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August 10, 2010, 06:00:00 PM +0100 - Phillip Island - iRacing Season 4 Radical - @iRacing.com
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Led Best Retirement
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Paul Richards
 Legends Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 1 1:25.460
116.352mph
1 59:34.626
114.049mph
41 40 1:25.790
115.905mph
Dunlop  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 3 +0.285
115.965mph
2 +11.025
113.698mph
41   1:26.257
115.277mph
Dunlop  
Mike Wrightson
 Team Shark
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 5 +0.524
115.643mph
3 +12.774
113.643mph
41 1 1:26.166
115.399mph
Dunlop 1
Darren Seal
 Legends Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 2 +0.038
116.300mph
4 +28.339
113.152mph
41   1:25.702
116.024mph
Dunlop 4
Paul Thurston
 Epicurie Banana
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 8 +0.937
115.090mph
5 +59.514
112.181mph
41   1:26.689
114.703mph
Dunlop 2
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 13 +1.451
114.410mph
6 +1:01.174
112.130mph
41   1:26.736
114.640mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 15 +1.844
113.895mph
7 +1:14.265
111.728mph
41   1:26.891
114.436mph
Dunlop 2
ross.mcw
 Prodigy Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 9 +1.050
114.940mph
8 +1:21.793
111.498mph
41   1:26.563
114.870mph
Dunlop 10
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 12 +1.271
114.647mph
9 +1L 40   1:26.604
114.815mph
Dunlop 7
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Radical SR8 (#1) {unknown} 11 +1.175
114.774mph
10 40   1:26.837
114.507mph
Dunlop 8
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 14 +1.489
114.360mph
11 40   1:27.261
113.951mph
Dunlop 7
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 17 +2.454
113.104mph
12 +2L 39   1:27.936
113.076mph
Dunlop 23
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 19 +3.745
111.467mph
13 39   1:29.148
111.539mph
Dunlop 11
fozzmeister
 The Crafty Butchers
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 16 +2.420
113.148mph
14 +5L 36   1:27.739
113.330mph
Disco
Dunlop 7
Burtoner
 Team Shark
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 18 +2.558
112.971mph
15 +21L 20   1:28.169
112.777mph
Dunlop 9
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 7 +0.930
115.100mph
16 +23L 18   1:26.935
114.378mph
Disco
Dunlop 12
Bernie Lomax
 Legends Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 6 +0.777
115.304mph
17 +31L 10   1:26.841
114.502mph
Disco
Dunlop 6
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 10 +1.138
114.823mph
18 +33L 8   1:28.406
112.475mph
Disco
Dunlop 7
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 4 +0.489
115.690mph
19 +36L 5   1:26.337
115.170mph
Disco
Dunlop  
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iRacing
{unknown}
1:25.460
116.352mph
Paul Richards
Qualifying
Radical SR8August 10, 2010, 06:00:00 PM +0100
i4r
iRacing
{unknown}
1:25.702
116.024mph
Darren Seal
Race
Radical SR8August 10, 2010, 06:00:00 PM +0100
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« on: August 05, 2010, 12:42:00 PM +0100 »

Car: Radical SR8
Track: Phillip Island

Practice: 18:00 for 150 mins (approx)
Qualifying: 20:30 (15 mins)
Race: 20:45 41 laps (approx 60 mins)

Start: Rolling - standard iRacing double file start
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Pit Stops: You must make a minimum of one pit stop during which you must take on at least 1 litre of fuel and/or change at least two tyres. You cannot take a mandatory stop at the end of the pace lap, or with less than 1 lap to go.

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« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2010, 08:55:28 PM +0100 »

I would say I'm looking forward to this ... but after a tentative couple of laps I'm not so sure!!!

Can anyone give me a rough idea on laptimes for the mid-back of the grid?
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2010, 10:31:32 PM +0100 »

1:29s Adam.

Still struggling with the gear changes on the new cars tbh. I'm not going to attend until I can find some way of shifting gears comfortably.

If anyone can do a video of how to shift in the new build that would be good as I just don't get it at all. Whatever blipping I'm doing it's not working, whatever revs I'm doing it's not working. I've currently resorted to pressing a button for the clutch whilst pressing the gear change button at the same time. Aids on is worse than aids off, which is totally bizarre as I thought the aids were there to help you. Smiley I'm at a complete loss as to how to drive the new cars and it's quite frustrating. Undecided
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2010, 10:50:58 PM +0100 »

It's just about the timing of everything.

In the new build, pull the paddle then blip.  If you blip at the same time as you pull the paddle (like we used to) it won't go.  It helps to hold the paddle for a fraction longer as you blip, just make sure you click the paddle then blip.

So:  off throttle, brake... click-blip...click-blip.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2010, 12:13:53 AM +0100 »

This is all getting a bit confusing for me, will stick with aids on & being even slower. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2010, 09:32:38 AM +0100 »

Wow, how fast is this combo. Only tried this track when the V8 came out but in the radical its quite fun, if you can second guess the corners! Only did a few exploritory laps last night.
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2010, 09:40:10 AM +0100 »

This is all getting a bit confusing for me, will stick with aids on & being even slower. Roll Eyes
It took me an hour or so of practice at Philip Island to get the hang of the new gearbox.  Because you're flat from the left hander after the the final hairpin to the first left hander  after the kink, if you're using the aids and losing time on upshifts then you'll be toast to any following car who isn't.

26.9 qually fuel here and mid to low 27s on fuel.  The quick boys will be doing 25s, I can see several places where I could go quicker with more talent.
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2010, 07:14:09 PM +0100 »

It's just about the timing of everything.

In the new build, pull the paddle then blip.  If you blip at the same time as you pull the paddle (like we used to) it won't go.  It helps to hold the paddle for a fraction longer as you blip, just make sure you click the paddle then blip.

So:  off throttle, brake... click-blip...click-blip.

That seems to be working better thanks! It's not 100% yet, but it's certainly a darn sight more consistent at shifting down than it was. I'm still concentrating very hard on the shifting and not so much on the throttle, braking and turning, so I'm hoping with practice that reverses itself back to how I normally drive (concentrating on the important things). Mid 1:28 now.

BTW, how much are you blipping? As in how much throttle do you blip with?

P.S. I never blipped before in iRacing. Only time I've ever blipped in games is in GTL when using the H-pattern gearbox and manual clutch, but blipping there is much more natural. I find it very unnatural to use a flappy paddle and have to blip or use a clutch.
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2010, 07:52:17 PM +0100 »

I'll put on about quarter - half throttle.  I don't blip much at all in the Mazda now, but the Radical and V8 need a really positive blip to get the gear in.  You do have to drop the throttle right off between them too.

There is talk in the iRacing forums of the use of macros to achieve downshifting.  I imagine that doing that will make it pretty much like the old model without requiring auto-clutch.
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2010, 08:56:07 PM +0100 »

I'm digging this combo Cool

I was a bit wary of the Radical after reading it was a bit of a nightmare to manually shift but it doesn't seem too bad at all, just as Mike describes, click-blip, click-blip. I'm feeling quite proud I got there all by myself without reading this thread Smiley

That said, I'm pretty slow so far, mid 1:29's with race fuel so far but I reckon I'll get a second off that with a bit more track time.

BTW, I'm not convinced that macro's will help in cars like the Radical where there's no need to use the clutch anyway Huh I'm going to try the macro approach (just for research obviously angel)  I'll let you know how it goes.
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2010, 10:02:23 AM +0100 »

Awesome Mike. Can't believe how much that simple advice has helped me. After some more practice this morning the gear changing is going quite well and it's just starting to become second nature.

1:26.7 in Q trim I'm down to now.

P.S. Got the Force Feedback down at 3 for this car as it's so twitchy.
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2010, 09:39:35 PM +0100 »

I tried creating a macro for downshifting tonight using the logitech profiler.  I might not have done it right, but it didn't work.  Well, it sometimes works, the other times it won't shift at all.  Even when you're parked on the track.  Roll Eyes

So, I've abandoned that idea, can't be bothered to spend lots of time trying to get it to work, when I've got it sussed manually anyway.  You'd be better off just using the aids if you're struggling.
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2010, 11:29:42 PM +0100 »

WOW!!!
I am shocked. I love it. Shocked

Just done an hour & managed to get down to 1:27.1 in race trim.

I've not done the Radical for a season, but it's everything I remember about it. Absolutely fantastic & what a perfect match up with P. Island thumbup1.

Unbelievable, but this 1hr practice is about as much fun as I can remember in iR for a good couple of months. Well chuffed. Cool
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2010, 07:14:18 AM +0100 »

I tried creating a macro for downshifting tonight using the logitech profiler.  I might not have done it right, but it didn't work.  Well, it sometimes works, the other times it won't shift at all.  Even when you're parked on the track.  Roll Eyes

So, I've abandoned that idea, can't be bothered to spend lots of time trying to get it to work, when I've got it sussed manually anyway.  You'd be better off just using the aids if you're struggling.
If you had I'd have been forced to "accidentally" miss a shift and punt you off anyway.  angel

GlovePIE is the weapon of choice for macros if you do want to experiment.  You could set the timing of the blip with surgical accuracy.

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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2010, 08:48:28 AM +0100 »

My logitech profiler clutch macro worked perfectly Pete angel Grin

However, it certainly didn't make me any quicker. The issue with this type of macro (engage clutch -> shift -> re-engage clutch) is that you still need to blip to get it in gear if the revs aren't matched. Maybe with a little more skill/practice this could be a benefit if I could get the revs right but it seems marginal to me at best.

As I understand it, where a driver could get more of a significant advantage is using something like glovePIE (as Paul mentions) to perform the shift AND to match revs too thus getting a milli-second perfect shift every time.

I'm not overly concerned about macros, I think it's a bit of a storm in a teacup tbh. There's no way to stop it though so I'll let peoples consciences decide...  nono
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