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  • L10RDs Mexico 67: October 11, 2010
October 11, 2010, 08:43:28 PM +0100 - Mexico City (1962-1979) - UKGTL Season 10 Readers Drives
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 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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pribeiro
 Prodigy Racing
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#205795) GTC-TC-76 1 1:55.417
97.194mph
1 50:55.467
95.456mph
26 1:55.785
96.885mph
Dunlop  
Sqter
 TEAM-GTLDK
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#870) GTC-TC-76 4 +1.944
95.584mph
2 +51.350
93.879mph
26 1:57.550
95.430mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#201327) GTC-TC-76 3 +1.528
95.924mph
3 +51.945
93.861mph
26 1:57.378
95.570mph
Dunlop  
Navin R Johnson
 TEAM-GTLDK
BMW CSL Alpina (#87) GTC-TC-76 7 +2.923
94.793mph
4 +1:16.271
93.132mph
26 1:58.640
94.554mph
Dunlop  
Pelle_B
 TEAM-GTLDK
BMW CSL Alpina (#87) GTC-TC-76 2 +1.228
96.171mph
5 (+1) +1:20.992
92.991mph
26 1:57.671
95.332mph
Dunlop  
goldtop
 Kerb Crawlers
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#201327) GTC-TC-76 5 +2.395
95.218mph
6 +1:24.719
92.881mph
26 1:58.475
94.685mph
Dunlop  
Phil Gilliland
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#870) GTC-TC-76 9 +3.668
94.200mph
7 +1L
91.703mph
25 2:00.862
92.815mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
BMW CSL Alpina (#201411) GTC-TC-76 14 +6.106
92.310mph
8 +19.164
91.131mph
25 2:00.079
93.420mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#870) GTC-TC-76 8 +3.334
94.465mph
9 +34.456
90.681mph
25 2:00.818
92.849mph
Dunlop  
Syd Drake
 Drake Racing
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#870) GTC-TC-76 13 +5.200
93.004mph
10 +1:03.704
89.831mph
25 2:01.534
92.302mph
Dunlop  
De Martini
 TEAM-GTLDK
BMW CSL Alpina (#87) GTC-TC-76 6 +2.844
94.857mph
11 +2L
87.997mph
24 1:59.518
93.859mph
Dunlop  
Tonny Jacobsen
 TEAM-GTLDK
BMW CSL Alpina (#87) GTC-TC-76 10 +4.257
93.737mph
12 24 2:00.290
93.257mph
unknown
Dunlop  
biker
 TEAM-GTLDK
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#870) GTC-TC-76 11 +4.369
93.649mph
13 +18L 8 2:01.064
92.660mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
BMW CSL Schnitzer (#870) GTC-TC-76 15 +7.674
91.134mph
14 +20L 6 2:02.028
91.928mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Hotkeys
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
BMW CSL Alpina (#200134) GTC-TC-76 12 +5.023
93.140mph
15 +22L 4 2:01.247
92.520mph
unknown
Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Server replay time: 126s

PB takes a tighter line into a LH corner but taps GT's rear causing GT to spin towards the left. PB again strikes GT's car and seems to correct GT's trajectory? Cannot say if this 2nd hit was deliberate and meant with malice or a helpfull tap to correct the first impact. PB does not use GT's miss-fortune as a chance to pass however.
PB was at fault for the initial impact so I'll issue a warning to avoid rash attempts to pass drivers.


Server replay time: 187s

GT passes PB on the start/finish straight by use of draft. However once GT has passed PB he pulls in, in front of PB just clipping PB's offside front. There are no visible consequences of this touch.
Almost immediantly, (possibly GT was trying to reduce speed before the LH turn?) PB strikes a glancing hit on GT's offside rear causing GT to lose control and strike the LH barrier. It looks like a hard impact. PB does not slow to allow GT to re-pass although he has the opportunity to do so in the following RH turn and before the sharp LH turn.
As this is the 2nd incident involving PB as the perpertrator of an incident I have no choice but to penalize PB.

  • Pelle_B (Pelle Buchner)penalty — Penalty for 2nd incident involving impact with another vehicle — 1 place lost


No incident occured at timestamp 1543 therefore no judgement required.


Server replay time: 2624s

GT takes a slow RH turn hugging the apex of the turn. PB has better speed into the turn as he follows GT but tries to pass where there is no track tarmac and taps the offside rear of GT's car. No obvious consequence of this action but the momentary loss of control caused to GT momentum allows PB to pass. Again the chance is there for PB to give the place back but this does not happen. It may be that PB was not aware that contact had occured and that he thought that he had passed due to his quicker approach speed.
As this is not a clear incident to judge we will leave this as a racing incident and warn PB to be watchfull of his conduct when trying passing moves on other drivers.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GT Legends
GTC-TC-76
1:55.417
97.194mph
pribeiro
Qualifying
BMW CSL SchnitzerOctober 11, 2010, 08:43:28 PM +0100
L10RDs
GT Legends
GTC-TC-76
1:55.785
96.885mph
pribeiro
Race
BMW CSL SchnitzerOctober 11, 2010, 08:43:28 PM +0100
L10RDs
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2010, 06:23:17 PM +0100 »


Thanks GT, I'm not sure if I will be able to do all this in time to race tho...but I'll try.
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2010, 06:29:27 PM +0100 »

Hmm, I'm not so sure that's the fix Paulo needs. I'm sure he's raced GTL since that fix happened. But I do recall Syd Drake and I think Hotkeys having a similar problem after Altbeirthing re-booted their server or somesuch. I think that was early September?
I'll have a look.

EDIT: Found this

Syd/Hotkeys, so sorry that you guys missed the race. I believe this problem is only affecting some people and it's due to Altbeirbude changing their server or something. Some folk don't have to do anything and they join, others have to use a fix. I'll have a look at GTLDK for a fix, please watch this space.

EDIT: Make a backup of your existing files then try this

The Altbierbuden-Lobby has switched to a new server.
So you have to change your LOCAL_IP_LOBBY.txt in your main GTL folder.
remove the line

gtl-lobby.bierbuden.de 

replace with

91.121.7.48 

restart the game, you should then arrive at the correct lobby
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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2010, 06:34:04 PM +0100 »

Yep... I had the same problem. The funny thing is, that I never changed anything !

the names of the tracks, which are shown, are not the names of the tracks which are running on the servers.
you have not these tracks, so the game replace their names with some you have installed on your game.

you have to find out which tracks are running and install these.

But that does not explain, why we were not able to join the game monday night, since we both had the right track installed !

The mystery remains unsolved  Huh

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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2010, 06:48:25 PM +0100 »

Thanks Tony,
and you are right, I did a Mini race with you 2 weeks ago without doing anything.
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2010, 08:59:24 PM +0100 »

PC freezed on me after just 4 or 5 laps, I have no idea why  scared

T´was as nice race for as long as it lasted; I started from the rear and got up to 9th pl. or so.

Nice track, awfulll car ... how on earth could you guys go as low as 1.55.xx ?

CU

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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2010, 09:42:14 PM +0100 »

Like I said, really nice match up of car/track, just a shame I hardly had anyone to race with the whole race.

Was catching TJ(?) for the last quarter of race by over 1.5 secs per lap, but once I caught him I bumped him when I think he was being held up in the hair pin by PR lapping us Undecided & I realised I couldn't just take the corner as i had every other lap. Sorry about that Embarrassed

Think we'd have had a great last couple of laps, but as I was following TJ(?) closely through the T2 chicane you just stopped dead & I walloped you from behind. What happened, did you catch a tyre? Undecided They caught me out loads in practice Roll Eyes

Congrats to podiums & see y'all next time. Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2010, 10:00:19 PM +0100 »

Replay and Results now posted
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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2010, 10:29:38 PM +0100 »

It looks like Paulo fixed it very well. Wink
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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2010, 10:52:39 PM +0100 »

Not a pleasant race. Impatient and aggressive driving with plenty of contact and corner cutting from one particular driver thumbdown. Report submitted.

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« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2010, 11:02:12 PM +0100 »

I wonder If Paulo's seen this yet  Cheesy

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=29557
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« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2010, 12:04:56 AM +0100 »

Not a pleasant race. Impatient and aggressive driving with plenty of contact and corner cutting from one particular driver thumbdown. Report submitted.



I had a great race battling with you GT Wink. And I thought that Tony was pretty clear about corner cutting being OK for this race. There are a lot of area's where you would get a sng if you did it too much so the track would be the marshal for this one.. Like Jarama79 it has those big sections of track on either side that are too easy to run on and it would be a nightmare to judge tracks like that... As far as aggressive driving... that's a whole other matter  Sad.
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« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2010, 12:13:57 AM +0100 »

Not a pleasant race. Impatient and aggressive driving with plenty of contact and corner cutting from one particular driver thumbdown. Report submitted.
This was definitely not your race...a little sad to give others the blame for it  Roll Eyes

Practice:
I hate this car  Grin

Qual:
WoW - Starts in second place...it was a surprise  Cheesy

Race:
Terrible start, my gearbox is completely wrong...all pass  Shocked My setup is rather perfect in the turns where I can win placements back...this really gives a fun & close race.  thumbup1
Unfortunately it was lost again on the straights, where people drove past without any problem & I could do nothing.
New record, 4xDane on server, but none on podium  Huh
...& something new, no gold for Team GTLDK, but an impressive second place for Sqter, big Grats.
Grats to Paulo - fantastic race & to Ade  thumbup2
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« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2010, 08:42:56 AM +0100 »

Fun race. Lost a couple of places getting out of Tony's way with his kamikaze blast up the inside
at the 1st corner  Shocked Made a pass into the chicane after the hairpin and got tapped into a spin
and over the bank we went, go to the back Mr Rowe, caught the field back up and lost it myself
avoiding ramming, then spent the last half of the race with a most excellent dual with
Di Martini, his Alpina was much quicker in the 1st and last corners, my schnizer had the legs
down the straight, two abreast round the last corner several times without contact, great stuff  Cool
Watched PR after he lapped me, and his pace was unreal, wayyyy more traction out of corners
and at least as fast in. ALien speed Paulo.  Grin
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« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2010, 08:47:39 AM +0100 »

No problems at all with your driving at all Navin; fair and patient unlike Pelle who has now chosen to identify himself, but try to put the blame on me for this. The Scnitzer was awful in the corners, while the Alpinas were all over me. The difference is Pelle resorted to cutting and forcing his way through while Navin found his way through. The replay says it all.
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« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2010, 09:26:49 AM +0100 »

I wonder If Paulo's seen this yet  Cheesy

http://www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=29557

I saw it, downloaded it and tested it for 5 laps after last night's race. Very nice mod.
I must say that the Nissan KGC110 GT-X , Ford Capri Perana V8, Ford Cortina MKI Perana, Fiat 850 Coupé, Ferrari 365 GTB, Opel Commodore GS and Ford Escort RS1600 are quite good aswell.  Wink

A good race last night, didn't have time to practice, so I went for this one with a stiff setup (as usual  Roll Eyes), a good balance in rear suspension allowed me to exit corners quite well. Finished race with front left tire at 49 wear.  Shocked And I messed with the fuel, I had fuel in tank for another race when I finished... Grin
I love this track since GPL old days. Well, in fact I love all GPL track layouts and now there are plenty of them, Reims anyone?  Wink

Congrats to all finishers.

Cheers

P.S. I have done the change to LOBBY.txt with the IP number on the other two GTL installations without success, I still see several servers all with Mondello and Hockenheim tracks. I don't wanna hear about Mondello and Hocks for a few years now please.  Grin


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