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January 14, 2010, 08:46:24 PM +0000 - Dubai (National) - UKPnG Version 2 Season 2
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Mike Miller
 Kerb Crawlers
Chevrolet Corvette C2 coupe (#66009) P&G Group 3 O2L 2 +0.131
82.292mph
1 41:17.772
80.724mph
25 1:37.766
81.834mph
Firestone  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 275 GTB/C Speciale (#66015) P&G Group 3 O2L 3 +0.548
81.941mph
2 +0.434
80.710mph
25 1:37.827
81.783mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 914/6 GT (#71005) P&G Special 1 1:37.091
82.403mph
3 +0.757
80.699mph
25 1:37.928
81.699mph
Firestone  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Elan 26R (#66121) P&G Group 3 U2L 4 +0.730
81.788mph
4 +8.890
80.435mph
25 1:38.209
81.465mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Chevrolet Corvette C2 coupe (#66009) P&G Group 3 O2L 5 +1.469
81.175mph
5 +37.630
79.516mph
25 1:38.728
81.037mph
Firestone  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 275 GTB/C Speciale (#66015) P&G Group 3 O2L 7 +2.123
80.640mph
6 +47.243
79.214mph
25 1:39.277
80.589mph
Dunlop  
TinMan
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 914/6 GT (#71019) P&G Special 9 +2.424
80.396mph
7 +48.097
79.187mph
25 1:39.454
80.446mph
Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Porsche 914/6 GT (#70088) P&G Special 6 +1.508
81.143mph
8 +1:25.952
78.018mph
25 1:39.701
80.246mph
Dunlop  
API
 Team Oldie Racing
Lotus Elan 26R (#64054) P&G Group 3 U2L 12 +3.959
79.175mph
9 +1L
77.044mph
24 1:41.326
78.959mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 914/6 GT (#70040) P&G Special 10 +1.897
76.986mph
24 1:40.907
79.287mph
Goodyear  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 914/6 GT (#70040) P&G Special 14 +8.794
75.560mph
11 +3L 22 1:46.119
75.393mph
unknown
Goodyear  
pribeiro
 Prodigy Racing
Shelby Daytona Coupe (#65056) P&G Group 3 O2L 11 +3.256
79.730mph
12 +10L 15 1:40.674
79.471mph
DQ
Goodyear  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 914/6 GT (#71059) P&G Special 8 +2.274
80.518mph
13 +15L 10 1:39.282
80.585mph
suspension
Goodyear  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 914/6 GT (#70040) P&G Special 10 +2.544
80.299mph
14 +16L 9 1:39.551
80.367mph
suspension
Goodyear  
purdie
 Racin24-7
Ferrari 275 GTB/C Speciale (#66015) P&G Group 3 O2L 13 +7.267
76.665mph
15 +21L 4 1:43.090
77.608mph
suspension
Dunlop  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
P&G Group 3 U2L
1:37.821
81.788mph
Paul968
Qualifying
Lotus Elan 26RJanuary 14, 2010, 08:46:24 PM +0000
P2
GTR2
P&G Group 3 U2L
1:38.209
81.465mph
Paul968
Race
Lotus Elan 26RJanuary 14, 2010, 08:46:24 PM +0000
P2
GTR2
P&G Group 3 O2L
1:37.222
82.292mph
Mike Miller
Qualifying
Chevrolet Corvette C2 coupeJanuary 14, 2010, 08:46:24 PM +0000
P2
GTR2
P&G Group 3 O2L
1:37.766
81.834mph
Mike Miller
Race
Chevrolet Corvette C2 coupeJanuary 14, 2010, 08:46:24 PM +0000
P2
GTR2
P&G Special
1:37.091
82.403mph
Mark J
Qualifying
Porsche 914/6 GTJanuary 14, 2010, 08:46:24 PM +0000
P2
GTR2
P&G Special
1:37.928
81.699mph
Mark J
Race
Porsche 914/6 GTJanuary 14, 2010, 08:46:24 PM +0000
P2
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« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2010, 11:38:47 AM +0000 »

No rain dancing here Clive, it's a dry race.

I saw Paul practicing in the Elan & reckon he could upset your prediction if he manages not to get too swamped off the line... then he will likely be making SBG work very hard up the front end in his L88. I would imagine MJ in a 914 will be keeping them company & probably a couple of our Italian friends in Fezza's. Always a few surprises likely too. Grin

I'm hoping for a decent mid pack race myself, I'll be in the 914 banging out regular 40's, hoping to finally break into the 39's Smiley (or maybe the F275s if it's been left out Undecided)
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« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2010, 11:45:41 AM +0000 »

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p.s. We will definitely be having a 914 only spec race scheduled in this season, should that info help any of the fastest drivers choose not to take it at Dubai this time. Smiley

Very fair, however last races I only saw the fastest drivers chose the faster cars (which is fair also,
they are selectable). As for me and I don't want to blow my own trompet (I hope this setence is right) Grin
I will not chose the 914, the 275 neither the L88 (the supposed faster cars). I have spent last season
trying not to chose the faster cars or the ones that would suit better to each kind of track,
but if this season, the faster drivers carry on on chosing faster cars, I'm affraid I will begin to make
the same choice.  Smiley
Anyway, sometimes I wonder myself if Tokens weren't a good option...

The consensus after last season was that people didn't want fast drivers in slower cars, so it's not surprising to see people taking what they like to drive. My only concern is when one car seems too quick or too slow for the group. Nobody wants to see a fast driver take a dominant car and win easily.

With this system there is only a small group of cars to choose from, and every driver is going to have his/her favourites. I will just pick a car that I enjoy driving, as long as it is fairly competitive. Looks like I can race tonight now, so I'll probably take the elan and try to pester the L88 monsters into a few mistakes.
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« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2010, 11:50:05 AM +0000 »

  Looks like I can race tonight now, so I'll probably take the elan and try to pester the L88 monsters into a few mistakes.

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 I might join you in the Elan. Let's annoy those monsters...(I mean, if I manage to have the pace for that).  shifty
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« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2010, 12:00:00 PM +0000 »

Tried the 914, Elan & Daytona & am equally slow (1.41s+) in all of them so I won't be troubling the sharp end of the grid here. That chicane/link piece is awful, really ruins an otherwise quite good track.
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« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2010, 12:27:29 PM +0000 »

........................ That chicane/link piece is awful, really ruins an otherwise quite good track.

Agreed!

I think Legzy has promised the full track during season 2 proper and I think I will enjoy that.
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« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2010, 12:31:34 PM +0000 »

I quote Ian and Paul regarding the car choice, particularly in a fun event, everyone have to choose the car in which he enjoy more!
In the last fun event I think the Abarth was the 3rd strongest car, after the Mustang and the Alfa junior, and I saw not much of the "slower" people taking these cars... and the theory says that if the fast drivers would have taken the same cars of the slower, the result would have been the same...
Most of you choose to take a slower car, even if the laptimes were widely known... it's a matter of taste! I had one of the best fight in my P&G "career" with Paul and lentolo (my VDA friend), and Lentolo that is surely a bit slower than me and Paul with P&G, fit perfectly our pace with the Alfa Junior... that was the only way to get a close race for me, when I saw Paul with the Abarth, Mike and Ian with the stang, and lentolo with the Alfa, I knew that I would have fight during all the race at least with 3 of them... for me that was enough funny!  
About the Dubai race, unfortunately 6 of us are engaged with the ROTW P&G championship, and lele in GTRItalia champ... I think that no one of VDA can make this one Sad... That means no Fezza for us Smiley
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« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2010, 01:15:37 PM +0000 »

I'm tempted by the Ferrari, it is sweet handling  Smiley
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« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2010, 02:28:38 PM +0000 »

From viewing some of the 914/L88 laps last night and looking at the timings, I reckon tonight's race promises to be close throughout.

It looks like the faster guys will be taking the more (for various reasons) challenging cars: L88/Elan/275 which is to their credit, leaving the rest of us to battle it out with our preferred choices. 914/275/Elan drivers who wish to challenge at the front will need to find a way through the L88s (or make time) in the middle sector which should create excellent racing.

I don't think anyone should feel awkward about taking the 914. I'm taking it because it's the only car I've really concentrated on around here and I enjoy driving it. With the aid of a great setup and lots of practice, I'm now able to keep up with the faster drivers when hotlapping, but we all know that can change come race time.

I hope we have a good turn out tonight and that everyone feels free to choose the car they think they'll have the most fun in.
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« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2010, 03:03:25 PM +0000 »

Since we're driving the cars we like then I'll be in the L88.
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« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2010, 03:34:31 PM +0000 »

I can hustle the L88 round in under 40 on a good lap, but it's messy, I don't really like the 914
though I've used it ok in the past, I like the Elan and the Daytona, but I'm too slow in both
I will priobably be using the 275 though I find it rather wayward, I "believe" I am more likely to finish
in it than the L88...
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« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2010, 07:45:02 PM +0000 »

im looking forward to a david v goliath battle with the 914vL88, been there many times before in 911 v vipers etc and its always a fascinating/frustrating fight !

agree with others in the chicane area of the national ruining this tracks flow but dont mind it for classic car racing. Undecided
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« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2010, 09:02:23 PM +0000 »

First of all sorry to Geoffers for mucking up his race before it had begun... really sorry mate but its not like me to cause a 1st corner colliision, i need more practice in these cars and with wooden brakes! Sorry  Undecided hate doing things like that and just locked up. Watched the replay and can imagine you watched the whole thing unfold and cringe  Sad

Love these cars but going to practice harder...... need more pace!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2010, 09:18:02 PM +0000 »

First of all sorry to Geoffers for mucking up his race before it had begun...

No worries mate, I made a mess of things myself after that  Roll Eyes. Crashed 3 times & with a crabbing car I decided to pit for repairs, braked to stop at my pit & the car turned sharp right into the pit garages & the engine died.

Just could not get the hang of this track, I like it (apart from the link) but can't drive it!
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« Reply #58 on: January 14, 2010, 09:35:07 PM +0000 »

Very sorry about driving into the back of you at the start Clive. I was so keen to get off the line quickly and make a couple of places before T1. A real rush of blood to the head which isn't usually my style Embarrassed Apologies also to those who were caught up in it. I hope I didn't cause too much damage.

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« Reply #59 on: January 14, 2010, 09:41:36 PM +0000 »

Sorry to Ade for T1, pretty poor from me :'(

Saw that the three fastest gents were in 914, L88 and Lotus (great pace Paul) so decided to go for the 275 last minute to try and add even more spice. Was getting used to it and better throughout quali but I'd never have got MJ's pole, nice one. After T1 feck up, sorry again Ade, it was pressure Mike for 38 minutes. He made one slip and I was through only to have come back at me 3 laps later. Think that effort might have codded his tyres and I was all over him for last 20 mins. I gradually worked on where I could take him on final section and was quite happy I could do him after a few dry runs. However, the sneaky American must have been watching me and he broke much more than normal in first section so that I couldn't try it. Crafty git Smiley

Congrats Mike, MJ and Paul. As long as you accept the likely outcome, those choices provide fantastic fun  Smiley  
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