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  • S20 Pre seasonWatkins Glen: September 28, 2010
September 28, 2010, 10:51:10 PM +0100 - Watkins Classic (1948-52) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 1 3:21.984
117.650mph
1 35:04.700
112.906mph
10 3:22.754
117.203mph
Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 2 +7.965
113.186mph
2 +46.096
110.486mph
10 3:27.974
114.261mph
Goodyear  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 33 (BRM) F1 1966 3 +11.154
111.493mph
3 +1:24.951
108.526mph
10 3:33.061
111.533mph
Firestone  
G Jonsson
 Black Night Racing
Lotus 33 (BRM) F1 1966 5 +13.778
110.137mph
4 +1:55.154
107.049mph
10 3:31.432
112.393mph
Firestone  
Phil Thornton
 Antipasti Racing
Lotus 33 (BRM) F1 1966 8 +31.621
101.725mph
5 +2:33.880
105.214mph
10 3:35.293
110.377mph
Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 7 +20.355
106.879mph
6 +2:35.664
105.131mph
10 3:33.071
111.528mph
Firestone  
maddog
 
Ferrari 246 F1 1966 4 +11.984
111.060mph
7 +3:00.086
104.007mph
10 3:36.077
109.976mph
Firestone  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Brabham BT11 (BRM V8) F1 1966 6 +18.416
107.819mph
8 +1L
98.263mph
9 3:39.091
108.463mph
Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966) F1 1966 11 +1:01.487
90.194mph
9 +1:23.091
94.650mph
9 3:52.316
102.289mph
Firestone  
Turkey Machine
 HikiWazaRacing
BRM P261 (1966) F1 1966 10 +48.181
94.991mph
10 +10L
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Disco
Goodyear  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax 2.5) F1 1966 9 +37.574
99.197mph
11
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Disco
Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
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Firestone  
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F1 1966
3:21.984
117.650mph
Hristo Itchov
Qualifying
Lotus 33 (Climax 1966)September 28, 2010, 10:51:10 PM +0100
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Grand Prix Legends
F1 1966
3:22.754
117.203mph
Hristo Itchov
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Lotus 33 (Climax 1966)September 28, 2010, 10:51:10 PM +0100
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« on: September 24, 2010, 09:33:55 PM +0100 »

I like to welcome all to my pre season test race. It`s a double test, first to see if I, with massive support by FMG and others, can make this work and also to see if the track, Watkins Glen 1948(v2.0) is good for online racing.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 28-09-2010
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Watkins Glen 1948 (v2.0) track dir glen1948 http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=2732
Variant = 66F1
Damage Model = INT
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 10 laps
Chassis = Free choice 66 2L

Password: Will be announced, need to have a password to see if I can handel it.


The Track:

American road racing was revived at Watkins Glen, NY on October 2, 1948, the first road race run since before World War II. The 6.6 mile circuit ran through the village streets, starting and ending in front of the Schuyler County Court House. To close the public roads for the event, it was necessary to have permits from six governmental entities; the state, county, village, Town of Reading, Town of Dix and the New York State Parks Commission.

It was also necessary to have a permit from the New York Central Railroad to stop the trains during the race, as the course crossed the tracks. The circuit was used for races from 1948 through 1952. Unchanged, it may be toured today as public roads. For those who were here in the early days, it is a sentimental journey. For those who have never been here, it is a lesson in motor racing history.

If you want to see the track from the cockpit you can watch this,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml8YlnB4GkI

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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2010, 11:29:49 AM +0100 »

I've raced this long ago in some sort of a league vs. league event, can't remember who was involved in it though and who organized it. There weren't any problems such as freezes as far as I can remember, but the track proved to be mostly about surviving than normal racing.
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2010, 12:43:47 PM +0100 »

I was only thinking this morning a 66 warm up would be great, should be able to make it.

Survival sounds good to me  Wink
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2010, 07:36:41 PM +0100 »

You lot have fun, this is a balls-deep track!
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2010, 10:50:30 PM +0100 »

 :'(

My boss has put on some beers and a chillie tomorrow night and I've been invited to attend so will have to miss out on this one.  hope it goes well.
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2010, 01:15:35 PM +0100 »

I've decided I may actually come along to this one. I like WG48 too much not to, TBH! Grin
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2010, 04:58:18 PM +0100 »

Didn't think too much of this track , although it does look very pretty and got to compliment those responsible for the creation ,  in reality its 2 long flat out straight bits connected together by a silly twisty bit which has the manhole covers removed for good effect .

Just my point of view anyway , of coarse others may think differently but I dont see how it can be a good track for a Pro race , possibly because my own efforts at driving it were pathetic, although I did set a new PB for shift R's  .

Is it just me who gets eye stagma watching all those trees wizz past , reminded me a bit of the old playstation game when you had to guide the spaceship thingy down the high speed tunnel .

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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2010, 10:04:10 PM +0100 »

My race ended prematurely on lap one when I found myself incapable of going up a hill in a straight line. :/

I love this track but whole-heartedly agree with Bernie, this is not suitable for a Pro race unless you want to make it "last man standing". Not to mention, Int Long is 20 laps, around 65 minutes. That's enough torture, ta!

Oh, and this would rock in the 67s.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2010, 01:39:36 AM +0100 »

It sure requires a different approach, but that's the nice thing about. It's the same with any track of this sort such as Nurburgring, Sachsenring, Clermont Ferrand, etc. It just requires more practice and driving below your limit so you have a safety margin. You can't drive it flat out like Monza obviously.

With a good setup and decent amount of practice, it can be quite enjoyable, plus the fact that it punishes hotlappers and those who take too much risk makes it possible to have an unexpected result, allowing drivers who are normally out of contention for the victory to take advantage of the mistakes of those in front.

So stop moaning and start practicing.  Tongue

P.S. I have problems with my Internet, but when those are fixed I'll upload my pole lap on Youtube. I think it could be helpful to those who want to see braking points, lines and so on.

P.P.S. Jethro, you could've shift-red if you crashed. I did it a couple of times, lol. Got to work on consistency for the real race during the season.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2010, 09:17:18 AM +0100 »

Hristo: game crashed cos it couldn't handle my crashing, hence why you didn't see me beyond lap 1.
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2010, 10:44:06 AM +0100 »

The crazy thing about this track,  my one and only "clean" lap was slower than the other banzai laps when I bounced off the scenery , went grass cutting , orienteering etc. and made prolific use of the S/R function .

How you guys were doing those 3m 30's times is totally beyond me , just cant see where the 20 odd seconds comes from that I would need to stay even remotely competative  Embarrassed

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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2010, 08:37:35 PM +0100 »

Bernie I know how you feel. I had the 'pleasure' of being lapped by H two laps from the end. One second he was in my mirror, I tried to keep with him, and wasn't too far behind over the rail tracks, but boy, when he hit that gravel section he was GONE. Maybe he grew up on 'dirt tracks' lol.
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2010, 09:52:25 PM +0100 »

If the surface of Mars can be likened to a dirt track then yes,  I agree  Wink Wink Wink
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2010, 12:16:51 AM +0100 »

Have been having severe Internet problems in the last 3 days, but finally managed to upload my lap. Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKXLOWgPtpQ
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2010, 11:06:35 AM +0100 »

Server replay http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O4KNA1ER

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