UKPnG Season 2 - Shot Glass Challenge - Brands Hatch (GP) - Apr 22

[Mark J]

works offline though Ade  

i tried exiting the game and or lobby but no joy.

Brands2005 appears in the locations folder. Take it thats the right one. Have raced here before at with P&G srouk no problem

[spanner]

They seem to update the tracks without telling us so i'd recomend re-downloading it and making sure its in the right place.

[Legzy]

It's going to be the Mustang NTK gr5 (not the BSCC gr2)


I should be embarrassed, but luckily all the Mustangs use the same setup give or take a click & drive very similar... 

Not sure what to suggest MJ... remember it's the UK version we're using

[ginsters sponsored]

So its simply Stang NTK versus Elite? No trans am Stang?

Not griping just want some clarification Its gonna be fun anyways.

[Clive Loynes]

It's going to be the Mustang NTK gr5 (not the BSCC gr2)


I should be embarrassed, but luckily all the Mustangs use the same setup give or take a click & drive very similar... 

Not sure what to suggest MJ... remember it's the UK version we're using

Humph!

[Mark J]

well i downloaded the track from the first post in this thread only last night so cant see how i could be running a different version.

I was doing 1:50 in the BSCC gr2 stang...but i see thats changed again anyway. Im gonna be an Elite pilot assuming i can get on.
Can someone test the install link on here to see where it may be popping up. Last night only the Humyo link was working. The other had the files missing according to the host.

[ginsters sponsored]

well i downloaded the track from the first post in this thread only last night so cant see how i could be running a different version.

The UKGTR installer created a GTR2 folder within PnG for me but as I had another version of Brands Hatch I didn't notice it, apart from getting booted from server. I simply dragged it out from GTR2 folder and placed it in locations, works now. Double check that the right version is in the right place?

[Clive Loynes]

The UKGTR installer created a GTR2 folder within PnG for me but as I had another version of Brands Hatch I didn't notice it, apart from getting booted from server. I simply dragged it out from GTR2 folder and placed it in locations, works now. Double check that the right version is in the right place?

It did that to me too the first time.  After that I noticed that it had put \GTR\ on the end of the file location after I had selected my PnG install.

I just removed the GTR bit an all was well.

Speaking as a newbie, who needs lots of practice before these races, I must say that finding out which cars can be used on the morning of the race just doesn't work for me!

No news on Oran Park yet either.  

Legzy's work rate on our behalf has been enormous but I just question the practicalities of this format unless the race director has a team of thousands working behind him.  Can we keep it simple?  A Mustang race or an Elite race would have been fine by me, why make it difficult?

[Paul968]

While I agree that the amount of work needed for this format is crazy, it shouldn't affect you that much Clive. The Mustangs all drive in much the same way and a setup that works for one should largely work for the others too.

[Clive Loynes]

I agree about the setups Paul, I have used much the same on all variants.

Just a bit miffed that having done simulated half length race runs on x6 tyre and fuel using the BSCC on its Firestones I can now chuck all that out of the window and just guess what the NTK on its Dunlops might need.  My conclusion was that my Elite and my BSCC were very close over race distance, assuming the Elite will go the distance on a tank full.

The Indy Ws 104 tyres on the BSCC are rated 7 on grip and medium on wear.  I reckoned that I was good for 18 laps on them = a tank full of juice.  This would have allowed me to minimise the amount of fuel needed to go in at the pit stop, saving time.

The CR65 970 Dunlops are rated 8 in grip, which is why the car appears to be a bit quicker.  But they are rated as soft.  I suspect that they will be shot before the fuel has run out.  The alternative tyre is the CR65 184 but that is rated at 6 on grip and will, I suppose, be near the BSCC on Firestones.  Just guessing you understand, with a possible whole hour of practice time left, max!

I am left wondering why we needed this late change.   

In the end, I think that I am better off going for the Elite, although I hate the heap!  That way, I do not run the risk of messing up the pit stop and as I have already done some practice with it, which strangely enough is still valid, I stand more chance of building on that rather than messing with the NTK.  Despite it being the same on paper, I have always found it a little more "tail happy" than the BSCC.

[Paul968]

Clearly the decision was taken in the interests of a close race - Chris thought that the bscc was just not quick enough to compete with the Elite. I think I'd agree with him that the car change is a price worth paying given that the 2 cars are not very different.

[Clive Loynes]

But are they different?

The power and weight are the same.  It all hinges on how far into the race the CR65 970 tyres last before they become a liability.  If the NTK has to split the race into two equal halves then it will have to stand still in the pits for a bit longer.

I don't know the answer and nobody else seems to either.  I might as well select my car by tossing a coin.

Those who have already selected the Elite are sitting pretty.

[spanner]

That's kinda the point of the race Clive and why Legzy has had to spend alot of time trying to work it all out (hopefully )

[phspok]

I put the harder tyres on the front of the NTK and it understeers far worse than any of the others
i tried. I can't drive the Elite effectively, but the NTK is masochism, If I feel like some self harm
when I get home I will join.

[Madd-RIP]

  Have a good one tonight guys, I've not had a chance to turn a wheel, and as pc has been a bit flaky also I'd not want to waste a slot, plus I'm going backwards lately!