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August 10, 2010, 06:00:00 PM +0100 - Phillip Island - iRacing Season 4 Radical - @iRacing.com
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Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Led Best Retirement
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Paul Richards
 Legends Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 1 1:25.460
116.352mph
1 59:34.626
114.049mph
41 40 1:25.790
115.905mph
Dunlop  
Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer
 Team Shark
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 3 +0.285
115.965mph
2 +11.025
113.698mph
41   1:26.257
115.277mph
Dunlop  
Mike Wrightson
 Team Shark
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 5 +0.524
115.643mph
3 +12.774
113.643mph
41 1 1:26.166
115.399mph
Dunlop 1
Darren Seal
 Legends Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 2 +0.038
116.300mph
4 +28.339
113.152mph
41   1:25.702
116.024mph
Dunlop 4
Paul Thurston
 Epicurie Banana
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 8 +0.937
115.090mph
5 +59.514
112.181mph
41   1:26.689
114.703mph
Dunlop 2
Blunder
 Team Oldie Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 13 +1.451
114.410mph
6 +1:01.174
112.130mph
41   1:26.736
114.640mph
Dunlop  
picnic
 Team Shark
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 15 +1.844
113.895mph
7 +1:14.265
111.728mph
41   1:26.891
114.436mph
Dunlop 2
ross.mcw
 Prodigy Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 9 +1.050
114.940mph
8 +1:21.793
111.498mph
41   1:26.563
114.870mph
Dunlop 10
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 12 +1.271
114.647mph
9 +1L 40   1:26.604
114.815mph
Dunlop 7
Truetom
 Legends Racing
Radical SR8 (#1) {unknown} 11 +1.175
114.774mph
10 40   1:26.837
114.507mph
Dunlop 8
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 14 +1.489
114.360mph
11 40   1:27.261
113.951mph
Dunlop 7
Adam Parle
 Legends Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 17 +2.454
113.104mph
12 +2L 39   1:27.936
113.076mph
Dunlop 23
spanner
 Prodigy Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 19 +3.745
111.467mph
13 39   1:29.148
111.539mph
Dunlop 11
fozzmeister
 The Crafty Butchers
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 16 +2.420
113.148mph
14 +5L 36   1:27.739
113.330mph
Disco
Dunlop 7
Burtoner
 Team Shark
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 18 +2.558
112.971mph
15 +21L 20   1:28.169
112.777mph
Dunlop 9
mr_oily
 Prodigy Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 7 +0.930
115.100mph
16 +23L 18   1:26.935
114.378mph
Disco
Dunlop 12
Bernie Lomax
 Legends Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 6 +0.777
115.304mph
17 +31L 10   1:26.841
114.502mph
Disco
Dunlop 6
popabawa
 Legends Racing
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 10 +1.138
114.823mph
18 +33L 8   1:28.406
112.475mph
Disco
Dunlop 7
Simon Gymer
 Team Shark
Radical SR8 (#36) {unknown} 4 +0.489
115.690mph
19 +36L 5   1:26.337
115.170mph
Disco
Dunlop  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
iRacing
{unknown}
1:25.460
116.352mph
Paul Richards
Qualifying
Radical SR8August 10, 2010, 06:00:00 PM +0100
i4r
iRacing
{unknown}
1:25.702
116.024mph
Darren Seal
Race
Radical SR8August 10, 2010, 06:00:00 PM +0100
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« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2010, 09:56:45 PM +0100 »

One to forget for me.  My pace was getting better, but too many silly offs ruined it.  I've struggled with this combo - to be fair I've flat out struggled with the new build full stop - so to get to the end without hitting anyone/anything was good.

That said, I nearly took Paul out when he came round to lap me!!  See Darren - it's not just you that's in danger from your teammate! Cheesy

Hopefully I'll be a bit more consistent and a bit quicker for the next one.
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« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2010, 10:10:26 PM +0100 »

Now that's what a car should drive like! Well done iR, you finally got there!!! angel

I'm just going to say, "I loved every bit of that" & leave it there.

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p.s. More please.
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« Reply #47 on: August 10, 2010, 10:24:10 PM +0100 »

Got more than I deserved there I think - Darren, Shark and Mike were all quicker but Darren and Shark fell to misfortune and Mike succumbed to my cunning strategy of double stinting the tyres (I think it's pretty well known that the Radical has a very old tyre model which means that wear doesn't really matter until you reach 0% and it goes pop - and temperature balance across the tyre doesn't mean much either).

My frame rates weren't great and every cloud of dust caused it to dip into the 80s and give me little jitters, but fortunately never bad enough to put me off the track. Daytona and Sebring should be a lot better. Smiley

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« Reply #48 on: August 10, 2010, 10:50:47 PM +0100 »

Really enjoyed that, the Radical is so much fun!! Cheesy

I had not run more than 15 laps together, so was unsure of exactly how much fuel to take.  It turned out to need more than I thought, but I added one click too much and had nearly 3 gallons left over at the end.

Stayed in formation with Dave and Shark in the early laps, until Shark disappeared, then closed up to Dave before the stops.  I decided to change tyres and ended up 10 seconds behind Dave!  Did qualifying laps the whole seconds stint to try and pull the gap back.  I was at 2.5s at the end.

Happy with the 3rd place though Smiley
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« Reply #49 on: August 10, 2010, 10:56:50 PM +0100 »

Great combo that!!!

Started the race in second and tried to settle down into a nice rhythm just behind Paul.   However, on a couple of corners Paul had completely different lines to me which caused me to compromise my own.  After one scare at T2 I decided to back off slightly and give us both some space...  It worked!!  We both started to pull away from Dave and after lap 15 the gap was 10 seconds...

I knew Dave is a wizard at pit stops and I had a feeling he would try something like no tyres to try and get in front.  I was worried 10 seconds wasn't enough and tried to push harder.. BIG mistake!!!  Lap 16, T2,  I entered slightly too deep and just put my rear wheel off into the dirt...  5 360s later I stopped in a cloud of dust. Sad

I was so gutted that I had thrown away any chance of a podium that I totally lost my concentration. Embarrassed  For the next 2 laps I was all over the place;  half spinning @ T11 and going off again @ T2..  Those 2 laps (1:41.4 & 1:38.7) cost me 28 seconds which is the eventual gap I finished behind Paul.

I'm not saying I would have won..  I wouldn't have..  Paul 'iceman' Richards was always comfortable out in front.  Even though our pace was similar there was no way I would have passed him...  Great driving  I Am Not Worthy

Luckily my concentration soon returned and I set about chasing down Dave and Mike...  It was an impossible task especially when they both left the pit lane over 24 seconds ahead, but I kept pushing in the hope they would take each other off.  angel

Considering how close I came to quiting on that 2nd disastrous lap, I'm very happy I stuck with it and claim a very respectable 4th; especially considering the quality of the field.

To top it off I also managed to steal the lap record from Paul on my last lap.  Sorry Paul  angel

Congrats to Paul for the win, sorry I ruined what could have been an epic battle.  Also well done to Dave and Mike for 2nd and 3rd..  Well deserved...  Oh and unlucky Simon...

Hope to see you all at Sebring...

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« Reply #50 on: August 11, 2010, 07:09:10 AM +0100 »

Morning all,

How good was that!.... awesome!  Wink

Had no practice until 7pm last night so was always on the back foot!
Got down to a 1.26.7 in practice but strugglked to put in a clean lap in quali but eventually managed a 26.9.
Don't know why I have such a problem in quali.... I practice on race fuel normally and find low fuel slower!... go figure!?  Undecided

Good clean start! Well done Paul, sounds like that was down to you.... bumper to bumper action back in 10th!
I was going well, the more the race went on the quicker I got!  Grin
Basically had some great battles all the way with the likes of Ross, TT and others and was keeping Paul T honest right to the end!
I thought I might have got you Paul but the last 5 laps you had the measure of me!
Fantastic close racing, no let up! Exhausted!  Wink

Well done all!

Thanks Pops! a great combination, sounds like most people loved it!

Looking forward to the next one!

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« Reply #51 on: August 11, 2010, 07:49:56 AM +0100 »

Sometimes I wonder why I do this.  Races like last night remind me.

I'd worked hard for this one.  As soon as the Radical was chosen I started to work out how to drive it.  I've always had trouble with it's habit of swapping directions mid corner and I'd not previously driven at Philip Island.  I developed a setup which suits me and which I can drive all day at 9 tenths, figuring a clean race would bring a good result.

In Monday's practice session I concentrated on doing a full fuel run to figure out a strategy.  I figured a 9.9 first stint coupled with 7 gallons at the stop would safely get me home with a fast pre pitstop period while the 50:50 stoppers were carrrying fuel.  In the pre race practice I concentrated on pitstops.  The only thing I hadn't got round to was a low fuel run and that nearly came back to bite me.

For qually I just took the fuel out which resulted in a car which oversteered massively in the fast stuff.  It took a few laps to get a clear lap and I put in a fairly smooth lap as a banker.  As I was coming to the line I thought "OK, that's a mid 27, I'll have to do better than that".  Then the time came up = 1:26.6, a new PB!  Fair enough, I can go quicker than that.  I eased off for the next lap to get a space and made sure I got a real slingshot out of the final two left handers.  Mark came out of the pits in front of me and I was caught in two minds which side of him to go into the hairpin.  I chose left but missed my braking point.  I braked harder than usual and got round the corner sweet as a nut so filed away that new braking point for later.  1:26.3, half a second faster than my pre session PB.  8th.  Good start.

I apparently lost a place off the start though I'm not entirely sure how.  It didn't matter as people soon started slipping wide and spinning up ahead and I started to pick up places.  After 10 laps or so I was in fifth and had a little pack of cars swapping around behind me but other than the odd challenge at one of the hairpins if I had a bad lap I was comfortable, especially as I felt I was probably carrying more fuel.

Then the gearbox bit me.  Ross was the current leader of the chasing gaggle and he'd got close enough into the final hairpin to be big in my mirrors, though there was no room to get by.  The distraction must have been enough for me to make a mistake and miss first gear.  I finally found it as I was 75% round the corner, put the power down and pirouetted to the inside.  I found reverse, positioned myself to rejoin and waited for the pack to pass.  It could have been worse but suddenly I was reliant on them having less fuel than me.

I was behind Pops Pete and was catching him but not by anything significant.  After a while people started to pit and my position improved.  Soon I was back to 5th.

Coming down the straight I saw Paul and Dave coming out of the pits.  They came out just in front of me and I slotted in behind Dave.  By this time I was up to third, it occurred to me later than without my spin I'd have been in the lead but in the event third was perfect.  Dave's pace helped me put together a string of low 27s and 26s just when I needed them.  At the 2 lap warning I did one more lap and came in.  The pitstop practice paid off and a perfect stop ensued but I came out inches behind Matthew into 6th.  Luckily he stopped at the end of that lap, it hadn't occurred to me that he'd not stopped which put me back to fifth.

The rest of the race was spent concentrating to keep the competition behind me and trying not to feel smug.  Initially that was Ross who was 2-3 seconds back.  He started to catch me a little but I managed to maintain a safe gap until Martin got past him.  I wasn't sure of Martin's pace and he seemed to be catching me so I upped my pace to match.  I had to negotiate a couple of lapped cars spinning in front which got the gap to 1.8 seconds which I considered too close for comfort so started using my new deep braking point into the hairpin and concentrating on getting the power down earlier at the key points.  With a lap to go I'd pulled it out to 3 seconds so eased off slightly to avoid stupid mistakes and brought it home in fifth.

Looking at the results I'd not have caught Darren even without the spin.  If I'd not spun and not changed tyres then I might have been pretty close to him but realistically I think that was as good as I could have done.

I do love it when a plan comes together.

Sebring I've not done so much work at.  Better get down to it.

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« Reply #52 on: August 11, 2010, 08:36:05 AM +0100 »

I thought I might have got you Paul but the last 5 laps you had the measure of me!
Yeah, so did I.  Grin

You finished under two seconds behind me and the laps around my pitstop lap were 3.8 seconds quicker than yours.  Talk about marginal.

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« Reply #53 on: August 11, 2010, 09:25:29 AM +0100 »

Lol... that is interesting to read.... my in lap was very slow as I was doing mental arithmetic trying to figure out exactly how much fuel to put in!  Grin
I started with 7.1 which only gave me 18 laps when I was hoping for half distance!
Didn't want to overfill it!
Sounds like I better be more prepared next time  Wink

Great racing though!  Grin
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« Reply #54 on: August 11, 2010, 09:30:47 AM +0100 »

I don't enjoy driving the Radical anywhere near as much as the LM (or V8 last week), there is such a fine fine between staying on or falling off I can't relax and enjoy the experience. In each of the 3 sessions last night my quickest lap was no slower that 0.15 sec off my optimum. Maybe that implies I'm consistently well up to my maximum but with others going 2 secs a lap quicker surely somewhere I can find more time  Undecided

Start was clean and somehow I got a place at the right hand hairpin half way round the circuit on L1. Ade braked and stayed well wide on the racing line so I braked on to the rear bumper of Martin. I couldn't quite match Martin's pace although he seemed to make a few minor mistakes that allowed me to close the gap occasionally. Paul's spin I think distracted Martin and he half spun at the right hander after the steep hill. All I could do was to stop inorder to avoid hitting him. I was then of course in completely the wrong gear and by the time I messed around lost a couple of seconds which I couldn't get back.

I managed to keep the recovering Paul about 2.5-3 secs back until a couple of laps before the pitstop where I caught too much curb going through T1. Luckily I didn't hit anything and carried on, losing 13 secs and the place back to Paul. Somehow I seemed to gain some time in the pitstops. Martin was still up the road but closer and TT had dropped behind. It was then a question of trying to get to the end which I did without further offs.

Without losing those 13 secs in my spin I could have been in the Martin/Paul battle for the 2nd half of the race, instead it was me all on my tod hoping the car would stay on track.
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« Reply #55 on: August 11, 2010, 11:03:12 AM +0100 »

I started with 7.1 which only gave me 18 laps when I was hoping for half distance!

Same here. That tool seems a bit unreliable, 12,7 said 44 laps. Sad Had to pit early and so I couldn't drive as quickly in the second stint - the tyres go off quite soon. I would use harder tyres if this was a proper sim. Lips Sealed  Anyways, lost a lot of places in the second stint. I think my best position was 5th for some laps, then started to backwards. Undecided

Finaly got a stable setup and could do stable, if a bit slower laptimes. Still, this works for hotlapping. When another car comes closer I mostly don't see it 'cause I need to watch the road and there were some moments with a yellow car (Blunder, I guess) where I just saw ... something. And this is not close racing, I was just scared like ... to punt anyone off. Sad Punt? An ugly look is enough. Sad So I rather let people by.

I did enjoy hotlapping in this car, I must say, more than I have before. Mostly 'cause of the stable setup. Darren's was ok, just a bit understeary, so when I fixed it I could go faster. How he got 25s with his setup I can't really fathom. Roll Eyes I experimented with hard rear arb and was 0,5 s quicker, except in the last turn. There the rear stepped out and if I backed down I lost time. Still, a thing or two to think about for the next time. Smiley

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« Reply #56 on: August 11, 2010, 11:35:23 AM +0100 »

And while we all got on with the job of learning the new transmission (or using the aids), the macro complaints thread at iRacing is up to it's 31st page  Cheesy

If they spent the time practicing instead of complaining , they would have worked it out by now!

No macros here, can't be bothered with it, and a few missed shifts in the race as a result, but it's all part of the fun  Grin  it's what makes iRacing so involving.
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« Reply #57 on: August 11, 2010, 11:48:26 AM +0100 »

I would use harder tyres if this was a proper sim. Lips Sealed
Not if the series specified a control tyre you wouldn't, as the majority of them do in real life.
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« Reply #58 on: August 11, 2010, 01:00:06 PM +0100 »

Would make some spicy comments but I'm generaly a polite person. Wink
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« Reply #59 on: August 11, 2010, 01:54:00 PM +0100 »

Had great fun with this last night - really excellent combo and mastering (kind of) the new gearbox model is very satisfying.  We should all have a gentleman's agreement NOT to use any macro helpers!

Very pleased to qualify as high as I did managing finally to get a mid 26.  Had a decent first lap and was settled in behind a bunch (Paul/Pops/TT?).  After a couple went off I was left chasing Paul but was struggling to see where I could get past.  Eventually he had a slow entry into the right hander at the bottom of the hill leaving me a slot to try and get past on the inside.  Unfortunately, Paul closed the gap and our contact caused me to stop while he span in front.  Anyhow, no harm done and I got back under way in front of the gaggle I'd been chasing so I was happy enough with that.

Somehow ended up in 5th I think but then had to pit earlier than I'd hoped due to assuming incorrectly that 7.1 would get me past 20 laps.  Ended up adding too much fuel and after a tyre change came out just behind Legzy and Rob (I think) with Ade and James behind me.

Once the pit stops had sorted themselves about, I was chasing Paul again with Martin and Peter behind me but my concentration by this point was going and a couple of tyres on the dirt meant I let them both past leaving me to finish somewhere near the back of the finishers.

All in all, it was really great, but I should really have done better than I did.  Very enjoyable.
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