It still doesn't answer my questions about which expences there really are. It seems like that nobody knows about which expences there even are.
To be honest I don't know how much is in the fund. It can't be in debt because it is not a bank account (it is a paypal account)
This sentence is a bit funny. The money is received on a PayPal account, but nobody knows how much money there is. As far as I know a PayPal account is very accessible. How do you know that the quaterly cost still is in red?
It strikes me a bit odd, kind of like a fraud, and ridicules all of the members.
The bosses have fled, the persons who know about the accounting have fled...perhaps they are laughing on Ibiza.
I believe some of the detail is already covered within this thread, however presently, as Phil has already stated, there are no real ongoing costs due to the kindness and goodwill of some members who provide servers free of charge for us to race and host on.
Servers: free, and as long as I have one (UKGPL9) I will continue to make it available freely to UKGPL to host races on.
Website domain: the domain ukgpl.com and website is hosted by Dave "Gizmo" Gymer (aka SRou's top brass), whom I understand does so in thanks to the time that he spent with UKGPL. As part of that arrangement we are under simracing.org.uk for league administration, this is why "Hosted by DaveGymer.com" is at the bottom of all sections of SRou.
The website: the code is primarily managed by Badblood and Phil due to their experience with the underlying code structure (I believe this is PHP but they know best, so don't take that as gospel). Some of the content was recently updated to be more current, but it integrates nicely into SRou events on ukgpl.com and links to ukgpl.com nicely under the UKGPL banner on SRou. Dave Gymer hosts this alongside SRou.
The forums: hosted by SRou, see above.
The paypal account was managed by Vosblod, whom is not really active any more, but still occasionally stops by. The original quarterly cost was based on shared usage of Team7's GPL server hosted by Gamesclan, however last year it developed a misfire as it came under attack (Denial of Service attempt) and had to be retired from usage in 2014. As a result, we rely on UKGPL3 (BadBlood), UKGPL8 (Cookie) and UKGPL9 (Turkey Machine) for race hosting. For now, UKGPL8 and UKGPL9 are the go-to servers for race hosting. UKGPL3 hasn't yet been tested with 60fps and BadBlood has real life commitments that prevent him from being around as often as he would like.
In terms of ongoing costs, realistically there are none. UKGPL relies on donations and race participation for survival. This is a hobby after all! I contribute my time and resource because I want to, and those on the moderation side do so because they want to.
I hope that clears this up. There is nothing stopping UKGPL members contributing directly to SRou's fund if they would like to (e.g. a fiver per member per annum) but there is no obligation to do so.
