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  • U12LE Hockenheim: February 21, 2010
February 21, 2010, 08:33:27 PM +0000 - Hockenheim (National) - UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Jayblue
 Supersonic Racing
Porsche 997 GT3 Cup (#160000) GTC 1 1:25.244
96.724mph
1 1:20:31.911
92.145mph
54 1:25.918
95.965mph
Pirelli  
Berger R - 74
 Supersonic Racing
Porsche 997 GT3 Cup (#160000) GTC 2 +0.558
96.095mph
2 +11.701
91.922mph
54 1:25.892
95.994mph
Pirelli  
Truetom
 Legends Racing
BMW Z4M (#170000) GTC 4 +0.995
95.608mph
3 +1:06.165
90.900mph
54 1:27.038
94.730mph
Pirelli  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Porsche 997 GT3 Cup (#970057) GTC 7 +1.927
94.586mph
4 +1:13.393
90.766mph
54 1:27.259
94.490mph
Pirelli  
Josè Arrogantio
 Team Oldie Racing
Porsche 997 GT3 Cup (#160000) GTC 6 +1.790
94.734mph
5 +1L
90.283mph
53 1:26.796
94.994mph
Pirelli  
purdie
 Legends Racing
Porsche 997 GT3 Cup (#770008) GTC 3 +0.716
95.918mph
6 +20.316
89.906mph
53 1:27.114
94.647mph
Pirelli  
Prof
 Team Shark
BMW Z4M (#800001) GTC 9 +2.040
94.463mph
7 +23.090
89.854mph
53 1:27.770
93.940mph
Pirelli  
gsi bob
 Supersonic Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#3100) GT3 15 +3.645
92.757mph
8 (+1) +1:23.365
88.754mph
53 1:29.248
92.384mph
Dunlop  
Mcfids
 Team Pseudo Racing
Mosler MT900R (#790052) GTC 12 +2.892
93.550mph
9 +2L
88.686mph
52 1:28.810
92.840mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW Z3M (#750013) GT3 10 +2.705
93.749mph
10 +10.034
88.503mph
52 1:28.953
92.691mph
Michelin  
API
 Team Oldie Racing
BMW Z3M (#940014) GT3 14 +3.598
92.807mph
11 +15.988
88.394mph
52 1:29.184
92.451mph
Michelin  
lazlow
 Team Oldie Racing
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#770014) GT3 18 +4.096
92.289mph
12 +51.921
87.744mph
52 1:29.878
91.737mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Ferrari 430 GTC (#110014) GTC 5 +1.702
94.830mph
13 +52.528
87.733mph
52 1:27.944
93.754mph
Michelin  
nsfast
 Supersonic Racing
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#4115) GT3 17 +3.996
92.393mph
14 +1:02.946
87.547mph
52 1:29.879
91.736mph
Michelin  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Dodge Viper Competition Coupé (#720052) GT3 21 +4.799
91.569mph
15 +3L
86.965mph
51 1:29.698
91.921mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
BMW Z3M (#770001) GT3 23 +5.503
90.858mph
16 +7.122
86.837mph
51 1:30.156
91.454mph
Michelin  
jpv
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW Z3M (#750013) GT3 24 +5.520
90.841mph
17 +1:09.525
85.732mph
51 1:30.908
90.697mph
Michelin  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#920013) GT3 19 +4.149
92.234mph
18 +1:28.016
85.410mph
51 1:30.210
91.399mph
Pirelli  
David M
 Team Shark
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#830001) GT3 16 +3.961
92.429mph
19 +4L
83.080mph
50 1:29.529
92.094mph
Dunlop  
Burtoner
 Team Shark
Ferrari 430 GTC (#730001) GTC 26 +11.527
85.202mph
20 +6L
81.845mph
48 1:30.703
90.902mph
Michelin  
Eddie Meyer
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#920013) GT3 25 +6.330
90.038mph
21 48 1:31.941
89.678mph
fuel
Pirelli  
LeeB
 
Gillet Vertigo Streiff (#3100) GT3 22 +4.848
91.519mph
22 +16L 38 1:29.531
92.092mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Stewprovo
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (#920013) GT3 20 +4.799
91.569mph
23 +20L 34 1:30.728
90.877mph
unknown
Pirelli  
jan duijs
 Dutch Turtles
Porsche 911 GT3-RS (#4059) GTC 11 +2.827
93.619mph
24 +33L 21 1:28.959
92.684mph
unknown
Michelin  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Lotus Exige Cup (#720001) GTC 13 +2.975
93.462mph
25 +45L 9 1:28.180
93.503mph
unknown
Dunlop  
H@L9000
 Team Pseudo Racing
TVR Tuscan T400R (#750052) GTC 8 +1.982
94.526mph
26 +52L 2 2:31.069
54.578mph
accident
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 358s

Legzy runs off the track and lets Spanner through before rejoining. On the next left curve he makes minimal contact with H@L causing H@L an unexpected trip into the barrier.
Due to the fact that H@L requested no penalty and Legzy took a drive through anyway, I propose no further action.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 998s

GsiBob goes very wide on the penultimate right hand bend giving the possibility of a better entry into the last corner and start/finish straight. Although this is not repeated on every lap, he does this multiple times during the race.

This corner has been subject of much debate in the past. The SROU rules say the following:
•Under normal circumstances the simulation's internal cut detection will be relied upon to police the cutting of chicanes and other corners.
Drivers are strongly discouraged from the deliberate placing of one or more wheels on areas of grass, gravel and sand.
Clear and deliberate cutting which evades detection by the simulation may still result in a penalty.

  • gsi bobadvice — Keep to track boundaries where possible.


Server replay time: 1010s

GsiBob gets a good run down the start/finish straight and makes contact with SbG. Ginsters is forced to run wide off track and loses a place.
GsiBob spends the rest of the lap racing with Simon's Lotus and does not immediately return the place.
A straightforward case of rear end contact with a slight mitigation that Bob was under control and able to brake later than SbG.

  • gsi bobpenalty — Rear end contact — 1 place lost


Server replay time: 2638s

Odd one this.
A backmarker spins in front of Legzy causing Legzy to slow for a moment at the end of the lap. Jayblue and Truetom and coming up to lap and are racing very closely. Jayblue is able to avoid easily but Truetom only sees Legzy very late and contact in inevitable due to the vast difference in speed.
As Truetom is not really racing Legzy, he does not wait and re-joins battle with Jayblue. Legzy is not at fault having been slowed but just appears in the wrong place at the wrong time as the leaders sweep through I'm afraid.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 3527s

GsiBob's car is lagging badly in this phase of the race. His car disapperars and reappears at the end of the straight. Api hits the lagging car and is flipped losing time and position.
I intend to deal with the general issue of GsiBob lagging during this race in this section as it is the only specific incident together with more genaral comments from several racers. It is not the first time GsiBob has had these problems during a race although it is acknowledged that he has made efforts to counter the effect.
People lagging are usually asked to leave and re-join through the on-screen message system or by Teamspeak and given his history of this problem it would be advisable if Bob had left this feature switched on so people could warn him. Warping can spoil the race of many people and there is the option to exclude lagging people from the race if it happens too frequently.

  • gsi bobcaution — Do all you can to avoid warping when racing - keep coms on.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
GTC
1:25.244
96.724mph
Jayblue
Qualifying
Porsche 997 GT3 CupFebruary 21, 2010, 08:33:27 PM +0000
U12LE
GTR2
GTC
1:25.892
95.994mph
Berger R - 74
Race
Porsche 997 GT3 CupFebruary 21, 2010, 08:33:27 PM +0000
U12LE
GTR2
GT3
1:27.949
93.749mph
ginsters sponsored
Qualifying
BMW Z3MFebruary 21, 2010, 08:33:27 PM +0000
U12LE
GTR2
GT3
1:28.953
92.691mph
ginsters sponsored
Race
BMW Z3MFebruary 21, 2010, 08:33:27 PM +0000
U12LE
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« on: February 14, 2010, 10:43:45 PM +0000 »

All members are welcome as Season 12 gets underway in Germany.

Practice 1:20:00(10 mins)
Qual 2:20:10(20 mins)
Race:20:30(80 mins)note: no warmup!

Cars allowed: Any GTC or GT3 from the v2.12.0.0 pack (download from here).
Weather: dry.
Track: Hockenheim National.
Race Start Time: 14:00.
Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

Server: UKGTR U12LE
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Notes:
(1) Please make sure you are fully aware of the UKGTR Rules - especially the speed limiter starting procedure and the rules about in-game chat messages.
(2) Standings and schedule can be found on the championship standings page
(3) You will not be able to join the server without the car physics pack (see link above).
(4) Drivers may only change car once in the season without penalty.
(5) Drivers are reminded that they must select ISDN as their bandwidth, otherwise the stability of everyone's connection will be reduced.
(6) Please use the Driver Details page to ensure that the league management software has your correct GTR2 'Driving Name' (not necessarily the same as your lobby name).
(7) The server will be set to 26 slots, not 28.
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 04:57:42 PM +0000 »

Hockenheim national! Its not the longest track in world! Going to be dizzy after 30mins Cheesy
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2010, 12:26:05 PM +0000 »

Ok, nevermind i guess i was thinking of the even shorter version. Havent worked out what car to go with yet tho probably be a GTC. I take it those records above are for the full circuit? Did some laps in the 997Cup as a base time but cant remeber what it was, a 27 something maybe?
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2010, 12:27:20 PM +0000 »

I take it those records above are for the full circuit?

No, they should be for the selected circuit layout.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2010, 01:03:14 PM +0000 »

Team KC is having a punt at GT3 this time round. Come and have a go if anybody thinks they are ard enough Wink
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2010, 01:18:44 PM +0000 »

Z4 for me - I heard it's been toned down, so I have all the excuse I need. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2010, 03:44:08 PM +0000 »

Z4 for me - I heard it's been toned down, so I have all the excuse I need. Wink
It wasn't much slower than the GT2s on Sunday - I would probably do better in the Z4 in UE this season than in any of the GT2 cars if it was allowed, given that I do not crash it often.  Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2010, 03:49:18 PM +0000 »

Just had a go with the new cars this afternoon. They are very varied - some are great in the bends but slower on the straights, others steam along on the straights but are much trickier to get right in the corners. I can see this meaning a nice range of results with the different tracks suiting one car above another.

As for the track, well i quite enjoy driving here, it is tough to hook up a good lap. Will need to do some more testing and thinking prior to the race to make sure i pick the right car for me.
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2010, 04:59:58 PM +0000 »

Team KC is having a punt at GT3 this time round. Come and have a go if anybody thinks they are ard enough Wink

Be just like GTC last season then. I'll just keep an eye out for when you need to lap me  :'(
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2010, 02:11:00 PM +0000 »

As theres no times yet for GTC's, managed to get in the 27's in the porka. Might be able to get in the 26's though ths was offline.
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2010, 09:45:47 PM +0000 »

Had an interesting test in the GT3's earlier and i am sure the top GT3 drivers will be competitive against the slower GTC's, even over a single lap. Going to be a very good race i think, so many different strategies and strength's and weaknesses to each car that i don't think any one stands out as having an advantage. After all looking ahead to future tracks a car that is a good choice here will not be so strong at some of the other tracks.
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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2010, 10:53:21 AM +0000 »

Sorry Dave, but whats happening with the weather? (and I don't mean whats it like up north Wink)
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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2010, 10:58:38 AM +0000 »

1:28's for me with full race fuel at present, but only did about 20mins praccy. Hope i can make this one but not sure yet.
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2010, 11:41:49 AM +0000 »

Sorry Dave, but whats happening with the weather? (and I don't mean whats it like up north Wink)

I'm going to fix it at dry, at least for this race. Frankly I haven't got the energy to sort out anything and whatever I do will get complaints so I'm going to do the simplest possible thing.
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2010, 12:48:44 PM +0000 »

Omg Dave you fell for the whiners,dont do that Boss Huh,be there anyway Grin Grin

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