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  • i2s Silverstone: March 16, 2010
March 16, 2010, 09:13:20 AM +0000 - Silverstone (International) - iRacing Season 2 Skippy - @iRacing.com
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Led Best Retirement
reason
Incidents
Kerr
 Team Shark
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#37) SBF2k 1 1:34.908
85.300mph
1 39:54.675
84.518mph
25 25 1:35.154
85.080mph
BFGoodrich  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 2 +0.093
85.217mph
2 +3.963
84.378mph
25   1:35.002
85.216mph
BFGoodrich 1
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 3 +0.191
85.129mph
3 +4.792
84.349mph
25   1:35.019
85.201mph
BFGoodrich 1
Brendan
 Kerb Crawlers
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 5 +0.209
85.113mph
4 +5.835
84.312mph
25   1:34.888
85.318mph
BFGoodrich 1
Fred Basset
 Kerb Crawlers
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 6 +0.399
84.943mph
5 +10.048
84.165mph
25   1:35.438
84.827mph
BFGoodrich  
Simmo
 Kerb Crawlers
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 4 +0.206
85.116mph
6 +10.690
84.142mph
25   1:35.419
84.844mph
BFGoodrich 5
Gazza49er
 Team Pseudo Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 11 +1.084
84.337mph
7 +17.810
83.894mph
25   1:35.550
84.727mph
BFGoodrich 2
Mike Wrightson
 Team Shark
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 8 +0.535
84.822mph
8 +37.469
83.216mph
25   1:35.716
84.580mph
BFGoodrich 13
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 14 +1.370
84.087mph
9 +38.168
83.192mph
25   1:35.590
84.692mph
BFGoodrich 7
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 15 +1.489
83.983mph
10 +47.099
82.887mph
25   1:35.770
84.533mph
BFGoodrich 2
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 17 +1.643
83.849mph
11 +53.027
82.687mph
25   1:36.691
83.727mph
BFGoodrich 3
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 12 +1.089
84.333mph
12 +53.301
82.677mph
25   1:35.932
84.390mph
BFGoodrich 10
Ken Murray
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 10 +0.680
84.694mph
13 +56.159
82.581mph
25   1:35.823
84.486mph
BFGoodrich 10
Noel Kellett
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#37) SBF2k 13 +1.323
84.128mph
14 (+2) +1:05.182
82.278mph
25   1:36.283
84.082mph
BFGoodrich 11
ross.mcw
 Prodigy Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 16 +1.631
83.859mph
15 +1:30.176
81.450mph
25   1:36.561
83.840mph
BFGoodrich 3
Ben "Welling" Summers
 Phoenix Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 20 +1.980
83.557mph
16 +1L 24   1:37.126
83.352mph
BFGoodrich 19
Burtoner
 Team Shark
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 22 +3.726
82.078mph
17 +14L 11   1:37.276
83.224mph
BFGoodrich 13
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#1) SBF2k 21 +2.534
83.082mph
18 (+4) +21L 4   1:36.704
83.716mph
Disco
BFGoodrich 8
Paul Thurston
 Epicurie Banana
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 9 +0.552
84.807mph
19 (+1) 4   1:36.381
83.997mph
BFGoodrich 10
purdie
 Legends Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 18 +1.725
83.778mph
20 (+2) +24L 1   ---
---
Disco
BFGoodrich 4
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 7 +0.494
84.859mph
21 1   ---
---
Disco
BFGoodrich 7
Don
 Legends Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#43) SBF2k 19 +1.897
83.629mph
22 +25L 0   ---
---
Disco
BFGoodrich 4

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 2s

Ken runs into the back of Mike Wrightson at Maggotts, spinning Mike off the track.

This looks bad until you see that the car ahead of Mike (Paul Thurston) suddenly backs off quite early. Paul's car is unfortuntely hidden from Mike at this precise moment and so Ken has no chance to anticipate the chain reaction that occurs. Mike has to lift to avoid hitting Paul and Ken goes into the back of him. While Ken might have shown a bit more care at this point, I feel many drivers would have been caught out in the same situation. As a result a warning seems a fair assessment.


Server replay time: 3s

The cars ahead brake much earlier than TT and he misses his braking point and runs wide into Don, damaging his car and effectively ending his race.

Ross, in front of TT, did brake very early, but TT should have shown more care here on lap 1 at what is possibly the most likely point for a crash on the circuit. He also had a decent gap to the car ahead but failed to react, so much so that he actually hit the next car. Drivers need to expect those ahead to be braking slightly early on lap 1 and so should be prepared to do the same thing. The penalty is mitigated by one place due to the early braking of the cars ahead.


Server replay time: 3s

Andy Purdy moves across into Mike Wrightson when avoiding a slowing Don (damaged after contact with TT).

Although Don did slow down, it was not by a great amount and Andy had plenty of time to assess the situation and react. I am unclear whether Andy knew if Mike was there, but either way he shouldn't have moved over.

Two things might have avoided this incident. The spotter works on road courses as well as ovals, so please use this very useful aid - it would have told andy there was a car alongside. Mike could also perhaps have anticipated Don slowing and moved right to allow Andy room in case he did move across.


Server replay time: 5s

Paul Thurston Clips Dan Minton braking for the hairpin and spins Dan off the track, damaging his car.

This is similar to the TT/Don incident, but Paul had less time to react. Dan clearly brakes very early, earlier in fact than pretty much every other driver in the front half of the field. Paul on the other hand leaves it very late and then locks up when he sees Dan brake. He nearly avoids Dan but clips his wheel.

Since Paul brakes at the same place as several of the leaders, it is hard to say that he didn't brake early enough. Dan was more than 10 mph slower than the quickest cars at the same point, and I think this was the main reason for the contact. However, Paul didn't react quickly enough to Dan braking, at a time when he should have been expecting it. As a result a reduced penalty seems the right call.




Server replay time: 5s

Paul Thurston runs wide into Brooklands and rejoins on the outside. Ken Murray is just behind and battling Gazza. Ken runs a bit wide too and lets Gazza down the inside, forcing him to stay wide. He then runs out to the exit curb, not realising that Paul is there and they collide. Paul's car then mates rather forcibly with Ken's, but fortunately there are no little skippies resulting ;-)

I see this much as the drivers do - an unfortunate racing incident, where neither driver knew the other was there nor expected them to be in that part of the track at that moment. Just one of those things.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 22s

Noel Kellett misses his braking point at the hairpin and hits Adam Parle.

Not much to add here, other than to say that being behind another car with no chance of an overtake you need to be extra careful to brake in time.

  • Noel Kellettpenalty — Rear end shunt — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 574s

TT is chasing Rob Burton into the hairpin. He gets no overlap under braking but tries to slide down the inside as Rob leaves a small gap, but runs wide and into Rob.

This move was never on as the gap was always going to close unless Rob was intimidated enough to leave the door open. He didn't and was quite entitled to turn in. TT should have been prepared to back out if this happened but was already committed. There really is no excuse for this.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
iRacing
SBF2k
1:34.908
85.300mph
Kerr
Qualifying
Skip Barber SBF2000March 16, 2010, 09:13:20 AM +0000
i2s
iRacing
SBF2k
1:34.888
85.318mph
Brendan
Race
Skip Barber SBF2000March 16, 2010, 09:13:20 AM +0000
i2s
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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2010, 12:29:46 PM +0000 »

1:36.6 and struggling, as I always do on these big tracks where there is too much tarmac to choose from. I like the track to be narrow, so the racing line is more obvious!!!

Ditto exactly!  I can see I've got some serious practice to do tonight.
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2010, 02:32:11 PM +0000 »

Latest Practice laptimes

Brendan Wright    1:34.8
Iain Mabbott       1:36.004
Adam Parle         1:36.3
Dave Gymer        1:36.4
Ken Murray         1:36.6
Don                   1:37
Ben Summers      1:37.010 (wahoo not last Smiley )
ross.mcw           1:38
Noel Kellett        1.38.472
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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2010, 04:56:37 PM +0000 »

If anyones still gunna be around for the last hour of practise i'll hopefully try and join when i get home from the footy at about 10ish.

Did manage to get a few low 35's but mainly low 36's
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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2010, 05:31:05 PM +0000 »

Latest Practice laptimes

Brendan Wright    1:34.8
Gary Hickman      1:35
Iain Mabbott       1:36.004
Adam Parle         1:36.3
Dave Gymer        1:36.4
Ken Murray         1:36.6
Don                   1:37
Ben Summers      1:37.010 (wahoo not last  )
ross.mcw           1:38
Noel Kellett        1.38.472

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« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2010, 08:09:40 PM +0000 »

Practice server is up
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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2010, 09:37:57 PM +0000 »

That was fun, managed to take 0.3s off my PB and into the 1:35's at last  Cool

Nice to be able to join in the praccy on a Monday for a change, cheers guys.
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« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2010, 09:42:51 PM +0000 »


Iain,  Sorry I tack it back.  Your setup is great... doing 1:37s easy Smiley

It was my wheel.  I seem to have to re-calibrate it every time I go into Iracing

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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2010, 10:00:37 PM +0000 »

Good stuff Ben, glad it worked in the end.
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« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2010, 11:03:43 PM +0000 »

Latest Practice laptimes

Brendan Wright    1:34.731
Gary Tall             1:35.135
Brian Kerr            1:35.388
Stuart Symonds   1:35.496
Gary Hickman      1:35.517
Ken Murray         1:35.669
Iain Mabbott       1:35.794
Paul Thurston      1:35.805
Ade Bate            1:36.004
Dan Minton         1:36.065
Ross McWilliam    1:36.623
Andy Purdie        1:36.719
Adam Parle         1:36.3
Dave Gymer        1:36.4
Donald Wright     1:36.916
Ben Summers      1:37.010
Noel Kellett        1.37.474
Mark Ekins          1:38.793
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« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2010, 11:23:39 PM +0000 »

Well eventually managed to creep in to the 35's after seemingly being stuck on a flat 36 no matter what I tried. I think it was the final corner that eventually made the difference. I had just been treating it to tentatively and not feeding the power in soon enough.
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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2010, 07:52:21 AM +0000 »

This was my first time on this circuit layout and I was really struggling. For some reason I always do struggle at Silverstone in all sims.

Before the race tonight I will have to make sure I put in a fair amount of practice.

One thing I noticed last night and I was doing myself, T3 to make sure you were driving straight to apply the brakes for T4 you had to use a lot of kerb and grass.

I'm surprised that iRacing does not flag this as a 1x.

4 wheels were inside the kerb but it does seem to be the natural and safest line with iRacing allowing this line too.

Any official word on this matter?
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« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2010, 08:00:31 AM +0000 »

I was cutting it too, but not to the extent of 4 wheels inside the kerb!! I think if in real life there is support under the grass, as there is here and at some of the Brands Hatch corners, then iRacing must be viewing it as part of the track.
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« Reply #27 on: March 16, 2010, 08:02:16 AM +0000 »

There are a few corners at Silverstone where you can take a large chunk off grass without a 1x.

IIRC, on the inside of T3 is matting (a la the exit of the final turn) so I presume it's part of the circuit and not part of the scenery.

I'd assume that if the game sim allows it, it's fair game.
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« Reply #28 on: March 16, 2010, 08:26:01 AM +0000 »

That's the line the real car take through there - barely touching the tarmac.  I assume that if iR is okay with it then so are we?
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« Reply #29 on: March 16, 2010, 08:40:32 AM +0000 »

It was my wheel.  I seem to have to re-calibrate it every time I go into Iracing

I find the game is ok when I first join the server but if the game loses focus for any reason the wheel becomes super sensitive. The options showing th wheel moving 3 times faster than me turning it. Pressing ESC while talking on TeamSpeak is one way it goes wrong.
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