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  • S18N Monza: January 26, 2010
January 26, 2010, 11:13:56 PM +0000 - Monza (GP 1955-71) - UKGPL Season 18 (2009-2010) Novices Trophy (65)
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roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 2 +0.075
131.758mph
1 34:37.094
130.056mph
21 1:37.989
131.278mph
Dunlop  
NickyIckx
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +0.406
131.313mph
2 +0.481
130.026mph
21 1:37.892
131.408mph
Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 9 +0.607
131.044mph
3 +8.822
129.506mph
21 1:38.321
130.834mph
Dunlop  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 10 +0.708
130.909mph
4 +16.353
129.040mph
21 1:38.447
130.667mph
Dunlop  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +0.420
131.294mph
5 +31.893
128.090mph
21 1:37.948
131.333mph
Dunlop  
G Jonsson
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 11 +1.001
130.520mph
6 +32.079
128.078mph
21 1:38.260
130.916mph
Dunlop  
D-Rock
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 4 +0.260
131.509mph
7 +38.680
127.679mph
21 1:37.695
131.673mph
Dunlop  
maestro57
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +0.432
131.278mph
8 +38.720
127.676mph
21 1:38.668
130.374mph
Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 1 1:37.557
131.859mph
9 +40.826
127.549mph
21 1:37.618
131.777mph
Dunlop  
BookieW
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 15 +2.637
128.389mph
10 +59.905
126.411mph
21 1:38.710
130.319mph
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Honda RA272 F1 1965 12 +1.110
130.376mph
11 +1:00.045
126.402mph
21 1:38.496
130.602mph
Goodyear  
G Poole
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 16 +4.178
126.444mph
12 +1:02.031
126.285mph
21 1:40.346
128.194mph
Goodyear  
Ross Neilson
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 5 +0.331
131.413mph
13 +1:19.777
125.246mph
21 1:38.010
131.250mph
Dunlop  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 14 +2.047
129.149mph
14 +1:25.627
124.907mph
21 1:39.029
129.899mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 13 +1.328
130.088mph
15 +15L
118.852mph
6 1:39.938
128.717mph
Disco
Goodyear  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 3 +0.225
131.556mph
16 +21L
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clutch
Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 17 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
maddog
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 18 ---
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Dunlop  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 17 19 ---
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Dunlop  

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SUMMARY

A well deserved second win to Rog UK. Nicky secured runner-up spot on the podium with Norbert Stemmler visiting the podium for a second time to taste the UKGPL champagne.


Server replay time: 0h00m51s

Lap 1 – Main Straight – N Hance, Göran Jonsson and D Rock.

After 200 yards, N Hance’s engine explodes and he makes a valiant effort to pull off to the right out of the way. Several cars manage to avoid N Hance but Göran is unsighted and has to make a last ditch manoeuvre in order to avoid the stricken BRM. Unfortunately this results in contact with D Rock and both cars spin off the track.

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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2010, 12:47:26 PM +0000 »

What a mess, but first:

Grats to the championship Al, well done.

The minute I put my ass in the Cooper seat I knew it was over for me. I hadn't raced the Cooper at all before and it was only a couple of days to practice. So allthough I knew it was pretty fast in the right hands, well done Nicky, I didn't really find it out before the race.

With no slipstream in practice I only got p11 and at the start my other problem showed itself. I only saw like 5-6 cars in front of me and when the start flag fell and I tried to cope with cars sliding in front of me when all of a sudden a BRM with a blown engine turned up. I did avoid him bur I don't think D-rock was to happy with my car right in front of him.

And the rest of the race was just a mess. Both trying to pass and being passed ended many times in tears. At the beginning of the last lap I was in p8 but I saw that there were 3 drivers together in front of me so I guessed it might be intresting and it was only I did manage to pass only 2 of them, but anyway I got p6 over the line. Well that is before the race report is in of cause.

Anyway I am looking forward to driving in the Amateurs next seaseon with no shift-r and longer races and free car. Well Nicky, the way I do the math it is between us to get p2 in the championship for the last race, I'll try to keep my hopes up but.....................


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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2010, 01:19:07 PM +0000 »


I came in for a shift-R, as I was damaged when someone hit me after the Lesmo spin (sorry, whoever it was, totally my fault) and was left trying to lap Billy for the rest of the race. Every time I got close I spun or made a mistake, highlighting the big problem I have ATM - I can't race in close company with others. Shame as my pace was good enough for a points finish.

Ross,
As per my previous post the server mistakenly decided I had disco'd about lap 6. Pribluda would have shown that you were trying to laps me whereas I'm sure I was actually ahead, on the same lap. If you had been lapping me I would have moved over.
Not that I've had much practice but one of the hardest skills in GPL is following another car without either colliding with them or overbraking & spinning. Your Lotus was definitely a bit quicker but you drove very fairly & without any contact - thanks.
... Bill
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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2010, 02:39:21 PM +0000 »

First of all apologies to Pete Maestro & D-Rock. Me & Pete had a terrific battle & diced wheel-to-wheel for 20.75 laps only for me to goof it up 3 corners from home Embarrassed I thought Pete was on my inside going into Lesmo 2 so I tried to leave lots of room - sadly I was going a tad too quick for the extra-wide outside line & ended up spinning right in front of Pete & a closely-following D-Rock. Sorry guys - was really annoyed with myself - especially as me & Pete had managed over 20 safe overtaking moves on each other during the course of the race.

Apart from that it was a really fun race. Got a good start & after Norm's engine exploded (bad luck mate - don't often see an engine go off the start with intermediate rules) I found myself promoted to 4th place. Sadly I wasn't close enough to the front 3 to pick up a tow, so I knew it was only a matter of time until I was picked off down the long straight in the BT7. Fabio passed me easily a few times but seemed to have problems getting though Para (brake balance?) & kept going off. The rest of the race was pretty much just one long scrap with Pete!

Congratulations to team-mate Rog for the win. Perhaps slightly bigger congratulations to Nicky for 2nd in the Cooper - great job again thumbup1 And a special congratulation to Norbert for 3rd (plus first place in laptime consistency too - nice one).

Was really pleased to clinch the championship here - thanks for all the congrats Smiley - it was certainly very tough competition especially from Goran (Tussman) & Nicky. Thanks to the title-race I've really improved a hell of a lot over the course of this season so like Goran, I will be moving up to Am's next season - hopefully we can continue our battle there (if I can keep up). Looking forward to my final Nov's race at Oulton.
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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2010, 03:00:47 PM +0000 »

blew two engines in practise , so went with longer 5th and 6th gears for the race which was great as long as i could get the "tow" .

navigated through the usual Monza Mayhem and was keeping in touch with the lead pack , but a recovering ferrari (Fabio?) came from behind and stuffed me into the Lesmos armco ,which dropped me right down the order into no mans land .

enjoyed a bit of racing with various oponants (Billy? ) and a red thing which i thought was fabio recovered again from another off but can see was actually way in front . then a looooong spell of lonesome road .

On the last lap I thought I would see just how late i could go into para bollicker without braking .

The answer ... all the way into the hedge , recovered just in time to lose another place to Bookie inches from the line  
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2010, 07:55:05 PM +0000 »

Gentlemen I have an announcement. Twice this season I have pressed the escape button instead of the Shift R, but now I have what I hope is the answer. I have made an approx 1½cm cube of cardboard open on one side. This is placed over the escape button whilst on line racing so hopefully making me not press the button without thinking. It is called the Sure Hance Involuntary Termination button protector, or S.H.I.T. button protector for short, 'cos that's what you say when you shouldn't have pressed it. Patent pending.  Grin
Interesting to read the comments of those who have trouble racing in close company ' cos I feel like that as well. Your not alone.

Well done to the podium boys at Monza & especially to Al H a very worthy champion.
Norm H
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2010, 08:48:53 PM +0000 »

 Cheesy

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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2010, 11:32:35 PM +0000 »

Gentlemen I have an announcement. Twice this season I have pressed the escape button instead of the Shift R, but now I have what I hope is the answer. I have made an approx 1½cm cube of cardboard open on one side. This is placed over the escape button whilst on line racing so hopefully making me not press the button without thinking. It is called the Sure Hance Involuntary Termination button protector, or S.H.I.T. button protector for short, 'cos that's what you say when you shouldn't have pressed it. Patent pending.  Grin
Dragons Den for the finance and then you could sell loads of S.H.I.T. Norm  Grin
As an alternative I bought an £8 cheapo joypad, downloaded some free software and fixed the buttons to send 'hi' 'po' 'gla' etc and also shift/r. Works great for me and you don't have to go near the keyboard. Ideally I would get one of those mini touchscreens and program it all in but that is a bit above my budget.
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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2010, 09:52:12 AM +0000 »

First of all apologies to Pete Maestro & D-Rock. Me & Pete had a terrific battle & diced wheel-to-wheel for 20.75 laps only for me to goof it up 3 corners from home Embarrassed I thought Pete was on my inside going into Lesmo 2 so I tried to leave lots of room - sadly I was going a tad too quick for the extra-wide outside line & ended up spinning right in front of Pete & a closely-following D-Rock. Sorry guys - was really annoyed with myself - especially as me & Pete had managed over 20 safe overtaking moves on each other during the course of the race.
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Al, Thanks for an excellent race. Best I can remember. Seemed like only 10 laps instead of 21 as it went so quick. A pleasure to race you as it appears we both knew where the other was and ensured the room was given where appropriate. I think we overtook each other at least twice every lap. You could certainly outbrake me and I appeared to have a faster top end, so made for a good race.

Congrats to Al for the championship

Looking forward to last race at Oulton, see you all there

cheers

Peter
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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2010, 12:42:00 PM +0000 »

 Wink Smiley
dont know what to begin with first;
 congratulations to the winner of this race ( Roger  )  or the winner of this championship ( Al ) ...

 Cheesy well  , big big hand to both , very well done jobs !!!!!

must thanks Roger a lot for serving me great tow over the complete race time ..
the time I saw pole-man Fabio struggling at Para ,I was so afraid Roger may be involved too and getting off as well ,that  I shout out loud : `come on I need at least one fast car in front of me ..plz, plz ..`.  Cheesy

luckily Roger staid on track  and it was real hard work to kept contact ; and fortunately my Cooper`s gearing was long enough to help the engine to stand that permanent slipstream-effect.....

and of course  , special congartulations goes to my team mate Norbert , what an amazing race he made .
faster then a speeding duck , all over the race  Shocked Smiley Cheesy nice one .

 Cool Roll Eyes well , yes Tussman Oulton Park will be show down time for us gambling for 2nd in the champiomship.

 Huh Huh NHance , not sure aboutt it . But watching the replay I noticed you didnt warm up your engine before start , mean looks like you did not , on my replay .. afaik only novices level dont count any damages ..

 Smiley see ya al at Oulton Park , or maybe before this coming sunday`s spec race at Hockenheim .
 Cool will test my new made  Ickx-light-pedals there ( without cogwheel geared potis but via software on special BUO836A usb chip  Cool Cool
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2010, 12:21:52 PM +0000 »

First of all: contratulations to Rog, the winner of my home track race, and to Al, the winner of the Season 18 Novices championship!!!

Well, last Tuesday I was really tired and nearly forgot the race, my home track race!!!

Practice:
a pole position of an Italian driver with an Italian car at **THE** italian track!! Dir you all hear the roaring crowd?!? Wink

Race:
as I'm not really used to start an online race in this place, before the green flag I was quite scared... scared
I didn't start the as I expected, so Rog was immediately pushin' at my back... wacko wacko
At the end of lap three I went wide on the Parabolica and I was back to the tarmac with seven drivers in front of me.

I was really angry with myself because of this error, so I tried to get back in front of the pack. cursing

I passed Bernie at the first Lesmo's turn, were he left me a wide open door inside, but he hit me on my rear when, probably surprised of my suddenly move, he was aiming the apex.
That was my first impression and it's still the same after checking my replay: I didn't see the server replay yet.

I got back in 5th place and then, in front of Peter, I went wide again on the Parabolica so I found myself in 9th place...

I tried again to climb as many positions as possible but, again, all my efforts were useless as I made another mistake.

Only satisfaction: the FL of the race but, maybe with less errors, it could have been a hat trick!!

CU all for the closing race in Oulton.
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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2010, 01:14:25 PM +0000 »

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I passed Bernie at the first Lesmo's turn, were he left me a wide open door inside, but he hit me on my rear when, probably surprised of my suddenly move, he was aiming the apex.
That was my first impression and it's still the same after checking my replay: I didn't see the server replay yet.


Sorry Fabio if that was the case , I did not save my own replay and can't find the server replay to check , so I can't confirm or deny. 

I had several incidents at lesmo ( OK two ) and was pretty pissed off myself with the first one because I lost the tow from the leading pack. If that is the one you are refering to, Im sure I left you room in the corner , The second incident Im not sure of at all because by that time I had lost the plot .

No doubt the mods will sort that one out and again if I did ruin your race then big appologies  Undecided

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« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2010, 05:38:34 PM +0000 »


Sorry Fabio if that was the case , I did not save my own replay and can't find the server replay to check , so I can't confirm or deny. 

I had several incidents at lesmo ( OK two ) and was pretty pissed off myself with the first one because I lost the tow from the leading pack. If that is the one you are refering to, Im sure I left you room in the corner , The second incident Im not sure of at all because by that time I had lost the plot .

No doubt the mods will sort that one out and again if I did ruin your race then big appologies  Undecided



Don't worry Bernie: I didn't suffer anything after the contact.
I guessed you were blaming me for the contact and I only wrote down my impressions.
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