UKGTR Season 12 Lower Endurance (GTC/GT3) - Brno - May 9

[nsfast]

He took advantage and executed a brilliant overtake though the chicane before the uphill section at the end of the lap.

That move was more luck than judgement...but I'lll take the credit

The most enjoyable race of the season so far. Great racing with five of us having a very similar pace. I started ok but was quickly under threat from API and Jose. API finally went past on lap 7 and then at the next corner I was caught out by Jose passing on the inside and had a small spin. I rejoined behind the chasing pack of gsi bob and Peter in 5th place but was struggling to keep up. Gsi bob started to move away and I ended up pitting on the same lap behind Jose and Peter. I rejoined behind Jose with Peter 8 sec ahead 

With nothing to lose, I started to drive much more aggressively and the gap started to close up again. Some great final laps with Peter trying to overtake. I was quicker in the corners he was pulling away in the straights. Until finally I had a bit of luck. 

Congrats to the podums. Supersonic Racing junior team are still in with a chance of that GT3 title!

[Mike Miller]

I bet Mike was having a laugh there as we were slowing eachother down.

I wasn't laughing but instead wondering what my happen if you guys sorted that battle out. I should have been pulling away with you guys dicing like that, but I didn't. The only time my eyes opened wide was when you tried to pass SBG on the outside of the last turn. That would have been cool if it worked.

Fantastic pace TrueTom. I don't remember you this spicy in the P&G cars. Maybe you're a razor's edge kind of guy.

[Truetom]

Maybe you're a razor's edge kind of guy.

Erm, what? Can it be cured?

[Berger R - 74]

i am very happy with the win yesterday.
i think i did my best race since long time yesterday, it was so hard against miller which was always so constant fast and in end of each stint faster then me and it was hard too against SBG in 2nd stint (as long he had enough fuel).
i did drive the viper totaly on limit, this car is so much dump in corners, but so GREAT in straights , but brno have not much long straights.
the comeback from miller was great, i am sure in one of the next races he do make win.

i did enjoy the race yesterday, no mistake and i did drive constant and fast, only tyres in end of stint did make a little problems for me.(tyres are not good in yiper)
it was till perhaps 2 laps before end of race, open (not sure)  who can win the race? me, miller, sbg (or truetom, only in 1st stint)

congrats to all driver, hope everyone had same fun then me yesterday.

servus

[Mark J]

So come on spill the beans front guys, how the heck did you all gain +20 seconds in the pitstops? I couldnt fathom out H@l especially, as he was behind me on track and pitted before me, yet when i came out from mine he was 25 seconds up the road    I didnt make any errors in my stop, used manual starter etc, only 25mins fuel (which turned out to be 24mins  ) and new boots all round and it was a very short pit entry. Did you front group not change tyres? Thats what i thought H@L must have done as assume he cant have fueled to end of race  and yet although i took 10 secs out of him in last session of race, im fairly sure it would have been more if he was on same worn tyres for full race.

Its very painful when you've fought someone closely for 40minutes on track to lose out 20+ secs in the stops  and also makes the 2nd half of the race boring as your nearest competitors have gained such an advantage.

Elementary anyway as i ran out of fuel because i changed strategy and brought my stop forward 5mins...hence i corner too short on fuel  :'(

[Prof]

Having studied pit stop times to 'even out' the Potrero UE race, I have analysed approximate pit times for some of the GTC racers last night.
Berger R – 74  Viper  62s
Mike Miller Porsche 997  60s
Truetom  BMWZ4  75s
H@L9000 TVR  60s
Prof BMWZ4  77s
Spanner Porsche 997 81s
Mark Jonzo Porsche 997  73s
SbG 911GT3  56s
Interesting that the two Z4 drivers were nearly the same yet the Porsche 997 drivers were very different. Assuming that slowing down in the pits and leaving on the limiter are nearly the same (1-2 seconds perhaps) the other factors can only be.
1. Number of tyres (I assume most people changed all 4 here)
2. Fuel (Poor Z4 suffers here)
3. Damage (Spanner yesterday?)
Assuming there was no damage in most cases it seems that fuel requirement is the controlling factor....

[Truetom]

Good stuff, Prof!
I changed 4 tyres and added 70 litres of fuel (started on full 90 litres). Which was just enough, I had some 4 litres left in the end.

[Prof]

Good stuff, Prof!
I changed 4 tyres and added 70 litres of fuel (started on full 90 litres). Which was just enough, I had some 4 litres left in the end.

Ditto TT started on 90 and topped up to 70. Hard front, soft rears. Do you use manual engine off or let the game do it? I didn't feel I wasted much time looking at the request board.

[spanner]

Lol yeah i had about 6 secs of damage plus i dont follow the norm I dont start on full race fuel so filled up with 50L plus the tyres. Probably could have dropped it by 10L based on the finish tho'.

[phspok]

Thanks TT, I tried the Vertigo, and was more than a second quicker, a few tenths quicker in Nissan, and was even a couple of tenths quicker inthe 911 (shudder) which was very understeery with default setup, not what i exepcted.
I think Mr Viper is to be sold this week at auction.

[Truetom]

Good stuff, Prof!
I changed 4 tyres and added 70 litres of fuel (started on full 90 litres). Which was just enough, I had some 4 litres left in the end.

Ditto TT started on 90 and topped up to 70. Hard front, soft rears. Do you use manual engine off or let the game do it? I didn't feel I wasted much time looking at the request board.

You mean the fuel calc? I do it myself during driving and that means two things: my pace drops and I usually have too much or not enough fuel.

Edit: Vert is a very forgiving car and can do wonders. I like it.

[nsfast]

My first impressions are that the Vertigo is a fine car but like the viper it is not consistently competitive on all tracks.

Engine wear also seems very high with the Vertigo.  

[Mike Miller]

I can't stress enough how important pit strategy is in these races. I'm not sure what the level of expertise is here, but I'll share what I know. Hopefully I'm not giving away too many secrets.
1. map a button for ignition and starter
2. do the pit sequence manually. this is especially helpful if taking tires because you can turn on the ignition and then start the car while the tires are going on.
3. reduce your time in pits as much as possible by starting with a full tank and adding enough fuel to get to the end. GTR2 is funny in that the number shown for the fuel is not what you will be adding, but instead, what the total amount is after the stop. Simply calculate what you will need to complete the race and set the fuel amount. I wish there was a way to make it a set amount to add, but I haven't figured out a way to do this.
4. enter the pit lane with as much speed as possible before getting on the binders and hitting the limiter button (i need a bit of work on this because I'm used to P&G where there are no speed limits)

I fully expected to gain more time to Berger on the stop. I expected the Viper to take on more fuel considering it has a big thirsty engine compared to the 3.6L flat 6 in the GT3. Isn't the viper engine like a 6.0L V10? I was a bit too conservative on the fuel with 1.7 gallons left in the tank in the end. The GT3 was using .7 gallons per lap so I probably left around a second on the table in the pit lane. Usually, that won't make much of a difference, but last Sun, it could have led to a victory because I would have got out in front of Berger. I'd like to test the fuel usage on all cars one of these days. Having a varying degree of fuel usage for the cars is part of what makes the results so interesting and the strategy challenging.

[Mark J]

i just watched the replay to see whats happening at the pit stops but it doesnt show fuel or tyres going in unfortunately. Mike, Berger and H@L were all only stationary for about 37 seconds, i was stationary for 51 !  But i dont get how if we all took fuel and tyres for last stint, which makes me think they took fuel only. 
Prof and H@L even stopped at the same time and yet H@L still pulled out of his pitbox a good 10 seconds quicker than Prof.
I think the Legends pit crew are just a bunch of slack jockeys playing cards and boozing in the garage 

[Mark J]

I can't stress enough how important pit strategy is in these races. I'm not sure what the level of expertise is here, but I'll share what I know. Hopefully I'm not giving away too many secrets.
1. map a button for ignition and starter
2. do the pit sequence manually. this is especially helpful if taking tires because you can turn on the ignition and then start the car while the tires are going on.
3. reduce your time in pits as much as possible by starting with a full tank and adding enough fuel to get to the end. GTR2 is funny in that the number shown for the fuel is not what you will be adding, but instead, what the total amount is after the stop. Simply calculate what you will need to complete the race and set the fuel amount. I wish there was a way to make it a set amount to add, but I haven't figured out a way to do this.
4. enter the pit lane with as much speed as possible before getting on the binders and hitting the limiter button (i need a bit of work on this because I'm used to P&G where there are no speed limits)

I fully expected to gain more time to Berger on the stop. I expected the Viper to take on more fuel considering it has a big thirsty engine compared to the 3.6L flat 6 in the GT3. Isn't the viper engine like a 6.0L V10? I was a bit too conservative on the fuel with 1.7 gallons left in the tank in the end. The GT3 was using .7 gallons per lap so I probably left around a second on the table in the pit lane. Usually, that won't make much of a difference, but last Sun, it could have led to a victory because I would have got out in front of Berger. I'd like to test the fuel usage on all cars one of these days. Having a varying degree of fuel usage for the cars is part of what makes the results so interesting and the strategy challenging.

i didnt know that first bit highlighted !!  I always lose a few secs as the car will never engage first gear for some reason after a stop. It takes about 5-8 pulls of the right shift paddle to get it to engage, perhaps as engine as only just fired up?

and second bit i highlighted...you have to remember these cars have all been DG'd !! so all sorts of tampering with fuel levels etc has gone on, something i disagree with but there you go, thems the rules.