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  • P1 Donington Park: December 15, 2009
December 15, 2009, 08:44:29 PM +0000 - Donington Park (National) - UKPnG Version 2 Season 1
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 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Mike Miller
 Kerb Crawlers
Jaguar MkII (#62007) P&G Group 2 3 +0.459
81.420mph
1 38:21.241
80.554mph
26 1:27.457
81.524mph
Dunlop  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
FIAT Abarth TC1000 Gr5 (#69041) P&G Group 5 1 1:27.109
81.849mph
2 +1.721
80.494mph
26 1:27.284
81.685mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#69030) P&G Group 2 2 +0.001
81.848mph
3 +13.975
80.068mph
26 1:27.526
81.459mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Jaguar MkII (#62007) P&G Group 2 6 +1.116
80.814mph
4 +20.279
79.851mph
26 1:27.800
81.205mph
Dunlop  
API
 Team Oldie Racing
FIAT Abarth TC1000 Gr5 (#68057) P&G Group 5 5 +1.071
80.855mph
5 +21.423
79.811mph
26 1:27.801
81.204mph
Dunlop  
Josè Arrogantio
 Team Oldie Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#65021) P&G Group 2 4 +0.710
81.187mph
6 +56.238
78.633mph
26 1:29.326
79.818mph
Dunlop  
seniordan
 
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#65022) P&G Group 2 7 +56.515
78.623mph
26 1:28.709
80.373mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Renault Alpine A110 (#65006) P&G Group 3 U2L 10 +2.440
79.619mph
8 +1:00.732
78.483mph
26 1:28.731
80.353mph
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#65069) P&G Group 2 8 +1.908
80.095mph
9 +1:11.364
78.131mph
26 1:28.748
80.338mph
Dunlop  
Bully
 Crash 'N' Burn Racing
FIAT Abarth TC1000 Gr5 (#69038) P&G Group 5 9 +2.253
79.786mph
10 +1:23.751
77.726mph
26 1:29.211
79.921mph
Dunlop  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin Mini Cooper 970S (#65071) P&G Group 2 11 +2.866
79.242mph
11 +1:27.139
77.615mph
26 1:30.387
78.881mph
Dunlop  
Tim Robey
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
FIAT Abarth TC1000 Gr5 (#68057) P&G Group 5 12 +3.451
78.730mph
12 +1L
77.029mph
25 1:29.526
79.639mph
Dunlop  
pribeiro
 Prodigy Racing
Ford Cortina GT (#6422) P&G Group 2 13 +4.497
77.831mph
13 +14.604
76.546mph
25 1:31.002
78.348mph
Dunlop  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
FIAT Abarth TC1000 Gr5 (#69041) P&G Group 5 14 +4.668
77.686mph
14 +52.825
75.310mph
25 1:32.543
77.043mph
Dunlop  
jpv
 Kerb Crawlers
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#65069) P&G Group 2 16 +7.450
75.401mph
15 +13L 13 1:32.680
76.929mph
unknown
Dunlop  
lazlow
 Team Oldie Racing
FIAT Abarth TC1000 Gr5 (#69038) P&G Group 5 7 +1.789
80.202mph
16 +14L 12 1:27.590
81.400mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Prodigy Racing
FIAT Abarth TC1000 Gr5 (#68057) P&G Group 5 17 +16L 10 1:30.755
78.561mph
unknown
Dunlop  
jimmer
 
Austin Mini Cooper 1275S (#69030) P&G Group 2 18 +20L 6 1:33.746
76.054mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Eddie Meyer
 Kerb Crawlers
Jaguar MkII (#62007) P&G Group 2 15 +4.858
77.526mph
19 +24L 2 1:31.293
78.098mph
suspension
Dunlop  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
P&G Group 3 U2L
1:29.549
79.619mph
Legzy
Qualifying
Renault Alpine A110December 15, 2009, 08:44:29 PM +0000
P1
GTR2
P&G Group 3 U2L
1:28.731
80.353mph
Legzy
Race
Renault Alpine A110December 15, 2009, 08:44:29 PM +0000
P1
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« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2009, 11:24:56 AM +0000 »

Looks like the grid will consist of Jags, Abarths and 1275 Minis. It's a pity about the tina GT being off pace, because personally I enjoy driving that car. On the other hand I think the Lotus will eat the field judging by the few laps I've driven.

The 970 Mini and the GT tina should be close fun racing should a few decide to forget any chances of a pody. I'm up for the 970 if anyone else fancies it Wink
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« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2009, 11:27:23 AM +0000 »

I am more a fan of the GT cars but these touring cars do come into their own for the classic British clubmans track and would make a great little series using places like Cadwell, Doni, Brands, Crystal palace etc with a little bit of mixed weather in the mix  Cool
No comment Lips Sealed Wink

On the other hand I think the Lotus will eat the field judging by the few laps I've driven.
Yup, that's what I found. The ford version is closer.

Not sure who here said the tinas were understeery but you must be using the default setup.
Spot on MJ, Tina felt quite decent drive to me.
With regards the Alpine A110, if anyone tried it & thought it a little lacking... make the following changes to start bringing it to life:
Front Ride Height = Ruduce to the minimum 12cm (from 16cm)
Rear Ride Height = Increase by one click 12.5cm (from 12cm)
Front Camber = Increase to maximum negative number -1.0deg (from 0.0deg)
Front Toe = Change to 0.00deg (from 0.20deg)
Rear Toe = Change to 0.00deg (from 0.40deg)
Front ARB = Increase to the maximum 2.20cm (from 2.00)
Front Springs = Increase a click to 50n (from 40)
Front Slow Rebound = Reduce to 1 (from 3)
Rear Slow Bump = Increase to 3 (from 1)
Rear Slow Rebound = Increase to 2 (from 1)
Gear Ratio = Reduce to shortest gear ratio (8/33)

Think that was about it... I thought it was a good fun drive. Gutted I'm out tomorrow Sad

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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2009, 07:50:18 PM +0000 »

Aww crap i just noticed this race is tomorrow eve and i am out :'( ...i thought we had swapped P&G to thursdays now so was hoping i was just missing an Iracing event ...humph  Sad  So glad i stayed up until half eleven praccying last night  Roll Eyes

Gutted, have a good 'un boys.
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« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2009, 08:02:07 PM +0000 »

I don't have snow tires Wink as an option in my Jag. I've raced in the snow for real at VIR (Virgina International Raceway). It was interesting to say the least. No snow stuck to the ground, but the track was wet and cold. Can GTR2 simulate conditions like this (cold and wet/damp)?
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« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2009, 08:48:04 PM +0000 »

Aww crap i just noticed this race is tomorrow eve and i am out :'( ...i thought we had swapped P&G to thursdays now so was hoping i was just missing an Iracing event
Sorry about the misunderstanding MJ... to clear it up, PnG will be on Thursday's starting in 2010

On a plus note, I have just had my plans for the night cancelled & so I'll be able to race here now Grin Grin Grin

Can GTR2 simulate conditions like this (cold and wet/damp)?
yes, within reason. We can't recreate snow/ice for you... but some tracks are designed as snowy for example (try downloading "Winter Dragon" if you want a giggle Wink).
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« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2009, 08:57:33 PM +0000 »

I've tried Winter Dragon. That is a nightmare track. I was half tempted to memorize it and take a stab at a hot lap. It is a little over the top though. Another winter track is the latest Bull Run. It also set in the mountains with snow/ice runoff. This however is a cool track that can be very competitive with online racing. It is very high speed and very wide with some banked turns. Check it out one of these days.
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« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2009, 09:36:35 PM +0000 »

Don't forget Sears point snowy

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=1035
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« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2009, 06:26:49 PM +0000 »

Work and kids keep getting in the way of my fun. I may not be able to make it again today. The time zone difference makes it tough for me. I'll try again the next time around. I was really looking forward to this event because the preliminary testing proved the 4.2 Jag, 1275 Mini and Group5 Abarth to be very competitive and close.
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« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2009, 07:21:21 PM +0000 »

Come on now Mike. You know the drill. Simracing first, family second. It's the only way to stay sane.  angel
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« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2009, 07:21:39 PM +0000 »

Don't do this to me Mike!  Sad Was really looking forward to battling your tank of a Jag  Smiley
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« Reply #40 on: December 15, 2009, 09:30:45 PM +0000 »

really enjoyed that tonight, had some good close scrapping.

I'd be interested in everyone's thoughts on seeing these cars more often please?
I certainly think that the Abarth/Mini/Jag/Alpine are very close. There are a couple of other "slower car combo's" I think we should try out too... on similar type tracks.
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« Reply #41 on: December 15, 2009, 09:38:13 PM +0000 »

It's my favourite combo (Matt ducks from all the flying bottles and cans) as long as (as MJ said) that it is at "suitable" tracks
Donny works, Brands probly would some of the tighter American tracks like Sears Point would be good.
For the faster tracks then the GT cars are much better of course.

Good race tonight managed to not completely fall off anywhere, almost got caught by API on the next to last
as I went wide in the old hairpin, who was very polite not to try anything hazardous  Smiley
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« Reply #42 on: December 15, 2009, 10:18:46 PM +0000 »

There are plenty of tracks with nice layouts for these underpowered cars.
There are several 2 to 3 kilometers Australian tracks, can remember also Knockhill, Albi 67,
Westwood 88.

I found these cars very enjoyable to race. Cortina GT will match better perhaps with Abarth GR2,
Healey MKI and MKII, Jaguar MKII 3.4 and Lotus Elite, I guess.

Bring more races like this one please.  Wink
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« Reply #43 on: December 15, 2009, 10:59:20 PM +0000 »

Replay and results done
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« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2009, 11:12:48 PM +0000 »

I love these so called underpowered cars Smiley

A Mini Cooper was my dream car when I was a kid, so any opportunity to race them here is going to keep me smiling.
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