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« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2010, 08:51:53 PM +0000 » |
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have you tried it at Monaco yet Prib? pretty good fun actually and i am not an elan fan.
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« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2010, 11:52:54 PM +0000 » |
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Not quite on Clive's pace yet  Best so far 1.49.1, but a 48 is definitely in there as I was 0.6 off my previous best at the first split on that lap! Great car on this track & I usually hate Monaco. |
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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2010, 10:31:33 AM +0000 » |
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If I'm reading it correctly, always a risk, then when MoTeC glues together all my very best bits then there is a 1:44.883 in there.
Which just goes to show what a mess I'm making of it at 1:48.4!
But plenty of room for the "tentacled ones" to slither into the 47 and 46s.
I must say that the Elan at this version of Monaco is pure joy compared to the 67 GPL version and the Lotus 49! Particularly at the chicane!!! Love the sense of acceleration coming out of Mirabeau!
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« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2010, 05:26:10 PM +0000 » |
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1:47.6 with racepace and default setup so with a bit of work I hope to find some more pace. Gearing is really difficult to get right.
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« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2010, 06:05:50 PM +0000 » |
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« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2010, 06:06:02 PM +0000 » |
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Just realised I'll be in London village tomorrow so won't make the race  |
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Mike Miller
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« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2010, 12:51:32 AM +0000 » |
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Did a bit of practice tonight. Love the track, not the car. The Elan is an odd duck. It is suited to this track though. I don't like it's twitchy nature and I'm finding it difficult to find a setup to my liking. I've got a meeting tomorrow afternoon, but will likely make the race. I don't think I'll have much more practice time though.
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« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2010, 09:14:14 AM +0000 » |
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I have tried a few laps last night, but after 2 laps I just quit, I was strugling and having no fun at all driving this car at Monaco. Huge understeer (worst than a FWD car) and lots of oversteering when exiting corners. A nightmare. I guess I will race only for the team points with the fun factor disabled.  |
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« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2010, 10:10:34 AM +0000 » |
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I want to know what your setup was PR, at no stage would the car understeer for me! The easy nature of the elan in GTL bares no relation the one here, its far too tail happy. Any of the braking areas and the back comes round as i'm turning in, any movement in the steering wheel while trying to brake sends it around. Whether its to do with no brake temps not sure but even on 55% bias it still does it. I've tried max dampers on the rear to try and slow the movement and max on the front to stiffen the car it has little affect.
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« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2010, 10:41:26 AM +0000 » |
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It's a bit odd to me, honestly, it seems that I never been able to setup the Elans, GTL or P&G.
I have huge understeer while cornering even with no throttle applied. At the exits I have lots
of natural Elan's oversteering, last setup I tried was with really soft suspension and low power/coast values.
But I just can't feel the car right. Undoubtadly a car that doesn't suit my driving style and poor hability I guess.
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« Reply #40 on: March 11, 2010, 11:44:20 AM +0000 » |
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I should ask Ade. He was lapping in the 1:46s last night. :'( It looked very agressive and he has promised to stuff it into the Armco before the end of the race.  |
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« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2010, 01:08:19 PM +0000 » |
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I find the brake bias setup is really critical on the Elan, just a small change can make a big difference to the cornering. I'm using 61/49 at the moment but still need to be a bit gentle on the brakes to avoid locking the fronts. A click or two more to the rear makes the car very unstable, whereas a click or two more to the front & the car won't turn. I'm using 20/80 power/coast diff settings, although I think I could come down a bit on the coast. Funny how two people can have almost completely opposite problems with a car.  |
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« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2010, 02:26:11 PM +0000 » |
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I'm in the understeer in and oversteer out camp. The car feels like driving a magic carpet in the sky.
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« Reply #43 on: March 11, 2010, 03:58:47 PM +0000 » |
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I'm in the understeer in and oversteer out camp. The car feels like driving a magic carpet in the sky.
Didn't anyone ring to arrange a meeting this afternoon Mike?  Just can't get the help these days.  I suppose you are suffering on this magic carpet at about 1:45.9ish? |
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« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2010, 05:34:13 PM +0000 » |
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The meeting is on and it looks like it just may run into the race. I've got my fingers crossed. I'm running low 46's.
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