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  • S19A Mosport: June 15, 2010
June 16, 2010, 11:55:34 AM +0100 - Mosport - UKGPL Season 19 (2010) Amateurs Trophy (65)
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:24.991
104.176mph
1 48:56.107
102.529mph
34 1:25.506
103.548mph
Dunlop  
natan5
 
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 2 +0.351
103.747mph
2 +18.798
101.877mph
34 1:25.660
103.362mph
Dunlop  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +0.433
103.648mph
3 +22.039
101.765mph
34 1:25.262
103.845mph
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +1.476
102.398mph
4 (+2) +24.958
101.665mph
34 1:25.487
103.571mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +0.772
103.238mph
5 +26.028
101.628mph
34 1:25.737
103.269mph
Dunlop  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +1.006
102.957mph
6 +52.149
100.740mph
34 1:26.108
102.825mph
Dunlop  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 10 +1.057
102.896mph
7 +56.459
100.595mph
34 1:26.368
102.515mph
Dunlop  
b_1_rd
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 13 +2.273
101.462mph
8 +59.170
100.504mph
34 1:26.259
102.645mph
Dunlop  
Clutch4
 Mountside Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 14 +2.336
101.389mph
9 +8L
98.397mph
26 1:27.200
101.537mph
Disco
Dunlop  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 15 +3.119
100.488mph
10 +9L
95.709mph
25 1:28.308
100.263mph
accident
Dunlop  
Baab
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +0.489
103.580mph
11 +14L
95.582mph
20 1:25.941
103.024mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Turkey Machine
 HikiWazaRacing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +0.544
103.513mph
12 (+2) +23L
100.623mph
11 1:26.379
102.502mph
Disco
Dunlop  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P261 (1965) F1 1965 6 +0.626
103.414mph
13 +20.317
98.554mph
11 1:26.535
102.317mph
Disco
Dunlop  
NickyIckx
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +0.866
103.125mph
14 +33L
90.396mph
1 1:34.870
93.328mph
unknown
Goodyear  
Podkrecony_Ziutek
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 11 +1.083
102.865mph
15 (+2) +5.363
85.703mph
1 1:39.922
88.609mph
accident
Dunlop  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 16 16 DNS ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

SUMMARY
An action packed race with Hristo doing just enough to claim another hard fought victory in the BT7. He was pushed very hard by runner-up Natan and third placed finisher Goran.

There was a report of a driver starting practice before the 30 minutes to go deadline. There was no evidence of this on the server replay but drivers are reminded not to start practice before the 30 minutes to go deadline.

Despite the vast number of yellow cards he has accrued, Jethro has not learnt from his mistakes and still lacks the race craft necessary to race on-line without risking contact with other drivers. This number of yellow cards warrants more than a routine race ban and consequently the ban is extended to all UKGPL league races for the remainder of Season 19.


Server replay time: 0h01m15s

Lap 1 – Turn 2B - Tim Muttram and Nicky Ickx

Tim puts a wheel on the grass on the exit of turn 2B. He looses the rear and manages to avoid a spin but he can’t stay on the tarmac and consequently takes to the grass on the approach to turn 3. He then tries to rejoin on the outside of Turn 3 as the tail-end of the pack are barrelling through. Warp contact is made with Nicky and Tim is punted back onto the grass.

Tim tried to join gradually but there was always going to be a problem trying to rejoin so close to the racing line with a gaggle of drivers approaching. There has to be a little give and take in situations like this. The pack should anticipate that the car was going to rejoin and allowed some leeway. Equally, Tim should have waited until he was absolutely certain it was safe to join. In this case it would have meant driving a little further along the grass until the racing line was well away from the edge of the track or waiting until all the pack had passed.

In the event warp intervened before any genuine contact was made and only Tim was disadvantaged.

Warp incident.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h02m02s

Lap 1 – Turn 8 - Podkrecony Ziutek and Nicky Ickx

Podkrecony gets a better exit out of Moss and pulls along side Nicky on the approach to the jump. Nicky keeps the inside line but Podkrecony is clearly ahead as they enter turn 8. Nicky has yielded and does not try to contest the corner but the cars are quite close and warp contact is made sending Podkrecony off the circuit.

Although clearly ahead, Podkrecony could not see Nicky in his mirrors at turn-in so he couldn’t be sure where Nicky was. Podkrecony was entitled to take the racing line but it was a risky tactic, the car on the outside is always vulnerable to warp. It would have been better to stay slightly wider until he could clearly see Nicky in his mirrors.

Warp incident.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h02m29s

Lap 1– Turn 1 - Fulvio Policardi and Nicky Ickx

Fulvio is challenging King Hiro for position but gets out of shape under braking for turn 1 and ends up taking to the grass on the inside. He manages to maintain control but slows considerably before trying to rejoin on the apex of the corner just as Nicky is driving past. Contact is made and Nicky pushed off the track loosing several places in the process.

Rejoining on the apex of a corner is clearly asking for trouble. Fulvio should have stayed on the grass until the exit of the corner when the racing line would have been on the other side of the track.


Server replay time: 0h03m15s

Lap 2 – Moss - Podkrecony_Ziutek and Nicky Ickx

Podkrecony simply gets too close to Nicky on the entry to Moss and rear ends him.

This incident was exacerbated by warp but there was clear contact on the server. Without the warp intervention Nicky would have been nudged into a spin at worst but the GPL collision engine saw fit to obliterate both cars. Podkrecony was at fault but the incident was far more severe than his actions dictated. However this cannot exonerate Podkrecony and consequently a penalty must be applied.


Server replay time: 0h06m04s

Lap 4 – Moss - Jethro Walters and Al Heller

Jethro is managing to keep up with Al, but the performance of his Cooper doesn’t allow him to mount a realistic challenge for the place. He needs to be patient and wait for a mistake from Al. As they approach Moss, Al takes a wide line but it is not a mistake and he doesn’t loose any momentum. Jethro takes a tight line which appears to present him with an opportunity to outbrake Al into Moss. However this is an illusion, Al clearly has the lead at turn in and there is no way Jethro can claim the corner. Contact is inevitable and Al is punted into a spin.

This isn’t a passing place unless there is a vast difference in abilities between the drivers (there clearly wasn’t here as their pace was well matched) or the leading driver makes a serious mistake and takes to the grass.

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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2010, 02:15:56 PM +0100 »

Was VERY hard to drive at 100% for the hour and a bit of practice/race. I only hope it improves my concentration in the long run - at least I understand how Hristo crashes often even while leading now!

Welcome to my world!  Grin

Yeah, the BT7 takes a lot of effort if you want to keep up competitive for the whole race and that drains the life out of you. I had to lie down after yesterday's race as it was non-stop flat out in every single lap.

I was really happy with my Qualifying lap, but opted for a safer setup for the race, raising the suspension a couple of clicks to avoid bottoming out on full tanks down towards Moss. As it turned out, it was a good decision, though it made the car to understeer more and thus go slower.

I was relieved to see Natan bog down at the start because we always seem to have accidents whenever we race each other, so after a couple of laps and Jethro doing his usual thing, I had a comfortable lead in front.

To take Moss as fast as possible I had to keep sliding the car around a lot on the entry and exiting with opposite lock, so eventually that backfired and I spun when I had an 8 seconds lead on Goran. Thanks to that I still managed to continue JUST ahead of him, but it was very intense in the next 10 or so laps.

Goran was obviously very fast and the slipstream given from my car made him even faster, especially on the backstraight. I could gain some tenths here and there, but he would recover that in the last sector and put pressure on me. Each little mistake I did edged him closer and closer, so it was extremely important to get good exits out of Moss.

I could see he was easing off in places and probably timing his attack for the end of the race, but the off he had decided it in my favour. I still kept pushing just in case I have another problem and this allowed me to extend the lead over Natan and take the win.

Very good racing with Goran, but unfortunately (for him anyway  Grin) it didn't unfold to the end. Maybe next time.  Wink

ALL MY VICTORIES ARE BELONG TO HER!!!  angel
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2010, 02:38:17 PM +0100 »

Disappointing to read that people are moving over to let Jethro pass rather than have him follow them.

I know why they would do that but it is not a good situation to have in a League............
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2010, 06:44:12 PM +0100 »

ok , this time I submitted incident reports . 5 to be exactly . luckily my race wasnt longer then 1,5 laps .
otherwise it propably could have been a half days work to write all incident reports .
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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2010, 08:26:54 PM +0100 »

I had a reasonable quali but then was caught short and missed the start, nice!  Started from pit lane which I think put me a lapdown on prib.

I was doing okay climbing steadily until I saw a car rejoining with flagrant disregard for anyone approaching (turned out to be Turkey) whilst Tim and I were ending lap 12.  Turkey, you say you had a quick look at prib, was that to make sure 2 drivers were approaching and drive straight onto the racing line? I saw Tim got past but I was pushed wide off the racing line.  I seemed to have warp or lag...whatever, on my screen you dissappeared, but you were actually there, reappearing on the grass as we spun across it.  You shouldn't have even been there though.

I carried on but couldn't go as quick, in the end my monitor turned off and I stacked it, quality end!!!

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« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2010, 10:36:03 PM +0100 »

its a fact that often Prib tells lies so not a good way to judge the proximity or thereabouts of approaching cars

Mk1 eyeball is best

Also listen out for approaching engine noise plus squeeling tyres (Hristo) tortured cams (Evil)

If you here a noise like splintering wood or falling trees , that'll be Jethro approaching  Grin
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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2010, 02:00:12 PM +0100 »

I am just writing to say that I shall not be taking part in the next few races.

Unfortunately I just dont have the time to learn the new tracks and be competitive. Also the races are too long, especially in the summer.

GLA  Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2010, 10:00:17 PM +0100 »

come on folks , I knew you can do it better , like Nürburgring smash me out in front of T1/opening lap
(that was real amteurs work ) ..this time at Mosport final kick out was at lap 2/34. unconcentrate work.
(up to 4 attempt , thats rookie stuff )


I am so sick off it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sry Nicky for not have apologized before, I was out of town for work. I think I have apologized to the wrong person in chat after the race, then I saw my replay and found that my bad rejoining move affected you and not Clutch. I'm very sorry if your race ended cause me.
Ciao
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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2010, 12:35:23 PM +0100 »

Mod report published
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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2010, 10:48:28 AM +0100 »

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Sry Nicky for not have apologized before, I was out of town for work. I think I have apologized to the wrong person in chat after the race, then I saw my replay and found that my bad rejoining move affected you and not Clutch. I'm very sorry if your race ended cause me.
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Smiley np Fulvio , wasnt you ended my race .but thanks for apologizes .

 Sad it was Podkcrecony Ziutek  at L2 /Moss simply heavily crashed  into the rear of my BT11,
sent my car wide and make it explode….
btw. I am missing a mod report at least on that one……..
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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2010, 10:21:49 PM +0100 »

missing a mod report at least on that one……..
Oops yes I forgot to upload that one.  Corrected now but it didn't change the results, Pod was last anyway.
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