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October 18, 2005, 09:21:19 PM +0100 - Barcelona (GP) - UKGTR GTR1 Sprint Season 2 N-GT
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Matjaz Plotajs
 dE Racing
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 1 1:43.892
101.608mph
1 40:07.463
96.466mph
22 1:45.010
100.526mph
Dunlop  
mo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 3 +1.020
100.620mph
2 +8.784
96.115mph
22 1:45.505
100.054mph
Dunlop  
Pedro[PL]
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 4 +1.142
100.503mph
3 +28.625
95.332mph
22 1:45.069
100.470mph
Pirelli  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Morgan Aero 8 NGT 5 +1.562
100.103mph
4 +31.360
95.225mph
22 1:46.663
98.968mph
Dunlop  
JonM_uk
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 2 +0.515
101.107mph
5 +47.245
94.609mph
22 1:45.622
99.944mph
Pirelli  
greg130
 28CD Motorsports
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 8 +2.378
99.334mph
6 +58.692
94.170mph
22 1:47.265
98.413mph
Dunlop  
Rich_A
 CBFR
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 15 +3.441
98.350mph
7 +1:09.888
93.744mph
22 1:46.164
99.433mph
Dunlop  
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 7 +2.117
99.579mph
8 +1:15.474
93.533mph
22 1:47.319
98.363mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Morgan Aero 8 NGT 14 +3.380
98.406mph
9 +1:40.278
92.608mph
22 1:48.972
96.871mph
Dunlop  
Aagramn
 Team Shark
Mosler MT900R NGT 9 +2.478
99.241mph
10 +1:40.987
92.582mph
22 1:47.549
98.153mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 18 +3.984
97.855mph
11 +1L
91.990mph
21 1:48.165
97.594mph
Dunlop  
enz13_gt
 
Mosler MT900R NGT 16 +3.463
98.330mph
12 +14.448
91.442mph
21 1:48.355
97.423mph
Dunlop  
Jamera
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 19 +4.086
97.763mph
13 +17.624
91.322mph
21 1:48.851
96.979mph
Pirelli  
PaulW
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 6 +2.010
99.679mph
14 +24.010
91.083mph
21 1:47.315
98.367mph
Dunlop  
Rob Bywater "Kerb Crawlers"
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 22 +4.815
97.107mph
15 +41.942
90.416mph
21 1:49.006
96.841mph
Dunlop  
Mark J
 Legends Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 10 +2.656
99.075mph
16 +1:09.484
89.412mph
21 1:48.920
96.917mph
Dunlop  
Don
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 11 +2.948
98.804mph
17 +1:30.404
88.664mph
21 1:49.869
96.080mph
Pirelli  
Oilseal
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 24 +10.277
92.461mph
18 +1:51.551
87.920mph
21 1:53.932
92.654mph
Dunlop  
as-here
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 20 +4.282
97.586mph
19 +2L
85.047mph
20 1:49.640
96.281mph
Dunlop  
malonejames
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 12 +3.027
98.731mph
20 +0.829
85.019mph
20 1:47.612
98.095mph
Dunlop  
cb95amc
 
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 17 +3.469
98.325mph
21 +11L 11 1:50.126
95.856mph
unknown
Dunlop  
silver53
 Ze insane Penguins
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 21 +4.579
97.319mph
22 11 1:49.204
96.665mph
unknown
Pirelli  
Wilier
 Kerb Crawlers
Ferrari 360 Modena NGT 13 +3.280
98.498mph
23 +15L 7 1:48.954
96.887mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Edza
 
Porsche 911 GT3-RS NGT 23 +5.819
96.219mph
+22L 0 ---
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unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Some chat was noticed in qualifying, which is against the rules and extremely distracting for drivers who are concentrating on their qualifying lap.

Also, where chat is allowed in practice, drivers should not attempt to discuss an incident or aportion any blame for an incident which happens on track.


Server replay time: 608s

PaulW can't avoid the frozen car of Edza and gets into the gravel trap. He then gets hit by Aagramn who succesfully avoided the frozen car of Edza. There was nothing Aagramn could have done to avoid PaulW.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 626s

PaulW makes his way out of the gravel trap after his contact with the frozen car of Edza. The mistake he makes here is that he gets onto the racing line too soon making contact with Enz13_GT.

Because this incident was unreported by the victim there will be no penalty, but please note that this would have been a 3 place penalty if reported by Enz13_GT. Please make sure the track is clear before you get onto the racing line.

  • PaulWpenalty — Bad rejoin — 3 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 983s

PaulW and Picnic were racing side by side through the last couple of corners. PaulW decides to take the racing line, but is barely ahead of Picnic, and clips the front end of Picnic's car in the second to last corner, sending himself off.

  • PaulWwarning — contact with Picnic
  • PaulWadvice — if you're on the outside, when in doubt, yield the corner


Server replay time: 1132s

Gerald is following Aagramn at the front straight. Then he gets a run on him and tries to out-brake him into turn 1. Unfortunately he locks his front brakes and runs into Aagramn. Gerald was fully alongside Aagramn at the turn in point and could have made a clean if aggressive pass if he hadn't locked his brakes.


Server replay time: 1298s

Pedro is following JM-Racing down the front straight. JM starts braking into turn 1 and is then rear ended by Pedro.

Pedro had enough time and room to brake, but chose a very late braking point considering there was a lapped car in front.

  • Pedro[PL]penalty — rear ending JM-Racing — 2 places lost
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded


Server replay time: 1353s

JonM_uk and Mo are getting into La Caixa. Mo is almost next to him when he locks his front and rear brakes. He then runs into the side of JonM_uk.

  • mocaution — contact with JonM
    For advice only - unreported by victim, so penalty disregarded

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« on: October 08, 2005, 08:40:46 PM +0100 »

NGT Sprint Cup - Season 2, Round 1 at Barcelona

Date: Tuesday 18th October

Practice 1: 8:30pm (15 mins)
Qual 2: 8:45pm (28 mins)
Warmup: 9:13pm (2 mins)
Race: 9:15pm (40 mins)

Cars allowed: Ferrari 360, Porsche 911 GT3-RS, Porsche 911 Bi-Turbo, Mosler, Vertigo or Morgan. (Lotus Elise, BMW Z3M, Porsche GT3 Cup are allowed but will not score points.)

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(1) Full time drivers should arrive during Practice 1 if possible. Reserve Drivers can take spots AFTER 8:40pm (5 mins to go in practice 1) to give Full Timers big enough chance to join.
(2) Server Password has been emailed to those registered racers for the relevant race. Please contact a member of the admin team to get the password if you are registered and have forgotten or not received the password. It will not be given out in the GTR chatroom as that is a public place. The password wont change for the season unless there are security concerns.
(3) See UKGTR Sprint Season 2 Info for general Season 2 info.
(4) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2005, 10:00:01 PM +0100 »

Please note the password is the same as last season's NGT sprint race.
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2005, 10:05:17 PM +0100 »

Is the 45min race correct Shark?

I don't remember any changes being proposed or discussed Huh

(Just to be clear, in case that sounds sarcastic or like I'm bitching, I'm not, I just wanted to clarify  Smiley, I'd actually prefer 45min races)

Apologies if I've missed something.

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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2005, 10:13:51 PM +0100 »

It is correct Pops yes. There is a possibility of last minute change down to 40 mins, but currently 45 mins is the new race length. The other sessions have changed slightly too due to user feedback (qual is longer). There were some musing here http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=628.15 btw.  Smiley

It's part of a move to help compliment an anticipated increase in the Endurance Events to 90 mins for Season 2 too as 60 mins isn't felt to be enough for true endurance.
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2005, 10:18:00 PM +0100 »

OK, cool. Thanks.

I think I avoided that thread as it seemed to degenerate into Tyf's insane rantings   Cheesy  Wink

Very happy about the longer Q session  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2005, 10:19:37 PM +0100 »

That sounds great. A 'true' endurance length and a sprint length that should mean things are a bit less frantic both in qualifying and during the race when driving for position. It'll be interesting to see if anyone is brave enough to regularly drive softs for races of 45 mins length.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2005, 10:28:20 PM +0100 »

Please note the password is the same as last season's NGT sprint race.

Actually it won't be but I'll be sending out the new passwords to all registered drivers (and admins) in the next few days.
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2005, 10:51:54 PM +0100 »

Well, I have not found any information if drivers are to select a car make and model for a whole season or can change cars from race to race. If the second option is correct, theoretically fastest cars in Monza (talking about F550) will be punished as they cannot run 45minutes without refuelling, while Listers can do without a problem. Of course Lister is slower on straights, but IMHO we will see an all lister grid...

To sum up - 40 minutes is optimal.
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2005, 08:24:10 AM +0100 »

Race distance changed to 40 minutes to match GT.
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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2005, 11:32:33 AM +0100 »

i know i'm new to the online racing championship but shouldnt competitors be forced to choose a car type and race it all season? (as in the real world). Otherwise people just pick the best car for a certain track surely? Might not be such an issue with NGT? but the GT beasties seem to vary greatly on their abilities at certain circuits Huh...or am i talking out of my derrier Undecided
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« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2005, 11:50:00 AM +0100 »

Personally I do try and take one car and stick to it all season but this league, as many others, does not enforce this as a rule.
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« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2005, 11:57:46 AM +0100 »

Mark, the rule last year season was that you could take any car in the class so you could switch every race if you wanted to.

This did lead to a situation mid-season in the NGT where there were 2-3 GT3's, Tyf in his Bi-T and the rest in 360's but this seemed to sort itself out by season end with more GT3's back in so no real problem I think. Realistically, it is a shootout between the 360's and GT3's in NGT, no real way around it.

My view is that it's tricky enough to get used to one car!

(There was a lengthy discussion on these boards but I'll be buggered if I can find it  Undecided I don't recall any discussion of changing this rule recently so I'm assuming the rule holds.)

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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2005, 01:30:33 PM +0100 »

I don't recall any discussion of changing this rule recently so I'm assuming the rule holds.

Yeah. I see no evidence from the first Sprint season that there's any value in trying to enforce a "one car per season" rule. If GTR let us use weight penalties we could even the different chassis choices out and aim to get more variety (eg. more Moslers) but it doesn't so there you go.
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2005, 02:26:10 PM +0100 »

Actually there was very little chopping and changing from people from race to race.
I pretty much stuck with the same car all season in both sprint champs.

It's not as clear cut as it sounds. F550 fastest at Monza? Hmm, no. Only if you can drive the F550 fast. Most people stick with the car they like best. A lot of peopl are taking the Lister as it's quite easy to drive fast, but they aren't then leaving it for the F550 at Monza and Enna.
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2005, 04:07:02 PM +0100 »

I pretty much stuck with the same car all season in both sprint champs.

With you there dude, It's hard enough getting to know the limits in this game.
I find it takes a good while to get to know how far you can push, how fast you can go and most importantly how to realise early that your tires are in danger of flying you into a wall without changing car - even if you use the same car with different tires, there's a huge difference!

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