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  • i2s Silverstone: March 16, 2010
March 16, 2010, 09:13:20 AM +0000 - Silverstone (International) - iRacing Season 2 Skippy - @iRacing.com
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Led Best Retirement
reason
Incidents
Kerr
 Team Shark
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#37) SBF2k 1 1:34.908
85.300mph
1 39:54.675
84.518mph
25 25 1:35.154
85.080mph
BFGoodrich  
Paul968
 Kerb Crawlers
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 2 +0.093
85.217mph
2 +3.963
84.378mph
25   1:35.002
85.216mph
BFGoodrich 1
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 3 +0.191
85.129mph
3 +4.792
84.349mph
25   1:35.019
85.201mph
BFGoodrich 1
Brendan
 Kerb Crawlers
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 5 +0.209
85.113mph
4 +5.835
84.312mph
25   1:34.888
85.318mph
BFGoodrich 1
Fred Basset
 Kerb Crawlers
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 6 +0.399
84.943mph
5 +10.048
84.165mph
25   1:35.438
84.827mph
BFGoodrich  
Simmo
 Kerb Crawlers
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 4 +0.206
85.116mph
6 +10.690
84.142mph
25   1:35.419
84.844mph
BFGoodrich 5
Gazza49er
 Team Pseudo Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 11 +1.084
84.337mph
7 +17.810
83.894mph
25   1:35.550
84.727mph
BFGoodrich 2
Mike Wrightson
 Team Shark
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 8 +0.535
84.822mph
8 +37.469
83.216mph
25   1:35.716
84.580mph
BFGoodrich 13
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 14 +1.370
84.087mph
9 +38.168
83.192mph
25   1:35.590
84.692mph
BFGoodrich 7
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 15 +1.489
83.983mph
10 +47.099
82.887mph
25   1:35.770
84.533mph
BFGoodrich 2
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 17 +1.643
83.849mph
11 +53.027
82.687mph
25   1:36.691
83.727mph
BFGoodrich 3
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 12 +1.089
84.333mph
12 +53.301
82.677mph
25   1:35.932
84.390mph
BFGoodrich 10
Ken Murray
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 10 +0.680
84.694mph
13 +56.159
82.581mph
25   1:35.823
84.486mph
BFGoodrich 10
Noel Kellett
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#37) SBF2k 13 +1.323
84.128mph
14 (+2) +1:05.182
82.278mph
25   1:36.283
84.082mph
BFGoodrich 11
ross.mcw
 Prodigy Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 16 +1.631
83.859mph
15 +1:30.176
81.450mph
25   1:36.561
83.840mph
BFGoodrich 3
Ben "Welling" Summers
 Phoenix Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 20 +1.980
83.557mph
16 +1L 24   1:37.126
83.352mph
BFGoodrich 19
Burtoner
 Team Shark
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 22 +3.726
82.078mph
17 +14L 11   1:37.276
83.224mph
BFGoodrich 13
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#1) SBF2k 21 +2.534
83.082mph
18 (+4) +21L 4   1:36.704
83.716mph
Disco
BFGoodrich 8
Paul Thurston
 Epicurie Banana
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 9 +0.552
84.807mph
19 (+1) 4   1:36.381
83.997mph
BFGoodrich 10
purdie
 Legends Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 18 +1.725
83.778mph
20 (+2) +24L 1   ---
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Disco
BFGoodrich 4
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#36) SBF2k 7 +0.494
84.859mph
21 1   ---
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Disco
BFGoodrich 7
Don
 Legends Racing
Skip Barber SBF2000 (#43) SBF2k 19 +1.897
83.629mph
22 +25L 0   ---
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Disco
BFGoodrich 4

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Ken runs into the back of Mike Wrightson at Maggotts, spinning Mike off the track.

This looks bad until you see that the car ahead of Mike (Paul Thurston) suddenly backs off quite early. Paul's car is unfortuntely hidden from Mike at this precise moment and so Ken has no chance to anticipate the chain reaction that occurs. Mike has to lift to avoid hitting Paul and Ken goes into the back of him. While Ken might have shown a bit more care at this point, I feel many drivers would have been caught out in the same situation. As a result a warning seems a fair assessment.


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The cars ahead brake much earlier than TT and he misses his braking point and runs wide into Don, damaging his car and effectively ending his race.

Ross, in front of TT, did brake very early, but TT should have shown more care here on lap 1 at what is possibly the most likely point for a crash on the circuit. He also had a decent gap to the car ahead but failed to react, so much so that he actually hit the next car. Drivers need to expect those ahead to be braking slightly early on lap 1 and so should be prepared to do the same thing. The penalty is mitigated by one place due to the early braking of the cars ahead.


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Andy Purdy moves across into Mike Wrightson when avoiding a slowing Don (damaged after contact with TT).

Although Don did slow down, it was not by a great amount and Andy had plenty of time to assess the situation and react. I am unclear whether Andy knew if Mike was there, but either way he shouldn't have moved over.

Two things might have avoided this incident. The spotter works on road courses as well as ovals, so please use this very useful aid - it would have told andy there was a car alongside. Mike could also perhaps have anticipated Don slowing and moved right to allow Andy room in case he did move across.


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Paul Thurston Clips Dan Minton braking for the hairpin and spins Dan off the track, damaging his car.

This is similar to the TT/Don incident, but Paul had less time to react. Dan clearly brakes very early, earlier in fact than pretty much every other driver in the front half of the field. Paul on the other hand leaves it very late and then locks up when he sees Dan brake. He nearly avoids Dan but clips his wheel.

Since Paul brakes at the same place as several of the leaders, it is hard to say that he didn't brake early enough. Dan was more than 10 mph slower than the quickest cars at the same point, and I think this was the main reason for the contact. However, Paul didn't react quickly enough to Dan braking, at a time when he should have been expecting it. As a result a reduced penalty seems the right call.




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Paul Thurston runs wide into Brooklands and rejoins on the outside. Ken Murray is just behind and battling Gazza. Ken runs a bit wide too and lets Gazza down the inside, forcing him to stay wide. He then runs out to the exit curb, not realising that Paul is there and they collide. Paul's car then mates rather forcibly with Ken's, but fortunately there are no little skippies resulting ;-)

I see this much as the drivers do - an unfortunate racing incident, where neither driver knew the other was there nor expected them to be in that part of the track at that moment. Just one of those things.

  • Racing incident


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Noel Kellett misses his braking point at the hairpin and hits Adam Parle.

Not much to add here, other than to say that being behind another car with no chance of an overtake you need to be extra careful to brake in time.

  • Noel Kellettpenalty — Rear end shunt — 2 places lost


Server replay time: 574s

TT is chasing Rob Burton into the hairpin. He gets no overlap under braking but tries to slide down the inside as Rob leaves a small gap, but runs wide and into Rob.

This move was never on as the gap was always going to close unless Rob was intimidated enough to leave the door open. He didn't and was quite entitled to turn in. TT should have been prepared to back out if this happened but was already committed. There really is no excuse for this.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
iRacing
SBF2k
1:34.908
85.300mph
Kerr
Qualifying
Skip Barber SBF2000March 16, 2010, 09:13:20 AM +0000
i2s
iRacing
SBF2k
1:34.888
85.318mph
Brendan
Race
Skip Barber SBF2000March 16, 2010, 09:13:20 AM +0000
i2s
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« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2010, 10:23:10 PM +0000 »

Well all the good fortune that came my way in the last skippy race was wiped out in this one. Qualified nicely in mid pack and rounded T1 OK. As we approached the tricky T2/T3 everyone seemed really slow. I did ease off a fair bit myself but as we clipped the apex of the the left handed kink Mike slowed even more just as I had started to brush a bit of throttle back on. I braked hard but still nudged him off track. Obviously all my fault, but was there some sort of chain reaction going on ahead of me? I couldn't see the reason for slowing so much at that point.

Anyway apart from a crumpled nose I was OK so proceeded on chasing Paul T. As we entered the complex on lap 2 Paul went off track. I could see Gary dive to my inside as we turned in to the penultimate corner so I stayed wide and looked to grab the inside line in to the final corner. Out of my view Paul was now rejoining and we just ran in to each other and his car climbed on top of mine!! I was now virtually dead last and had slightly bent suspension. I plugged away and ever so slowly caught the group ahead. Just as I got on Ian's tail I thought I'd got T1 perfect. Just judged it nicely to use all the rumble strip but not the grass. However I had never noticed if you stay on the rumble strip all the way to the end it actually makes you just clip the grass, it doesn't blend back in to tarmac, there is a short patch of grass, and wham it just spun me round instantly. All that hard work thrown away in a moment. There wasn't many laps left after that but I did get some positions due to others spinning.

Sorry to Mike for lap 1, especially after our dressing down by the officials after Brands!!!
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« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2010, 10:29:58 PM +0000 »

Here comes a rant from me.
Dire from my point of view, all that talk about safe driving, all I saw during the Qually session was yellow flags and cars off at the side of the road. The race didn't seem to be that much different for the the 3 corners I managed before my race was finished for me.
I may sit out the rest of the season at least, and use what precious time I have to sim race on pick-up races at IR, the odds of me finishing without any contact would seem to be greater.
Putting 3 hours practice in each week to try run safely here just isn't working out for me.
Good luck for the rest of the season.

IR and SR, hell yeah! lol.
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« Reply #47 on: March 16, 2010, 10:43:03 PM +0000 »

Dire from my point of view, all that talk about safe driving, all I saw during the Qually session was yellow flags and cars off at the side of the road. The race didn't seem to be that much different for the the 3 corners I managed before my race was finished for me.

I take it you'll be submitting an incident report then, Don?

I fell off once at the start of qually after which I think I ran incident free despite some major moments. There were an awful lot of cars on track at once compared to an official iRacing Skippy session (max 14 there I think) and with such a spread of abilities practice and qualifying being a short session it was always going to be hectic.
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« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2010, 11:02:34 PM +0000 »

Should we not increase the qually to 20 or even 30 minutes. Why was 15 minutes chosen?
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« Reply #49 on: March 17, 2010, 12:02:27 AM +0000 »

+1 to that Ken.

I was absolutely rubbish in practice, from a 35.1 last night to struggling in the high 35's, it was like I was driving a different car, qually was not much better although from somewhere pulled out a 35.3 and went second for a while.

The race was better, settled down to chase first Brendan and then Stuart, after about seven laps I learned how to drive again. Just a shame I had a bright red Skippy stuck in front of me. I think Stuart and I were around half a second apart for the first 23 laps and then finally the mistake came and I nipped past young Simmo whilst he attempted to grasstrack round Woodcote. I then drove 2 fairly slow laps to ensure I kept the place.

Great fun Stuart.

So I did not spin in the race this time, next time I really must get qually right Roll Eyes

Congrats to Brian, Paul and Dave

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« Reply #50 on: March 17, 2010, 12:05:46 AM +0000 »

Bugger - think I might have had a chance at the win there. Qual was pants again but sneaked 2nd late on to put me between Brian and Dave on the grid. Brian and I slowly eaked out a lead and once it was a couple of seconds Dave seemed to drop back a bit more quickly. It was really intense for the first 20 or so laps chasing Brian as at first he was so consistent. Then he started making a few slips, mainly into the hairpin but also at maggots/beckets. I had a few trial runs into the hairpin and knew I could brake deeper there but his car was always in the way. When I got a chance I felt there was a gap on the inside but stupidly I missed the braking point by concentrating on Brian's car, which sent me into the gravel and left me only 1 second ahead of the Dave/Brendan battle. I needed a lap or 2 to settle down and make sure the tyres were OK by which time Dave was pretty close. Luckily he was pushing pretty hard and making the odd mistake too, so I could drive just within the limit and keep 2nd to the flag. Grats to Brian and also to Dave who was very quick in the last section. I think I will have a look at my lines in the skippy as I lost out to Brian there too.
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« Reply #51 on: March 17, 2010, 12:07:23 AM +0000 »

12.02 Mr T? It must be almost nearer breakfast than bedtime for you!
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« Reply #52 on: March 17, 2010, 12:29:47 AM +0000 »

Still here, I get a lay in now on Wednesdays as I work up North, don't need to get up until 6am then.

Off to bed now!

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« Reply #53 on: March 17, 2010, 05:55:36 AM +0000 »

Bugger - think I might have had a chance at the win there. Qual was pants again but sneaked 2nd late on to put me between Brian and Dave on the grid. Brian and I slowly eaked out a lead and once it was a couple of seconds Dave seemed to drop back a bit more quickly. It was really intense for the first 20 or so laps chasing Brian as at first he was so consistent. Then he started making a few slips, mainly into the hairpin but also at maggots/beckets. I had a few trial runs into the hairpin and knew I could brake deeper there but his car was always in the way. When I got a chance I felt there was a gap on the inside but stupidly I missed the braking point by concentrating on Brian's car, which sent me into the gravel and left me only 1 second ahead of the Dave/Brendan battle. I needed a lap or 2 to settle down and make sure the tyres were OK by which time Dave was pretty close. Luckily he was pushing pretty hard and making the odd mistake too, so I could drive just within the limit and keep 2nd to the flag. Grats to Brian and also to Dave who was very quick in the last section. I think I will have a look at my lines in the skippy as I lost out to Brian there too.

Did you race with Brendan's setup?

The 1 ARB helps a lot through T3 and T4 but I find that corners where you were heavy on the throttle it would not turn in well enough for me in the last section.
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« Reply #54 on: March 17, 2010, 07:58:02 AM +0000 »

I was a tad disappointed with qually.  Couldn't hook up a decent lap and lined up 5th on the grid with a 35.1. 

Start was clean and I followed Simmo for 3 or 4 laps until he ran wide at T1 and gave me 4th place.  I then set about trying to reel in the 2 second gap to Dave which proved a lot more diffcult than I had anticipated. 

By about lap 15 the gap had reduced to around half a second and when Dave made a small mistake into T2/3, I took the opportunity to nip by on the inside.  I didn't get a great run onto the back straight and promptly out-braked myself at the hairpin and gifted Dave the place back.  The duelling continued over the next couple of laps and although I nudged infront a few times, I couldn't make it stick.

So, hats of to Dave on a fine drive under pressure with very few mistakes and grats to Brian and Paul also.

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« Reply #55 on: March 17, 2010, 08:28:48 AM +0000 »

Yep - this goes into the "what might have been" pile too ....

I was pleased to finally break into the 1:35's at the end of qually, can't really complain wiht a new PB - especially given how busy the session was.

The race started ok, although Shark got past me into Bridge early on, side by side, I had to lift to get round the corner, and the let Simon carry more speed round the corner and safely past.  I seemed to lose focus, and never got close enough to attempt a pass, although we both made enough mistakes to keep things interesting.

A lack of consistency through T2/3 cost me dearly, barring the tap from Noel that's where all my IP came from, one silly spin and a few off tracks.

After my spin I was behind Pops - nooooooooooooooooooooooooo.  With a beer to the victor I did my utmost to get back in front, and we had a few cracking laps - and a very close finish - for some really enjoyable driving.

Without the mistakes it could have been very different .... but isn't that always the case.

Looking forward to the next race.
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« Reply #56 on: March 17, 2010, 08:42:23 AM +0000 »

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Did you race with Brendan's setup?

The 1 ARB helps a lot through T3 and T4 but I find that corners where you were heavy on the throttle it would not turn in well enough for me in the last section.

No, I ran a modification of my silverstone setup from last time which had 4 ARB. The place I seemed to lose out was bridge, which I think was down to line. You and Dave carried more speed through it and compromised the line for priory a bit, whereas I was trying to stay right to open up priory. This is a longer line though and I think it showed. What I would say though is that it was possibly a safer race line, as if you mess it up there are more options open to you.
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« Reply #57 on: March 17, 2010, 09:34:55 AM +0000 »

Replay from last night;

http://www.legendsracing.net/iracing/SRouk_Silverstone_I_Skip.rar
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« Reply #58 on: March 17, 2010, 09:39:50 AM +0000 »

I thoroughly enjoyed it.  The standard of driving in the front gaggle was very high.  Only 10 seconds between the top 6.

I had a scruffy qualifying, spun on the first lap and decided to wait until everyone went by to get some clear air.  After a few laps settling in again I put in a PB of 1:35.1 which to my surprise put me on pole!!  In my shock I binned it on the exit of T4 so decided to park it and watch as there were only 4 minutes left.  Ended up 4th which was ok.

Got a good clean start and everyone was very sensible round the first few corners.  Struggled to settle for a while and was losing ground to Dave but keeping Brendan at bay. Made a mistake on lap 4ish at T1 letting Brendan by but following him actually helped me settle.  Gap to Gary in 6th was fairly stable at about 0.6 for the first 20 laps.  When we all caught Welling it helped me get back onto Dave and Brendan and when they started squabbling I had a look at Brendan into the tight hairpin but he slammed the door shut.  I stayed between 1-2 seconds behind Brendan until the penultimate lap when I ran wide at the last corner allowing Gary to sneak passed!!  Gutted!!

Was a very enjoyable race and it was great watching the fight between Dave and Brendan, I was sure you were both going to come off when you went side by side though Bridge!!
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« Reply #59 on: March 17, 2010, 03:16:07 PM +0000 »

I had a terrible qually session, dunno what happened to me  Undecided so started a bit down in 11th.

Start was good and a few spun which put me in 8th. Got up to 7th and was kind of staying with Gary and Stuart for pace but 2 secs behind and i just couldn't close the gap even though i was banging in mid 35's which was as fast as i had gone in any session. After lapping Welling i was a bit closer to Gary and i started to push but i realised i had started with 3.8 fuel and it might not be enough so i slowed down to make sure i finished  Embarrassed  i started spluttering at T3 on the last lap so was pretty close.  Bit of a shame coz i might of been able to race the two ahead in the last few laps if i had enough fuel.

Grats Brian, Paul and Dave
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