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March 23, 2010, 10:07:14 AM +0000 - Road America (Full) - iRacing Season 2 IndyCar - @iRacing.com
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Led Best Retirement
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Kerr
 Team Shark
Dallara IndyCar (#37) ChampCar 1 1:49.471
133.131mph
1 41:30.840
128.723mph
22 18 1:50.876
131.444mph
Firestone  
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 4 +1.338
131.524mph
2 +19.242
127.736mph
22   1:51.729
130.441mph
Firestone  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 6 +1.605
131.208mph
3 +23.519
127.519mph
22   1:51.817
130.338mph
Firestone 2
Darren Seal
 Legends Racing
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 5 +1.575
131.243mph
4 +27.744
127.305mph
22   1:51.683
130.495mph
Firestone 2
Paul Richards
 Legends Racing
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 3 +0.581
132.429mph
5 +30.336
127.174mph
22   1:51.097
131.183mph
Firestone 4
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 8 +1.906
130.853mph
6 +48.600
126.260mph
22   1:52.559
129.479mph
Firestone  
Mike Wrightson
 Team Shark
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 11 +2.458
130.208mph
7 +50.455
126.168mph
22   1:52.372
129.695mph
Firestone 5
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 10 +2.275
130.421mph
8 +1:21.155
124.662mph
22   1:53.098
128.862mph
Firestone 10
Dan Minton
 Team RVS
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 2 +0.272
132.802mph
9 +1:22.059
124.618mph
22 4 1:50.645
131.719mph
Firestone 4
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 14 +3.354
129.174mph
10 +1:37.020
123.897mph
22   1:53.555
128.343mph
Firestone 4
Ben "Welling" Summers
 Phoenix Racing
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 17 11 +8L 14   1:56.688
124.897mph
Firestone 12
picnic
 Team Shark
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 13 +3.350
129.178mph
12 +17L 5   1:53.244
128.696mph
Disco
Firestone 7
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 15 +4.178
128.237mph
13 5   1:54.086
127.746mph
Disco
Firestone 5
purdie
 Legends Racing
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 7 +1.846
130.924mph
14 +18L 4   1:52.541
129.500mph
Disco
Firestone 4
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Dallara IndyCar (#1) ChampCar 9 +2.247
130.454mph
15 (+2) +19L 3   1:53.148
128.805mph
Disco
Firestone 5
Burtoner
 Team Shark
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 16 +4.206
128.206mph
16 +20L 2   2:00.629
120.817mph
Disco
Firestone 2
Brendan
 Kerb Crawlers
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 12 +2.686
129.943mph
17 +21L 1   ---
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Disco
Firestone 6
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 19 18 +22L 0   ---
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Disco
Firestone  
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Dallara IndyCar (#36) ChampCar 18 19 0   ---
---
Disco
Firestone  

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Server replay time: 407s

Brendan takes to the inside of James into the turn but doesn't really have much overlap, James fails to spot the move and turns into him, making contact and half spins, forcing Brendan to a near-stop and Pete unavoidably makes contact with Brendans rear.

James is a little tentative going into the turn which catches Brendan out as he's following quite closely.

I accept this wasn't an attempt at a pass but on lap 1 I'd rather see drivers giving exercise caution than trying to jockey for position so the responsibility must lie with Brendan. The mitigating circumstance of James slow corner entry lead me to offer a warning for this incident.


Server replay time: 737s

Truetom makes contact with Mike Wrightson under heavy braking into T3. This is a tricky corner and is a very heavy braking zone for the next turn which is pretty slow.

Mike brakes at an entirely reasonable point, Truetom isn't following especially closely but fails to get slowed down enough and hits Mike's rear.

A bit more caution needs to be shown in a difficult area of the track.


Server replay time: 2910s

Dan makes contact with James in the last turn of the last lap.

Dan has a huge speed advantage over James and is racing for position. James takes the last turn very slowly which catches Dan out and runs into the back of him, pushing him onto the grass. Dan gains no advantage as he waits for James to re-join and compete the race.

Rear-end contact will mostly attract a penalty but the mitigating circumstances of James' very slow cornering and Dan waiting for him to re-join means I'll reduce this to a warning but it's a borderline penalty.

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« Reply #75 on: March 24, 2010, 03:19:43 PM +0000 »

What I have noticed is during practice the pit entry, exit and speed rules are always more relaxed.

Spending more time in the Dallara in recent weeks I was often confused why I could practice and be setting very consistent times, yet in the race I would be slower.

During the race the car feels more stable too. I was convincing myself it was just me driving with a little more caution without giving any thought to doing so.

Then reading the forums I picked up on parts of a thread that said that during practice, certain conditions are not replicated. I.E altitude and wind etc.

I thought it was odd, but in all aspects I'd like to be able to practice like for like so I know how much I can get away with,
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« Reply #76 on: March 24, 2010, 03:53:52 PM +0000 »

Just my apologies to Brendan, I went wide and off track on last corner of lap 2, only to hit wall, and come back onto the track, he had to make a decision left or right and ended up hitting the pitwall entrance, apologies.
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« Reply #77 on: March 24, 2010, 03:55:35 PM +0000 »

Sorry Paul I think that was me, hadn't I just passed another recovering Legend and this put me off line. I find that corner hard enough when on a more normal line and thus took it steady. I saw you sideways in my mirror and I didn't know if that was because of me or not.

Hey not your fault Pete in any way! I should have been much more cautious. I had been following Dan through there every lap of the race up until that point so it was up to me to engage brain and consider I was following different cars and adjust accordingly. I didnt give it any thought at all until the very last second then it was "oh carp...hit brakes....spin!" Definately my own doign that one, was glad to not knock you off!
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« Reply #78 on: March 24, 2010, 05:39:48 PM +0000 »

I didn't realise you needed to be registered as the download link seemed to be live when I wasn't but nothing happened when I clicked it(does that make sense?). 

Should be fixed now, no need to register.
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« Reply #79 on: March 24, 2010, 06:28:35 PM +0000 »

Thx Simon. Unfortunately I'd already registered on the Team Shark website - oh the shame!  Embarrassed Shocked Grin
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« Reply #80 on: March 24, 2010, 11:30:05 PM +0000 »

I was thinking about my experience in this race (& when we did Watkins, which I enjoyed a lot) & was wondering how many people actually overtook somebody? (not including when they made a noticeable mistake)

Does the Indy Car help replicate F1's no overtaking races too easily? Undecided
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« Reply #81 on: March 25, 2010, 12:56:30 AM +0000 »

Does the Indy Car help replicate F1's no overtaking races too easily? Undecided

No, because you can follow in the tow.
No, because you have bigger differences in setup.
No, because you have brakes you need to press a long way before the corner still.
No, because you have a lot bigger differences in talent.
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« Reply #82 on: March 25, 2010, 01:39:57 AM +0000 »

...and you still couldn't overtake?  Tongue
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« Reply #83 on: March 25, 2010, 07:58:04 AM +0000 »

As I said in the F1 thread, overtaking isn't meant to be easy... it's just meant to be possible.

Check out how close Simon and I are throughout much of the second stint, then think how often you see cars able to travel that closely in F1...
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« Reply #84 on: March 25, 2010, 08:32:38 AM +0000 »

I've been passed plenty of times in the Dallara so it's certainly possible! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #85 on: March 25, 2010, 08:39:27 AM +0000 »

Lol !! lol and me! lol
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« Reply #86 on: March 25, 2010, 08:48:28 AM +0000 »

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Check out how close Simon and I are throughout much of the second stint, then think how often you see cars able to travel that closely in F1...

All the time ..... from 1985 to 1989.


Will be interesting to see what the V8 Supercar is like for racing/overtaking , Got a feeling its going to be a tricky car to drive with its spool diff so should create more overtaking opportunities .

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« Reply #87 on: March 25, 2010, 08:54:16 AM +0000 »

I think the V8 could produce some good racing although having been'stung to some extent by the changes to the Dallara I'm tempted to say let's leave any new cars a season to 'mature' before we use them in an SRouk league.
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« Reply #88 on: March 25, 2010, 09:45:55 AM +0000 »

Hopefully the V8SC will be awesome - I just hope it doesn't turn out like the Corvette, with no steering feel and horrible on-throttle oversteer.
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« Reply #89 on: March 25, 2010, 10:22:53 AM +0000 »

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Hopefully the V8SC will be awesome - I just hope it doesn't turn out like the Corvette, with no steering feel and horrible on-throttle oversteer.

If they get it right with the way the diff is locked it should be a tricky car to get turned in, it will always want to push a lilttle which means using the throttle and brakes to transfer weight before the corner more important. It should be oversteery on exit but it should be controlable ...fingers crossed.

Going on what Ben collins said when he tested one for Autosport last year.  A good read if youve still got the mag.
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