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January 24, 2010, 08:33:21 PM +0000 - Dubai (GP) - UKGTR Season 11
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Jayblue
 Supersonic Racing
Aston Martin DBR9 (#10000) GT1 2 +0.405
108.284mph
1 1:19:13.321
103.278mph
41 1:51.425
107.458mph
Michelin  
Berger R - 74
 Supersonic Racing
Aston Martin DBR9 (#10000) GT1 1 1:50.170
108.682mph
2 +6.935
103.128mph
41 1:50.977
107.892mph
Michelin  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Lister Storm (#860001) GT1 3 +1.361
107.356mph
3 +1:26.521
101.432mph
41 1:53.185
105.787mph
Michelin  
Gazza49er
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ferrari 550 Maranello (#490052) GT1 5 +2.460
106.308mph
4 +1:30.640
101.345mph
41 1:53.095
105.871mph
Michelin  
Greg Metcalf
 Supersonic Racing
Aston Martin DBR9 (#850013) GT1 7 +3.050
105.754mph
5 +1L
100.685mph
40 1:53.950
105.077mph
Michelin  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Aston Martin DBR9 (#950057) GT1 9 +3.255
105.563mph
6 +13.967
100.390mph
40 1:53.521
105.474mph
Michelin  
H@L9000
 Team Pseudo Racing
Dodge Viper GTS-R (#420052) GT1 8 +3.235
105.582mph
7 +24.041
100.179mph
40 1:54.325
104.732mph
Pirelli  
APEXTECHUSA
 Supersonic Racing
Chevrolet Corvette C6-R (#20000) GT1 4 +1.855
106.882mph
8 +30.550
100.043mph
40 1:53.547
105.450mph
Michelin  
nsfast
 Supersonic Racing
Aston Martin DBR9 (#10000) GT1 11 +3.890
104.975mph
9 +1:32.142
98.772mph
40 1:54.700
104.390mph
Michelin  
API
 Team Oldie Racing
Lamborghini Murcielago R-GT (#560014) GT1 12 +4.455
104.458mph
10 +1:51.698
98.375mph
40 1:55.325
103.824mph
Michelin  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Spyker C8 GT2R (#780013) GTC 13 +7.866
101.439mph
11 +2L
95.942mph
39 1:59.015
100.605mph
Michelin  
Prof
 Team Shark
BMW Z4M (#170000) GTC 16 +10.709
99.054mph
12 +3L
94.017mph
38 2:01.975
98.164mph
Pirelli  
purdie
 Racin24-7
Porsche 997 GT3 Cup (#160000) GTC 14 +10.614
99.132mph
13 +1.627
93.986mph
38 2:01.494
98.552mph
Pirelli  
Mcfids
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW Z4M (#170000) GTC 17 +11.604
98.326mph
14 +11.322
93.798mph
38 2:02.142
98.029mph
Pirelli  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Dodge Viper CC GTC (#720052) GTC 22 +13.744
96.627mph
15 +33.871
93.364mph
38 2:01.239
98.759mph
Dunlop  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Marcos LM600 (#40000) GT1 6 +3.002
105.799mph
16 38 1:53.875
105.146mph
unknown
Michelin  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 997 GT3 Cup (#790013) GTC 19 +11.965
98.035mph
17 +4L
92.950mph
37 2:02.068
98.089mph
Pirelli  
picnic
 Team Shark
Spyker C8 GT2R (#130000) GTC 18 +11.919
98.072mph
18 +41.313
92.152mph
37 2:02.245
97.947mph
Michelin  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Porsche 997 GT3 Cup (#160000) GTC 21 +13.278
96.992mph
19 +45.332
92.075mph
37 2:02.077
98.082mph
Pirelli  
Haiku
 
BMW Z4M (#170000) GTC 24 +15.742
95.094mph
20 +5L
88.872mph
36 2:06.650
94.540mph
Pirelli  
Josè Arrogantio
 Team Oldie Racing
Aston Martin DBR9 (#10000) GT1 10 +3.345
105.479mph
21 +1:26.823
87.309mph
36 1:53.452
105.538mph
Michelin  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 997 GT3 Cup (#770008) GTC 15 +10.668
99.087mph
22 +8L 33 2:00.999
98.955mph
unknown
Pirelli  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 997 GT3 Cup (#970057) GTC 20 +12.735
97.421mph
23 +18L 23 2:02.138
98.033mph
unknown
Pirelli  
jpv
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 997 GT3 Cup (#790013) GTC 23 +14.549
96.004mph
24 +26L 15 2:03.552
96.911mph
unknown
Pirelli  

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TT runs wide at T7 and a few pass him, including the lapped Jose. On the following long straight, Jose goes to the inside in order to give TT the following corner and the place back. Unfortunately, Jose doesn't brake early enough to easily allow TT to take the corner and he has to travel around the outside. This clearly isn't an attempt by Jose to pass. To help out again, Jose doesn't accelerate hard on exit and TT is about to pass him when he loses control a little, clips Jose and comes worse off.

Jose does make a mistake at the beginning of this incident but, in mitigation, the Marcos doesn't make such moves easy at the best of times and it looked very tricky for TT at this point in race. He also acted with the best of intentions throughout so its a racing incident for me.

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« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2010, 10:53:26 PM +0000 »

Never enjoyed racing here and tonight just rammed that negative thought further home. I know everyone believes the Sypker is some super beast but I think I've proved that without decent setups and no talent it's not brilliant. I could keep up with the Z4 and Porkas on fresh tyres for about 5 laps before my setup went off and the car became almost undrivable Sad

I must apologise to all those I hit tonight and spun in front of. It won't happen again as I'll not race Dubai ever again unless I can ever get at least consistent and that's very unlikely to happen. Glad this was the end of the season as a performance like that certain blows away one's mojo for all this Sad Fingers crossed the iR race Tuesday goes better or I'll probably be suicidal  Undecided
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« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2010, 10:54:41 PM +0000 »

Awful race for me. Struggled for pace, as I have at all the low downforce circuits, and it became obvious quite early in proceedings that I couldn't brake anywhere near as late into the corner at the end of the back straight as others. After getting past JPV towards the end of the first stint (think my tyres lasted much better - he was locking up a lot), he ended up boxed in behind me by a lapping car, and I could only watch in horror as the inevitable happened and he ran smack into the back of me there.

I guess he quit - dead engine or just fed up? - and I pitted to repair the damage; only 8 seconds worth but the handling was off. In hindsight I think I should've hung on to half distance, as although the car was good for 35 minutes or so, once the rears went off it was a nightmare, and by the time we got down to the last 10 minutes it was desperately hard to hang on to the back in some places.

Sadly I never had the pace to help the team and it's gutting to see we missed out on the team championship by just 2 points. :'( At least my 3rd in the drivers was already sewn up.

EDIT: JPV, not Goldtop. All those Beetles look alike.

I use the homeplug units David as i would love to run cat5 around the house but would look too unsightly and have always had issues whenever i ran wifi.

Yeah, I use the HomePlug things too (four Devolo units in my case), absolutely marvellous bits of kit. Smiley

Anyway it seemd Bob was warping alot.

Yeah, sorry about that, Bob, but we really couldn't let you continue like that, you'd have had someone's eye out. Undecided laugh It looked like the connection was in use by something else, pulsing every second or so for a while, then being smooth for a few seconds, then pulsing again. Might be something like Windows Update downloading patches?
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« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2010, 11:04:43 PM +0000 »

I was no better than 4th fastest in GTC tonight but gained from late problems for Purdie and Jonzo to get second place. Thank you for the kind words SbG but I am still a class or two below you and not really competition. (I assume you meant consistently strong btw  Cheesy)

Well it's been a fun and challenging season with plenty of weather to contend with. Time to say a few 'well dones' and 'thank yous'.

Well done to the two championship winners Gazza and Ginsters. SbG, it has been a pleasure watching you disappear into the distance this season and admiiring some of your stunning qually times and race pace. Well done to the other podium winners including my two Shark Gymer team-mates and Jay-Blue.

Well done to the Supersonic team for your GT1 championship and to the Kerbcrawlers who beat us Sharks by a single point in GTC.

Finally well done to all drivers on the quality of your racing and sportsmanship in some pretty grotty weather conditions at times. The standard of racing remains really high and is attracting a worrying number of aliens from other leagues (worrying in that this may be my only championship podium).

Huge thanks to Gizmo and Pete for organising such great league seasons and providing servers to race on and all people who have helped in the unglamourous but necessary task of moderating the occasional incident.

See you in S12 with a nicely painted Shark Z4!  Smiley
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« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2010, 11:07:32 PM +0000 »

which one is now GT1 winner? i do not know the rules if it is a draw? both?
gazzer and jayblue have both 72 points?

i see that i am 6th in championship with 47points and we did win team title in GT1.

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« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2010, 11:11:35 PM +0000 »

which one is now GT1 winner? i do not know the rules if it is a draw? both?
gazzer and jayblue have both 72 points?

Gazza gets the nod on the attendence rule. Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2010, 11:12:15 PM +0000 »

gutted gutted gutted.  :'(

Had 2nd place totally in the bag, only 9 minutes remaining after a faultless strong drive and my poxy pc went t*ts up  Angry Ive obviously got an overheating cpu or gfx card. It did exactly what it does when my IR goes pear shaped, instant drop to about 20fps and judder city, i couldnt even see the track edges and just had to pull off and retire  :'(

Qually was tight and Purds just pipped me by a 100th of a second, so was 3rd on grid.
Race start was nearly a disaster when i had a brain fade and put my lights on instead of the pit limiter off !!  Shocked Prof and the train behind must have wondered what was happening, sorry about that  Hit with a wet fish

Chased hard after Purds for 2nd and really put the pressure on him after several laps. Then on lap 10 he cracked and i shot off into the dusk for the next half hour on my tod with a clear 10sec gap back to purds and Prof, whilst 30 secs behind Ginsters rocket ship Roll Eyes
Pitted on 50mins, all straight forward except for the tardy pit crew and was shocked to then rejoin as Purds shot past  Huh so his stop must have been much healthier than mine.  Undecided
Chased him down hard again and with about 15mins left he ran wide again and i reclaimed my 2nd place. I then pulled a 5+ sec gap out on him and was just looking forward to finishing 2nd then the bastich pc let me down censored
Such a shame as was a great race long duel on one of my fave tracks with Purds and the track looked superb in the lighting conditions.
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« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2010, 11:14:22 PM +0000 »

which one is now GT1 winner? i do not know the rules if it is a draw? both?
gazzer and jayblue have both 72 points?

Gazza gets the nod on the attendence rule. Smiley

Extract from UKGTR rules:
In the event of a tie on points, the following criteria will be applied in order:
◦Number of events entered within the championship
◦Best finish in class
◦Best finish overall
◦Best qualifying position in class
◦Best qualifying position overall
◦Most number of wins in class, or 2nd places if tied on wins, and so on down to 6th place.
◦Most number of wins overall, or 2nd places if tied on wins, and so on down to 6th place.
◦Most number of class poles in class, or 2nd place qualifying if tied on poles, and so on down to 6th place.
◦Most number of class poles overall, or 2nd place qualifying if tied on poles, and so on down to 6th place.
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« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2010, 11:17:07 PM +0000 »

Had 2nd place totally in the bag, only 9 minutes remaining after a faultless strong drive and my poxy pc went t*ts up  Angry Ive obviously got an overheating cpu or gfx card. It did exactly what it does when my IR goes pear shaped, instant drop to about 20fps and judder city, i couldnt even see the track edges and just had to pull off and retire  :'(

Something very odd going on - Picnic had ~1s pauses and I had a couple of long pauses too, luckily not in places where there was anything to run into. Most odd, although this is the first race I've done on my new Core i5 rig.
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« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2010, 11:21:03 PM +0000 »

One of the more enjoyable GTR2 races for me, I'm not fond of this track, so did 5 mins testing in Ferri 430 and 5 mins in Viper.
VIper felt better. Spent all of prac and qual adjustin my race setup, should have set a bit more front grip, as the front left
wore faster than the rears (med fronts/hard rears) still got 2nd fastest lap in class I think, so was not too bad
Had great fun 1st half passing a couple of people, then spent most of the race chasing Spanner, I caught up a couple
of times, once got alongside, a bit of robust defense on the straight made me scowl, otherwise a good chase  Cool

Oh BTW, you were warping quite a bit a couple of times, I had to lift once as you zoomed up to and then away.
only happened briefly, after that looked solid. Perhaps someone turned the kettle on.. TCP/IP over mains....?
get some cat6 strung around the house  Cheesy
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« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2010, 11:28:20 PM +0000 »

That was such a tense race for me. With all the effort the team has put in over the last few weeks, it all came down to the last couple of laps for the championship.

I had a race long battle with Peter, with both of us making mistakes and swapping places until he spun and I was through, for what turned out to be crucial points. Bad luck there Peter, the Spyker certainly looked very difficult to drive from where I was sitting.

After getting past Goldtop towards the end of the first stint (think my tyres lasted much better - he was locking up a lot), he ended up boxed in behind me by a lapping car, and I could only watch in horror as the inevitable happened and he ran smack into the back of me there.

I guess he quit - dead engine or just fed up?


I think you're confusing me with someone else there Dave. I was ahead of you all night Wink


Big congrats to all the race/championship winners, but especially (of course) to the Kerbies and in particular the mighty SBG for a great season Cool.

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« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2010, 11:33:33 PM +0000 »

Something very odd going on - Picnic had ~1s pauses and I had a couple of long pauses too, luckily not in places where there was anything to run into. Most odd, although this is the first race I've done on my new Core i5 rig.
I had this a bit in practice offline earlier in the week - never seen it before at any other track. I defragged my hard drives earlier today (even though all said 0%) and this seemed to stop it. Mine is a relatively new install of Windows 7 too.
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« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2010, 11:50:06 PM +0000 »

Earlier in the day everytime spanner left the server my game would ctd.

In the race everytime someone left the server i had a slight pause, i was quite worried when i saw spanner quit :/

maybe the server needs a restart?
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« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2010, 01:56:00 AM +0000 »

which one is now GT1 winner? i do not know the rules if it is a draw? both?
gazzer and jayblue have both 72 points?

Gazza gets the nod on the attendence rule. Smiley

I still think it should be decided on results rather than attendance. Me and Simon have been saying that for a while.

In any case, congrats to Gazza and Jayblue for a close finish and some serious pace from the top 2 here. It's gonna be tough for me in S12 to keep up with you  Shocked
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« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2010, 02:40:12 AM +0000 »

I wanted to say thank you for letting me jump in these last two races with your series.  Even though I crashed out on Mosport and I was distinctly off the pace at Dubai (never been fast there), I had alot of fun and coming back from a year off from racing, overall I was pleased with things.  I still remember the very first race I ever ran - it was with UKGTR at Monza about 4 years ago I think and succumbed to the 1 fps bug.  Hope I can continue to run with you guys next season.

Cheers,

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« Reply #44 on: January 25, 2010, 08:45:47 AM +0000 »

After practicing for this race by watching some TV before hand I was as well prepared as always. Wink Picked my Barcelona setup and made some tweaks through qualifying and just before the race. Considering how far ahead JB and Berger were on the grid I was suprised there was nobody inbetween me and them which saw me start an amazing 3rd.

Unlike a few of you other drivers I actually quite like Dubai. It has all sorts of different corners, down hill, up hill, long straights, hairpins, fast corners, double apex corners. With the track being so wide it's ideal for racing these big cars and also gives you the opportunity to make mistakes and get away with them, or even just try different lines.

Anyway, from 3rd on the grid I saw Berger let Jayblue through for the lead and then watched them both dissappear into the distance. I gained an early lead on the cars behind but when Gazza got through to 4th he started closing me down. Nearing the pit stops and I ran wide somewhere and he took the position. Up to that point I'd just been in cruise mode and it woke me up and I chased hiim very hard up the pit stops where I was a car length behind going into the pits.

As expected my pit stop was shorter and rather than the bottom wiggle I give Truetom when I pass him I flashed my lights a lot as I passed Gazza in the pits with my tongue sticking out. Sorry, couldn't resist. Tongue

This gave me a 4-5 second lead which I extended to 7-8 seconds. I really put the hammer down after the pit stops (although I'm sure my lap times weren't much better) and with only 5 minutes to go 3rd was in the bag. Unfortunately Picnic thought he would impress me with his drifting skills and span right in front of me and Ginsters as we were lapping him. Luckily we both had our eyes on stalks by that point and our lightning fast reactions amazingly avoided any contact between any of us.  Grin

After that it was a bit more tense to the finish, but I gathered myself together and came home third still for an unexpected podium position in the race.

Well done to all championship winners and losers and to the team behind the scenes that make this stuff happen.

I still think it should be decided on results rather than attendance. Me and Simon have been saying that for a while.

I still agree with that. I don't think it's fair that a driver with 4 wins should be 2nd to a driver that didn't win a race should they tie on points. Wink Encouraging attendance is one thing, but I don't see why you need to be at every race to be the worthy winner. We all have holidays (well apart from Gizmo!) or races for one reason or another we simply can't attend or races where we have a power cut or disconnection or where the server is full so we're all gonna miss races from time to time.

I don't think we need dropped scores but I do think ties should be settled on performance not attendance as that just seems plainly fair to me. I don't see what we're acheiving by deciding ties on attendance. If you are in a position to win the championship you are clearly not someone that just turns up from time-to-time anyway so how is it helping anyone?
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