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May 16, 2010, 11:17:26 PM +0100 - Porto - UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Clutch4
 Mountside Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 6 +4.566
114.874mph
1 19:25.280
114.087mph
8 2:24.513
114.992mph
Dunlop  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 3 +2.653
116.413mph
2 +9.200
113.193mph
8 2:21.470
117.466mph
Dunlop  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 2 +1.146
117.655mph
3 +14.159
112.717mph
8 2:22.662
116.484mph
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 5 +3.574
115.667mph
4 +24.250
111.761mph
8 2:24.146
115.285mph
Dunlop  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 9 +5.373
114.237mph
5 +31.342
111.099mph
8 2:24.687
114.854mph
Dunlop  
b_1_rd
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 8 +5.369
114.240mph
6 +32.011
111.037mph
8 2:23.336
115.937mph
Dunlop  
maddog
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 11 +7.803
112.360mph
7 (+2) +51.010
109.302mph
8 2:25.529
114.190mph
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 14 +20.531
103.456mph
8 +1:35.409
105.453mph
8 2:30.158
110.669mph
Dunlop  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 10 +7.089
112.905mph
9 (+3) +1:36.764
105.340mph
8 2:26.655
113.313mph
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 12 +8.836
111.580mph
10 +1:46.169
104.560mph
8 2:29.385
111.242mph
Dunlop  
G Poole
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 13 +13.111
108.467mph
11 +2:17.188
102.070mph
8 2:34.263
107.724mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 1 2:20.096
118.618mph
12 +1L
112.961mph
7 2:21.658
117.310mph
Disco
Dunlop  
natan5
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 4 +3.521
115.710mph
13 +6L
111.391mph
2 2:29.475
111.175mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Turkey Machine
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 7 +4.602
114.845mph
14 +8L
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Disco
Dunlop  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 15 17 DNS ---
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Moderators report as follows. First time we have had penalised incidents in the Spec series. Not trying to dampen the fun spirit but this is a proper championship.


Server replay time: 0h08m09s

Maddog runs into the rear of Phil Thornton going into the last turn.


Server replay time: 0h09m00s

NHnace rejoining track the race after taking a SnG. He loses momentum and is hit by Billy.

May 16, 2010, 11:17:45 PM +0100 - Porto - UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Spec Challenge
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 2 +0.887
117.693mph
1 19:07.424
115.826mph
8 2:21.141
117.703mph
Dunlop  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 1 2:20.266
118.437mph
2 +18.652
113.974mph
8 2:20.954
117.859mph
Dunlop  
maddog
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 11 +11.157
109.711mph
3 +23.886
113.464mph
8 2:22.887
116.265mph
Dunlop  
b_1_rd
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 4 +3.525
115.534mph
4 +26.042
113.256mph
8 2:24.214
115.195mph
Dunlop  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 7 +4.076
115.093mph
5 +51.516
110.850mph
8 2:24.113
115.276mph
Dunlop  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 5 +3.607
115.468mph
6 +1:17.839
108.468mph
8 2:23.899
115.447mph
Dunlop  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 6 +3.814
115.302mph
7 +1:26.456
107.711mph
8 2:23.446
115.812mph
Dunlop  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 9 +10.273
110.355mph
8 +1:35.258
106.948mph
8 2:28.872
111.591mph
Dunlop  
Clutch4
 Mountside Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 8 +6.847
112.925mph
9 +1:53.127
105.432mph
8 2:27.292
112.788mph
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 12 +13.758
107.858mph
10 +2:03.234
104.593mph
8 2:30.201
110.603mph
Dunlop  
Turkey Machine
 HikiWazaRacing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 14 +25.238
100.377mph
11 +1L
103.598mph
7 2:28.719
111.706mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 10 +10.338
110.307mph
12 +28.422
101.040mph
7 2:34.542
107.497mph
Disco
Dunlop  
G Poole
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 13 +20.410
103.393mph
13 +3L
94.949mph
5 2:40.826
103.296mph
Disco
Dunlop  
natan5
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 3 +3.073
115.898mph
14 +6L
112.115mph
2 2:25.452
114.215mph
Disco
Dunlop  
NickyIckx
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 16 15 +34.245
100.502mph
2 2:34.933
107.225mph
Disco
Dunlop  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
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« on: May 11, 2010, 10:47:06 PM +0100 »

Season 19 Spec Race Challenge - Round 4 - Porto

Round 4 of the Spec Race Challenge takes us to City of Porto, or as it was in 1958. This may be a new track for UKGPL but should be offer opportunities for drafting with 2 long high speed straights.

After three rounds, Hristo dominates the Lights with 6 wins from 6 and Steve Bird leads the way in the Heavies. Tim Muttram & Phil Thornton still push for second place. Other podiums at Silverstone for Evil, Al Hellar & Maddog.

We will run two races on the same track. Two chassis are available, you must use one in each race. Use the same car twice earns you a disqualification in the second race.
Your choice of chariot for this occasion is the 1965 Mod ~ Lotus versus the Ferrari.
 
The Spec Series is a full championship with standard points scoring. In addition the moderator will also tally up every drivers fastest race lap & compare the chassis head to head. For your time to count in the “Spec Challenge” you must complete more than 50% distance in both races. Resets are allowed so don’t retire because of a bad start.
Also the Spec Series in the only GPL championship to be decided exclusively by driver skill, no handicapping applies.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2 *
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 16-05-2010
Time = 21:00 UK time (21:00 GMT)
Track = Porto 58
Variant = 65 F1
Chassis –Lotus & Ferrari only
Damage Model = Intermediate
Qualifying time = 20 minutes [Server will start at 23 mins]
Race length = Intermediate Short
[* Second server kindly provided by Nicky Ickx]

Password: see above

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
The track can be downloaded here (#27) http://gpltd.bcsims.com/?dis=P&menu=Show_Letters


Unlimited Shift-R is allowed in the race. No-fault Shift-Rs will not attract a Stop & Go penalty.  All other Shift-Rs must be followed by a Stop & Go.

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time = GMT).

Due to the number of races moderating will be light touch - reported incidents only, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident with a particular emphasis on lap one. The aim is to review the race the following weekend so incident reports should be submitted within five days of the race (i.e. the following Friday). We're hopeful most incidents can be resolved amicably. A sorry in the forum won't be taken as an automatic admission of guilt by the moderators.

The Championship is split into two sub-divisions, the Light Brigade & the Heavy Brigade. The driver allocation is set out below.

LIGHT BRIGADE drivers
Burtoner
Evil Clive   
John Roberts   
Tim FMG   
Hristo       
Jethro   
Nicky Ickx   
Bartosz (Pod)   
King Hiro   
Clutch   
Al Hellar   
Ruud Savelkoul   
Sam B     
Fulvio P     
Natan
   
   
   

HEAVY BRIGADE drivers
Bernie       
Billy   
Bookie   
Maestro   
Norbert       
D Rock   
Fabio / Il Lupo   
N Hance   
Phil T   
Nigel Smith   
Gilles27   
Steve Bird   
Graham P   
Maddog   
Vosblod 
   
   
   
   
   
   


NOTE: In the event of more then 19 entrants a second grid for the Light Brigade will be run by Nicky. Please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count. If you can try to make sure you are in the chatroom by 8.50pm this will enable a decision without any delays to the start time.

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2010, 04:10:46 PM +0100 »

T7_2 Server up for praccy/testing for tonight's race.
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2010, 10:47:45 AM +0100 »

Probably one of my messiest races. Had at least 5 collisions with other cars and 5 resets ~ & that’s without looking at the replay.  Had one tangle with Norm as he was rejoining from a SnG (think that was a 50/50) & I rear ended a Lotus in race 1, lap 1 going into the 2nd hairpin turn. Apologies for that, I was on the brakes extra early but didn’t allow quite enough.  One big feature of this track is the heavy braking at the end of long straights so the difference in drivers brake points contributing to several crashes &/or visits to the hay bales.
Also learnt a new trick – the ancient Portguese art of sticking two wheels on the hay bales. Ignoring  my woeful performance I did enjoy driving this track.

If anyone feels particularly aggrieved please submit a report in the usual way. Only reported incidents will be moderated.

Finally,  congratulations to the guys clocking 2.20 lap times – very impressive. Also, with Hristo taking the night & Steve Bird settling for 2nd place we have some new winners in both divisions.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2010, 11:31:29 AM +0100 »

Thought this a fantastic track with potential for some good close racing but found I was miles off the pac

On the best part of the track , the fast sweeping turns , I was being left for dead  Undecided  My best effort at a decent set up was useless there , thanks to Phil and Evil for offer of help in race 2 but for some reason the setups you uploaded to me wouldnt run so reverted to the default fezzer set up at the last minute .

Didn't stop me enjoying the track and some close racing for a while at least  Smiley

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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2010, 11:44:10 AM +0100 »

 Grats to Thom ( King Hiro) in race 1 and to Clutch for being consistant and taking his chance in race 2 whilst I destroyed Tim's chance of a win ( sorry mate).

I enjoyed this circuit and seemed to have sussed the "fast" line around it, clocking a 2:20 lap in both chassis during qually and on race fuel.
I was determined ( perhaps in hindsight a little too determined!! Undecided ) to break the  the 2:20 barrier through the race as the fuel levels dropped, but instead I messed up both outings.

No complaints as I thoroughly enjoyed the races.
Firstly with Thom ( King Hiro) in race 1 where I built a comfortable cushion after about 4 laps and was thinking about going for the sub 2:20 lap in the Fezza when I had a dose of lag /screen stutter just as I entered the final corner ( you know the one with all the lamp posts and straw bales!!). As a result, I suddenly found myself giving one of those bales much closer examination than I had intended which lost me my lead and definitely deranged something in the steering/suspension department. Thom obviously scented the chance of a victory and was putting on some pressure but I though I could just about hold him behind despite the damage...until we came upon a back marker at the beginning of the long slalom section. The unfortunate guy put a wheel on the outer kerb and barreled across the circuit exactly where I thought I was going to sweep past  Shocked. After that the steering was screwed and Thom easily pulled away for the win.

2nd race was looking better in the faster Lotus, until I made a mess of a corner and clouted the suspension ( again)!! Also, remind me never to give Tim a fast setup again that he can use against me!!!
Although we were lapping in the 2:22's and I knew I could do easy 2:20's with a clear track, I just could not get far enough away from the irritating sod to settle into a fast rythmn. The slipstream along that straight meant that a lead of 2 secs or more evaporated every time I tried to get away.  Undecided
Then I rear ended Tim in the slalom section, where I was quicker and Clutch took his chance to slip through to an eventual victory. After letting Tim regain his place in front of me and renewing our chase I buggered up a bend and played pinball between the walls until I collected Thom.. and then I gave up and quit!! rather than reset again.
I will have to study the replays to learn Tim's secret shortcut through the lamp posts and bales on that final corner!! just when I thought he had lost it and crashed, he re-appeared along the outside of the track travelling at warp factor 8!!!! and threatening a pass into T1...like I said   "very irritating" Shocked lol
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2010, 11:52:17 AM +0100 »

Bernie's comment about not being able to see the setup is interesting, because I actually have experience a similar prob on my own computer.

I create a setup off-line ( and save it in the normal GPL manner) and then start GEM and join an on-line race through IGOR. Only to find that the setup is just not there!!

However, if I join IGOR directly without going through GEM, the setups appear and are usuable??? Which would appear to be the same prob that Bernie experienced.....anyone got any ideas???
 GPL is saving the setups to the same folder because I can navigate to the setups folder and see them? and that is surely where GPL/IGOR looks for the setups???
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2010, 12:21:44 PM +0100 »

Evil,
Re. lost set ups. I think Graham had similar problems at Goodwood – maybe he can answer.
I have a similar issue but I think it crops up where I am starting the server. When you access the race through GEM it defaults to my 67 driver profile, hence it won’t pick up the 65 set ups. Failing that, there’s always the good old fashioned solution – scribble down your set up on a piece of paper.
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2010, 01:14:32 PM +0100 »

Learnt the track on Sunday Morning and got an Ok set up for both cars.

The track is a real grower once you get the hang of it, but those hay bails will bite anyone pushing too hard.

Race 1 was very poor from me, not only in terms of pace, but race craft. Made a good start, but ran slightly wide in turn 1 and the car got stuck half in, half out of the hay bails. I thought i'd stay put as i wasn't too much of an obstruction, but someone hit me a couple of seconds later, spun, and i cringed as i watched the ensuing pile up. The rest of my race was very poor. The Ferrari is always tail happy and unpredictable on the brakes. I nudged billy into a spin at one point as i backed out of a move, but waited to let him back past. Just poor all round really.

Race 2. Got up into 3rd and kept my eye on Pribluda as i saw Tim and Evil dicing. I could just about hold the gap at 5 to 6 seconds but couldn't close it. Decided to drive with one hand, and cross my fingers with the other. Eventually, their loss was my gain and i manged to sneak through after they had a coming together. The gap thereafter was about 8 seconds, and i knew that if they kept dicing they'd not catch me, though i knew that they both had the raw pace to do so.

A good track that has now entered my GPL All time Top 10.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2010, 01:42:07 PM +0100 »

won race one.very happy.was a bit defensive vs natan before the bends on l1 but hope it wasn t too much.and..thx to that backmarker stopping Evil Smiley


Race was an exciting start with evil and tim up front and natan and me close behind. the fun ended as I got rearended and ended last.managed to work myself up to 3 rd because of Tim/evil clash ( and other clashes up through the field)
). Most irritating mistake I did on L7 or something when I swithched on prib(usually off) to verify it was tim who had a spin in a 90 degrees bend and now was just in front of me..I managed to go wide and loose 3-4 secs while fiddling to turn it off again. There went my chance to get contact with Tim...well..very happy with 3 rd after all.
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2010, 02:23:04 PM +0100 »

Bernie's comment about not being able to see the setup is interesting, because I actually have experience a similar prob on my own computer.

I create a setup off-line ( and save it in the normal GPL manner) and then start GEM and join an on-line race through IGOR. Only to find that the setup is just not there!!

However, if I join IGOR directly without going through GEM, the setups appear and are usuable??? Which would appear to be the same prob that Bernie experienced.....anyone got any ideas???
 GPL is saving the setups to the same folder because I can navigate to the setups folder and see them? and that is surely where GPL/IGOR looks for the setups???

Not quite the same , its really weird  Shocked

In the GPL car setup screen I can "see" the set ups in the drop down menu, both your 65fez1 and Phil's  S19-Sc-R4-race

When I click on either one of these the set up box goes to the gpl "default" set up  Undecided

Very strange , looked at "properties " in explorer and the syntax is correct , so would think all should be OK but it aint  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2010, 02:46:12 PM +0100 »

Apologies Billy when you ran into me I was S&G rejoining but was trying to restart in 2nd gear accidentally as I went into panic mode trying to find 1st I rolled almost to a halt in the middle of the track. Take this as an incident report & penalise me as you wish. My fault very sorry.
Like the track but the number of crashes in qually & the races  set a pattern of lots of mistakes. Actually headed Steve I think at one point so got all determined to hold him off but that only lasted 3 corners before it was back to the straw. To cap it all I had a nice few seconds lead on Bernie in race 2 when I went wide on the last bend of the last lap, got all messed up & shot into the opposite wall & let Bernie through. A bad end to one I want to forget.
Good track but unforgiving. Finally well done Clutch considering you learnt it Sunday morning whilst I had been practising for at least a week it must show something.

Norm H   
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2010, 06:48:24 PM +0100 »

If anyone feels particularly aggrieved please submit a report in the usual way. Only reported incidents will be moderated.
You don't actually have to be aggrieved to submit an incident report taz.  In fact I'd prefer it if everyone did by default, it is fairer that way but I appreciate that it makes more work for the moderators.  All I would ask is that you submit the incident report for the right race and make sure the replay time is in there (format 00h00m00s), that way the moderators can find the incident quickly.  All drivers should be aware of the penalty guidelines the moderators use.  If everyone adhered to the recommended driver behaviour there would be far less incidents and we'd all be happier. 

But until then don't feel as if you need to be really annoyed about something before you submit an incident report.  I would rather we sort things out amicably (using the formal impartial moderating process) before things escalate into an argument.  The purpose of the incident reporting is to facilitate learning not to get your own back.
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2010, 06:58:22 PM +0100 »

Was fun until disco in both races .
Hope it was general prob and not only mine !
King Hiro that was pure race fight thx for the fun !
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2010, 10:25:21 PM +0100 »

Hi folks!

As the dust and straw bales settled, on race 1 at Porto, I found myself with a podium and a PB!  This aberration has me working on a theory that, if you bounce off the scenery enough times in practice, your car can gain an immunity by race time.  In fact, my best race result to date, wasn't purely accidental - this track simply seems to reward with time. I realised, that while the place appears to be mostly narrow, that's only because of its speed,  There are some highly top secret lines to be discovered, I tell you!  Just don't tell anyone else!  I reckon half the field could sub-2.20, with enough practice, so I racked up the miles at the weekend, and was well rewarded.  Many thanks to some stout service from our servers.  Thanks lads! Wink

While race 1 consisted of a brief stop at turn 1, and fast forward to the finish, race 2 was slightly more ponderous.  Looked promising until the final corner of lap three.  Came across Phil and Al, duking side by side, and honed in on Phil's tailpipes at the apex.  Only the GPL gods decided to reap their revenge!  I had dared defy the laws of Noviceness in race 1 - a slight tap and we were both spat across the track, with myself out of contention.  And I was already shopping for a larger helmet!  Apologies offered Phil - and dread fear of your explosive tailpipes!  A stop & go, and lonely race thereafter.

A tough track for newcomers.  For those at UKGPL who've been on-line longer, but not yet found a maniacal turn of speed - I was racing offline, long before I ever materialized here.  I'll be putting up a few of my past exploits against the Ai in the weeks to come, in case it's of interest.  A new thread soon.
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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2010, 10:34:40 AM +0100 »

I liked this track though frustratingly never really got to grips with it. Was surprised by the frontrunners pace (almost WR - cut it out you lot!) & realised my only chance of a decent result would be some clean consistent running. Promptly ignored my own advice, spun several times & finally got stuck in the haybale at T1. Reset & SnG put me way back & a final contretemps and major misunderstanding with Tim made it even worse. Took it a bit easier in race 2. Was enjoying a splendid battle with Phil until he unfortunately got bitten on the behind by a crazed canine Wink  Found myself up to 4th & then caught that sodding haybale at T1 again. Reset - SnG - aaargh. Still, was pleased to see Clutch & my teammate Tom (KH) grab the wins - WD Smiley
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