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October 04, 2010, 08:44:31 PM +0100 - Hockenheim (1965-2001) - UKGTL Season 10 Great German Touring Challenge
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Navin R Johnson
 TEAM-GTLDK
BMW Group-5 E21 320i (#11) GTC-TC-76 2 +0.767
104.320mph
1 59:56.247
101.279mph
24 2:25.778
104.104mph
Goodyear  
Sqter
 TEAM-GTLDK
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 3 +0.997
104.155mph
2 +5.521
101.124mph
24 2:26.945
103.277mph
Avon  
Pelle_B
 TEAM-GTLDK
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#89) GTC-TC-76 1 2:24.709
104.873mph
3 +18.737
100.754mph
24 2:25.320
104.432mph
Avon  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW Group-5 E21 320i (#302) GTC-TC-76 4 +1.691
103.662mph
4 +19.014
100.747mph
24 2:27.058
103.198mph
Goodyear  
Phil Gilliland
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#205272) GTC-TC-76 5 +3.396
102.468mph
5 +1:31.822
98.758mph
24 2:29.200
101.716mph
Avon  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#201319) GTC-TC-76 6 +4.209
101.909mph
6 +1:56.937
98.090mph
24 2:29.342
101.620mph
Goodyear  
De Martini
 TEAM-GTLDK
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#82) GTC-TC-76 7 +4.492
101.716mph
7 +1L
96.478mph
23 2:28.377
102.281mph
Goodyear  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#83) GTC-TC-76 12 +8.133
99.293mph
8 +24.229
95.836mph
23 2:32.098
99.778mph
Goodyear  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW Group-5 E21 320i (#55) GTC-TC-76 10 +6.729
100.213mph
9 +2L
89.326mph
22 2:32.732
99.364mph
Goodyear  
Tonny Jacobsen
 TEAM-GTLDK
Porsche 911 RSR 3.0 (#205509) GTC-TC-76 8 +5.034
101.347mph
10 +5L 19 2:28.588
102.135mph
unknown
Goodyear  
HarleyRoadking
 TEAM-GTLDK
Ford Capri 3100 RS (#201303) GTC-TC-76 13 +12.667
96.432mph
11 +12L 12 2:33.081
99.138mph
unknown
Avon  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW Group-5 E21 320i (#302) GTC-TC-76 9 +5.176
101.251mph
12 +13L 11 2:30.264
100.996mph
unknown
Goodyear  
Helle
 TEAM-GTLDK
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#870) GTC-TC-76 11 +6.915
100.090mph
13 +22L 2 2:49.581
89.492mph
unknown
Dunlop  
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« on: May 03, 2010, 05:11:08 PM +0100 »

In case you have been away from GTL, there have been GTL lobby problems. But.... it's all fixed now!

This is what you do to connect to the server:

1) Download & run this HOSTS HACK
2) Start GTL & select to the lobby
3) Register a new lobby account (I suggest the same name but with a blank email & password)
4) Log in with your new account & you should see a list of servers

euro

If this fix has not worked for you, then please check out this thread for more info/questions: http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=6869.msg119486#msg119486

But most importantly, do not suffer in silence (also, don't leave it till the Monday night Wink).
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All members welcome.

Grid/server capacity: 28

Practice: ~19:20 (60 mins)
Qualifying: 20:20 (20 mins)
Race: 20:40 (24 laps = ~60mins)

Track: Hockenheimring 1999 Download this
Cars allowed: BMW 320i Download this, BMW CSL, Ford Capri RS 3100, Ford Escort RS 2000, Porsche 911 RSR, Porsche 914-6. This race will be run using the UKGTL Skin Pack 1.8.0.0 and the Season 10 Skin Pack which will need to be installed prior to racing.

Time of Day Setting: 14:00
Start: STANDING
Tyre wear: 2x
Fuel consumption: 2x

Server: UKGTL GGTC
Password: see above

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(1) It's best if all drivers can make sure they are connected before the Qualifying session as drivers on track during qualifying will not see cars that join after they are on track until they go back to the garage.
(2) Please make sure you are fully aware of the SimRacing.org.uk Rules.
(3) Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
(4) The AI control should be turned off so that you have control of the car at all times, including pitting. Your player file should therefore read
Autopit="0"
Force Autopit Off="1" // Forces autopit always off
No AI Control="1" // AI never has control over car

If you still finding pitting problematic, experience tells us that its less to do with positioning and more to do with approach speed. A slow approach to pit crew chief has proved most reliable.

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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2010, 10:46:37 PM +0100 »

If you intend to race please download both skinpacks and install the BMW 320i even if you don't intend to drive it.
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2010, 10:52:19 AM +0100 »

A great track, but when I recently raced here in GTR2 it was a cutfest. Can we be assured that replays will be studied by moderators and offenders sent out into the forest to be eaten by the goblins  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2010, 11:40:54 AM +0100 »

A great track, but when I recently raced here in GTR2 it was a cutfest. Can we be assured that replays will be studied by moderators and offenders sent out into the forest to be eaten by the goblins  Smiley

http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=7931.msg140600#msg140600
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2010, 10:30:28 PM +0100 »

Hmm. I  have always thought that a gentlemans agreement on putting wheels over kerbs is unworkable
If the real racers do it, then we should. If there are known cut warnings then we need to find them and drive
accordingly. If they are fair, as in more than 2 wheels up a kerb than is ok, the problem is when they are silly
like when you go off onto the grass on the outside and get a cut track!
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2010, 01:10:00 AM +0100 »

This series is close to the DTM & running over curbs without DQ many times. Hockenheim 1999 invites to put 2 wheels over Curb  Grin
Try to see how many turns on this course, after Curb comes a small track with room for a wheel  angel

The only place on this course where I can look really cheating, is in the first chikane, first to the right and left can be cheated  Huh
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2010, 05:02:58 AM +0100 »

Hmm. I  have always thought that a gentlemans agreement on putting wheels over kerbs is unworkable
If the real racers do it, then we should. If there are known cut warnings then we need to find them and drive
accordingly. If they are fair, as in more than 2 wheels up a kerb than is ok, the problem is when they are silly
like when you go off onto the grass on the outside and get a cut track!


Couldn't of said it better myself Wink
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« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2010, 12:23:37 PM +0100 »

I think I'm more concerned about the chicane being missed altogether. IIRC some of the chicanes have a coned off tarmac area that was once part of the circuit before the chicane was introduced. If these areas are used then I will be investigating. However, I believe some of the chicanes have "additional" areas of tarmac which I believe may be used as they form "the track". The use of these additional areas of tarmac are in my view legitimate. I hope this helps?

If, after the race, you feel you witnessed a driver taking "liberties" please file a report and we will investigate on your behalf.
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2010, 12:54:41 PM +0100 »

Hockenheim 1999 invites to put 2 wheels over Curb  Grin

2 wheels over the curb is in my book a perfectly legitimate and normal line through chicanes. More than 2 wheels over the curb is cutting and should be dealt with if it is persistent imho.

I've not tested this particular track for this yet, just that the GTR2 conversion I recently raced on in another league was a joke with some drivers cutting all chicanes and corners persistently. I don't believe this will be an issue with our members.
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2010, 05:21:05 PM +0100 »

In my opinion it is a difficult decision & maybe I can avoid driving over the Curb, but it can go wrong without it is purposely & I have pressed the brakes too late  :'(
Not everyone has the same workout on this track. If you are mummer 10, run over Curb because you lack training...or is it cheating & must be punished  Undecided

In order that there be a doubt - dear judge - I get no training  angel
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2010, 10:22:16 PM +0100 »

Replay posted and race results are above, however due to technical difficulties we are unable to update the league table.

Hopefully we should have it fixed soon.
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2010, 11:30:28 PM +0100 »

Took the 32o as I was 2 secs a lap quicker in it than the Capri or CSL in pre prac, and it seemed easy to drive
In qual was a nightmare, I must have been pushing harder, but seemd to be braking at the same places, yet
I only managed one qual lap. IN the race spun every 3rd lap in the 1st chicane, and lost it a few times elsewhere, got a cut
track going off to  avoid someone, two more as I spun off. was struggling to get into corners, 1st the fronts would lock
then the back would spin, got bored with the masochism when I got a stop go having fallen off yet again.
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2010, 12:17:06 PM +0100 »

League table now updated.

Fairly uneventful race. Chose the Porsche RSR for a change even though I knew it would get spanked by the Beemers and Capri's. And so it was. Also received a spanking from the other RSR's as well which just reinforces my theory that it can't just be driving ability that is holding me back but something on my PC.
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2010, 06:15:11 PM +0100 »

The challenge for me was ensuring that the 320 would go 13 laps on the first stint and not the 12.7 laps that my xd was showing during testing  Shocked

I was lucky that I could tag onto the back of Sqter for the first few laps, meaning I could short shift but still run ok pace. Closed right up to him before my pitstop, but somehow he managed make 7 secs gap by the time he'd emerged from his pitstop. I made a couple of mistakes trying to push back and was left with dull last quarter of the race. Pelle was in 3rd about 12 secs ahead but he lost it on the final bend. I probably could have kept my pace and barged my way through as he recovered in front of me, but elected not to risk the wrath of the stewards.

Winning this championship is looking very tough for me now with the combined forces of the GTLDK league against me. Could do with the help of a couple of aliens to take points off Navin, failing that a bit of divine intervention Grin  angel
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2010, 03:47:30 AM +0100 »

Was a fun race all the way through. Had good pace early and was able to hang on to the super fast Pelle by keeping in his draft. Then made a couple of small mistakes which put me far enough back I lost Pelle's draft so I just kept falling back about 3/4 of a second per lap. I pitted after lap 12 and screwed up getting to the pit stall.. Had to back up 2 times and thought I was gonna lose 2nd place.. I decided not to take tires hoping that would help me not loose a spot. Little did I realize that it would vault me to 1st place after Pelle and Sqter made there stops. Sqter was only 5 seconds back after his stop and we see sawed that gap back and forth the rest of the race. At one point Sqter was just 3.5 seconds back and I was really worried that if he got close enough and started feeling some of my draft I'd be in big trouble with that Capri's big top end. I was just able to muster enough speed with the slightly worn tires to hold one for 1st Cheesy It was great to see Sqter in 2nd  and Pelle in 3rd because if I have any chance at catching Goldtop I will need help like that. Grin And that's literally true.. If we finish the same way for the last 2 race's I will have 245 points and Goldtop will be at 242. I really don't think it will happen but it will be fun to try. And don't throw any bone's my way by holding back fellas.. No Ferrari BS in our leagues Wink.. I must say ...At one point in the race when Pelle was leading I was tempted to say "I get to be Alonzo today, Pelle you Massa Tongue"..
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