iRacing Season 3 Star Mazda - Sebring (International) - May 4

[Ken Murray]

Just got everything back together at about 10.00pm this evening so missed all the fun!! But isn't this car absolutely right on the money now. I have just been to a public session at Road America and I was grinning from ear to ear. You can catch slides, you can ride curbs and generally just have a blast. I managed a mid 2:04 and looking at the few qually times posted so far that isn't far off the mark. Roll on Brands Hatch!!

[Dan Minton]

Well not a good start to the season.  Got mugged at the start and had John to the left of me and someone else to the right and just caught Johns rear wheel which sent me flying.  Luckily enough i never wiped nobody else out apart from John who spun but then i dont know who's fault the incident was . Cant quite work it out as we touched before i had a chance to turn in.

Grats to Podium.

Anyway on to the next one which should be good.. The mazda at Brands is great fun!!




Ken i totally agree with you... Car is much better to drive now , Feels like a kart.

[JohnBayes]

Dan sorry about that t1, as I turned in I actually thought I was hit from the rear but turns out it was you outside me, I thought we turned in together but you had to turn in a little sharper being on the outside, may have been lag though really sorry, car was horrible to drive after that could not turn into any left hander at all and struggled to keep anyone behind me never mind overtake anyone, finally got a little more used to the handling and caught up the bunch in front but could not really pass anyone with the car as it was.

Sorry to whoever it was I hit into the final corner did not expect you to brake to early there but totally my fault apologies

Always the worst thing when your race effectively ends in t1

And yes fantastic to drive now they fixed the kerb issue

Well not a good start to the season.  Got mugged at the start and had John to the left of me and someone else to the right and just caught Johns rear wheel which sent me flying.  Luckily enough i never wiped nobody else out apart from John who spun but then i dont know who's fault the incident was . Cant quite work it out as we touched before i had a chance to turn in.

Grats to Podium.

Anyway on to the next one which should be good.. The mazda at Brands is great fun!!




Ken i totally agree with you... Car is much better to drive now , Feels like a kart.

[Blunder]

I reckon we're approaching the time where we start dishing out yellow/red cards & race bans. Simon was right, having a reset or not is not targeting the problem. Thoughtless selfish driving. (Now give me back my reset )

Seconded, resets don't fix the issue! I really want the srou iracing leagues to work out but may be this is the type of pain we have to through until we get it right?

For the record, I entered turn 1 and saw cars everywhere, tyre smoke... eased off to avoid a spinning car and got rear ended! 

The great fun we had monday night on the practice server is my only consolation.

Looked roughly to me that 2nd, 3rd and 4th went into T1 side by side, lost it and took out the leader!

I'm not naming names on purpose as I personally don't hold any one person responsible, I just want us all to approach this better in future!? 

[Simon Gymer]

We could (should?) do single file rolling starts and ignore the built in rolling start. So you set the server to standing start and we do a regulation SRou rolling start like we do in UKGTR. I think most of us know that procedure by now and it works well to space the cars out and stop these situations where there are a lot of cars too close together for the first few corners of Lap 1.

The replay says it all really. There is no particularly stupid move or anything at the front. Poor old Gary in the lead gets taken out with the contact between John and Dan and then everyone else is just trying to avoid it all, some more easily than others. It does make me annoyed that some drivers can't just accept losing a position and get through T1 and then race for the remaining 19.9 laps than *shock horror* let off the throttle and make sure there is a gap for everyone at least at the start!

Our normal rolling start procedure would have helped last night because there wouldn't be that many cars going into T1 on Lap 1 battling for position. There would be gaps between everyone and we'd probably all get through bar anyone losing it on the bump. Perhaps we can consider using it in future?

[popabawa]

I've always tried to treat the double file rolling start as if it's single file. I actually got a slightly better start than Darren, who was alongside me, last night but it wasn't decisive so I eased off to let him have T1 as he was on the inside and I slotted in behind. Nice & safe.

At the risk of agreeing with Shark again , a regulation SRouk start might be a good plan. I propose we try that next race.

Anything we can do to make it safer I'm all for.

[Adam Parle]

At the risk of agreeing with Shark again...

 

I'm happy to try it - especially as Brands has much more chance of T1/2 carnage.

I guess the only difference is that we can't hold the cars on the pit limiter as we used to in GTR, so the procedure can't be exactly the same, but lets give it a try.

[Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer]

I guess the only difference is that we can't hold the cars on the pit limiter as we used to in GTR, so the procedure can't be exactly the same, but lets give it a try.

Can you not use the built-in pace car and use the SRou rule of only going when the car (in the position) ahead goes, instead of when the green light is shown? So pole goes on green, then 2nd, then 3rd, and so on.

[Gazza49er]

Well that was a real shame.    Felt really confident i could get a good result in that race as ive been racing the Mazda's all last season and especially with the really fast guys not here.

Was quite surprised to get pole as John and Dan seemed a bit quicker in practise, i guess they didn't quite hook a good lap in Qualy. Was a bit nervous for the rolling start but i think i did it ok and got a decent gap on Dan but as i was turning in i got hit on the left rear from a spinning car and that was it   must of broke something as the car was undrivable so had to exit out.

I dont think standing or rolling start would of made much difference as people just need to be more sensible, 3 abreast in to T1 on lap 1 is gunna lead to trouble. I took T1 a little slower than normal as i didn't want to bin it and with cold tyres but i guess when people get a good start and get a sniff of getting past someone its hard to resist  

Grats to podium.

[Adam Parle]

Can you not use the built-in pace car and use the SRou rule of only going when the car (in the position) ahead goes, instead of when the green light is shown? So pole goes on green, then 2nd, then 3rd, and so on.

I guess that could work - and the field might not get quite so strung out then, as well as having the problem of an inconsistent pace lap removed.

[Simon Gymer]

BTW, are the incident reports going to be "automated" from the results or should we be entering them as normal?

[ross.mcw]

I'm afraid I haven't yet automated the parsing of iRacing's incident chart data but will do my best to produce them manually to assist with picking out incidents that need reporting until I can provide a tool to do this automatically.

Even if I automate the parsing of the data though, it won't generate the required incident reports - it's more of a helper for the mods.

Cheers, Ross.

[Darren Seal]

There is nothing wrong with the start procedure we used in last nights race.  Trying to change it is not going to fix the problem, just mask it. 

The problem is the overly aggressive attitude of certain drivers!!!  Trying to go into T1 at Sebring 3-wide is asking for trouble on any lap, especially on lap one when everyone is running on racing fuel and cold tyres.  Also, people need to realise that the position of the cars around us is not fact just an approximation. Until we ALL realise this and allow the cars around us more room we will always have these problems...

I vote to keep the double file starting procedure we used last night...

[Paul Thurston]

Sorry I didn't make it guys.  We had an issue at work and I didn;t get home till gone 8:30.

I'll be there for Brands.

Paul

[Simon Gymer]

I do agree with you Darren, but things like altering the start procedure to space people out will mean that drivers have less opportunity to be that way because they are more spaced apart. But yes I do agree with you that it's not the cars being brittle at fault or the start procedure, it IS the drivers and once the racing is underway, we still have to rely on the drivers to not drive so close if they're not capable, or give more room to allow for differences in braking points and so on. You almost want to say no overtaking until T2 or maybe even Lap 2 if it continues like this though.