge fairplay. And I must take my hat off to Lazlow when I spun, when I lapped
a backmarker. Lazlow wait for me and gave me back the race lead!  I Am Not Worthy
Before finish I gave Lazlow the same kindness, I do believe you deserved the win mate. Well done!

Gentleman and big fairplay spirit, as has always been at SROUK.  thumbup1

Congrats Lazlow and Tibernius for the pole and 3rd place.  Wink

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« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2009, 12:29:48 PM +0000 »

We are unhappy about swear words (albeit disguised) being typed using the games chat facility during a race (if you have a problem, use the incident report system after race) & we are acting on it.
SROUK will not tolerate any such decline in our usual high standards, of which you should all be aware.

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« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2009, 02:48:25 PM +0000 »

On a happier note Smiley :

I jumped in the Mustang TransAM (I recommend this car to anyone for 'a tank you can drive') & qualified pretty well (14th).
"Used the force" to gain myself a handful of places & was hanging off the back of Goldtop in 9th for a couple of laps before I managed to put a couple of wheels on the outside kerb as I drifted quite a bit a lot wide & spun her & recovered the 360 immediately (in a dukes of hazard type style maneuver)... I was immediately swallowed up by the close knit chasing pack of Keith, Tim, API & Paul (all of us in a different car to the others) & we went at it for a couple of laps ti it was just Paul & I. Well I used every ounce of muscle the Stang had & blocked where I could, but with each passing lap Paul would get closer & closer to getting ahead & then when he did manage it, he had to fend me off for a couple more laps before I couldn't sustain it any longer  sweatdrop

Had a couple of laps to rest & recover myself & then Matt started catching me at a couple of seconds a lap & we had a few good laps together with me on maximum defence mode angel which allowed McFids to catch up & join the party too Grin What a great finish to the race it was as in turn they both slipped past me before the finish line. Great racing all.

Congrats to Lazlow on the win, PR for being a true gent & everyone for the variety of cars on the grid.


Do you know what... I thought the last race (at Watkins) was brilliant & would be hard to beat, but Mid-America has done it. For me this was our best race to date in PnG land Cool. Can't wait for the Riverside finale.
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« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2009, 02:55:06 PM +0000 »



Do you know what... I thought the last race (at Watkins) was brilliant & would be hard to beat, but Mid-America has done it. For me this was our best race to date in PnG land Cool. Can't wait for the Riverside finale.

I completely agree!  Smiley
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