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October 10, 2010, 09:55:42 PM +0100 - Mosport - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 2 +1.573
104.447mph
1 38:44.356
102.800mph
27 1:24.307
104.971mph
Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 4 +1.744
104.237mph
2 +15.974
102.099mph
27 1:25.015
104.097mph
Goodyear  
maddog
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 3 +1.634
104.372mph
3 +56.241
100.372mph
27 1:23.900
105.480mph
Goodyear  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 6 +2.027
103.890mph
4 +1L
98.207mph
26 1:25.172
103.905mph
Firestone  
BookieW
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 9 +9.590
95.419mph
5 +43.435
96.419mph
26 1:29.467
98.917mph
Firestone  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 7 +2.309
103.547mph
6 +8L
98.364mph
19 1:26.905
101.833mph
Disco
Firestone  
hannah
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +5.459
99.867mph
7 +12L
91.556mph
15 1:27.615
101.008mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 5 +1.956
103.977mph
8 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 1 1:23.157
106.423mph
9 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

No reported incidents for this one and no driver took more then one Sh/R or failed to pit.

October 11, 2010, 11:20:58 AM +0100 - Mosport - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Works
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 1 1:20.385
110.096mph
1 49:23.737
107.500mph
36 1:21.164
109.039mph
Firestone  
Tom van Ostade
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 2 +0.895
108.884mph
2 +7.920
107.214mph
36 1:21.453
108.652mph
Firestone  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 4 +1.350
108.278mph
3 +56.974
105.473mph
36 1:22.392
107.414mph
Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 5 +1.408
108.201mph
4 +1:15.886
104.816mph
36 1:21.686
108.343mph
Goodyear  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 10 +2.573
106.681mph
5 +1L
104.015mph
35 1:23.276
106.274mph
Goodyear  
jhalli
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 11 +2.935
106.218mph
6 +33.433
102.860mph
35 1:23.023
106.598mph
Goodyear  
b_1_rd
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 14 +4.901
103.769mph
7 +49.990
102.298mph
35 1:24.226
105.075mph
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 7 +1.830
107.645mph
8 +3L
103.655mph
33 1:22.507
107.264mph
Firestone  
Podkrecony_Ziutek
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +1.857
107.610mph
9 +8L
103.851mph
28 1:22.579
107.171mph
accident
Goodyear  
Rick Nauman
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +2.218
107.140mph
10 +17L
99.291mph
19 1:22.771
106.922mph
Disco
Goodyear  
john roberts
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 3 +1.350
108.278mph
11 +21L
105.315mph
15 1:22.617
107.122mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 12 +3.371
105.665mph
12 +31L
87.153mph
5 1:36.906
91.326mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Turkey Machine
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 6 +1.693
107.825mph
13 +32L
102.724mph
4 1:24.345
104.927mph
Disco
Firestone  
Baab
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 13 +3.725
105.220mph
14 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
hannah
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 15 ---
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Firestone  
EasternSun
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 16 16 ---
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Goodyear  
hannah
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 17 ---
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Goodyear  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 18 ---
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Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 15 19 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

No reported incidents for this one.

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« on: September 27, 2010, 02:54:33 PM +0100 »

Let battle commence. The first race of Season 20 kicks off at Mosport. For the first race you will start with 10 tokens plus 10 for crossing the start/finish line.

Subject to a viable number of entrants we will be running two separate grids for Works and Privateers drivers this season. The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

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Works = UKGPL_6
IP address = 80.5.200.198
Privateers = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 10-10-2010
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Mosport 67
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = Works; PRO / Privateers; INT
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 36)
Password: see above

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
The track can be downloaded from : original papy track
Add-on’s available at : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=2168  or 3099

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time

Reserve drivers should not join the server(s) until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left. Please restrict chat to pit messages. Moderating will be by reported incidents only, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident with a particular emphasis on lap one. The aim is to review the race the following weekend so incident reports should be submitted within five days of the race (ie the following Friday). We're hopeful most incidents can be resolved amicably and recommend a days deep breath with a replay review before posting. A sorry in the forum won't be taken as an automatic admission of guilt by the moderators.
The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

With the token system chassis strategy will be a factor. A driver must have sufficient tokens for the chassis he drives in the race.  Any driver who does not have sufficient tokens will be disqualified from the result and his tokens will be set to zero.

Chassis costs;
Lotus 20 / Eagle 17 / Ferrari 15 / Brabham 10 / Cooper 5 / Honda 3 / BRM 0

To see your current tokens hover your mouse over your total points on the championship standings page. Ten tokens will be added when you cross the start line.

The Championship is split into two sub-divisions, namely Works and Privateers. The driver split will be;

WORKS drivers
Kinghiro (R)    
Evil Clive  
Hristo    
Tim FMG    
Steve Bird        
John Roberts  
Al Heller    
Vosblod    
Jethro    
Sam B    
Bartosz (Pod)    
Baab (R)    
Beefpie (R)    
Rick N (R)    
JHalli (R)    
Fulvio P (R)  
Tommie van O (R)    
EasternSun (R)    
   
   
   

PRIVATEERS drivers
Bernie      
Burtoner    
Mike Turner    
Billy Nobrakes    
Bookie W    
Nigel Smith    
Fabio (Il Lupo)    
Ronnie Peterson      
Paul Badblood    
Martin Maddog (R)    
Ross Gilles27 (R)    
Hannah (R)    
Nicky I (R)  
Happy Al (R)  
 D-Rock (R)  
   
 
   

EasternSun (R) - sub-division to be decided upon

67 Patch: The 1.3 Release of the 67mod can be used.

NOTE: Please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count.

The track was designed and built in the late 1950s, and held its first major race in 1961, the Player's 200, a sports car race bringing drivers from the world over to rural Ontario. Stirling Moss won the event in a Lotus 19. The proposed hairpin was expanded into two discrete corners, to be of greater challenge to the drivers and more interesting for the spectators, at his suggestion, and is named Moss Corner in his honour. This is a source of lingering confusion as many people call the track Mossport. It has had a succession of owners since the original public company created to build the track. Mosport achieved acclaim though a series of international sports car races under the title "Canadian Grand Prix" normally reserved for Formula 1 races. F1's Grand Prix of Canada remained at the track until 1977.
Unlike many historic motorsport venues, Mosport's track layout has remained mostly unchanged from its original form.
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2010, 05:46:06 PM +0100 »

Let battle commence. The first race of Season 20 kicks off at Mosport. For the first race you will start with 10 tokens plus 10 for crossing the start/finish line.

Does that mean the best car anyone can get for the first race is Brabham (10 tokens)? What does "10 for crossing the start/finish line" mean exactly? You get them AFTER you cross the line once, after you finish the first race or what?

Oh and another question - are we going to use GPL TV for this race?
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2010, 06:33:05 PM +0100 »

Hristo, the 10 tokens starting point means if you cross the line in the Lotus you get enough tokens to not be disqualified for taking it. So anybody can take any car for the first race.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2010, 06:48:33 PM +0100 »

Tokens per Jethro - you'll get 20 in total when you cross the start line at the beginning of the race.
GPL tv - sorry not yet need to physically put it on ukgpl -6, will do it during the week.
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2010, 09:35:18 PM +0100 »

Bad luck tonight: I'm not able to join the server (error 10054). cursing
It's better going to sleep, as I have to wake up in 5 1/2 because of a job trip...
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2010, 09:53:42 PM +0100 »

You weren't the only one Fabio, Bernie was also having problems joining.

Managed to string an error free lap and a PB in the Honda of a 1:22.0 in qualifying, and come the start I was reasonably confident of keeping it on the island. However, whilst watching FMG and John Roberts battle in the two Brabhams I was increasingly aware of the threat from behind.

Then an opportunity arose on the exit of the last corner when John checked FMG up. I drove by on the outside, knowing full well he would be on the inside of T1. However warp contact halfway around put me into the outside barrier and a front-left wheel missing. 5 laps I managed.

Ah well, move on to the next one and see what carnage occurs.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2010, 09:56:29 PM +0100 »

Bad luck tonight: I'm not able to join the server (error 10054). cursing
It's better going to sleep, as I have to wake up in 5 1/2 because of a job trip...

The same for me Error 10054 detected on network wtf is going on  Angry
tried using IP address same result
tried re boot , tried cursing , tried everything
Could join WORKS on T7 but not Vos server

I Demand a null and void race , this happened last season and I lost points which ultimately wrecked my racing season  Angry
Now ruined again due to no fault of mine , hope you guys enjoy the rest of S20 series I'm out sorry but this is no good , got better things to do than feck about trying to join a stupid 3rd rate server

Correction , not even 3rd rate  Angry Angry Angry

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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2010, 10:01:41 PM +0100 »

Hardly the race I was hoping for. Thought I'd plump for my old favourite BRM for this race. Qualified a lowly 12th, about 8 tenths off Al's impressive benchmark. For the start, I couldn't see the flagman being around to corner and was slow to get away. Bob behind me, meanwhile had a screamer and went for the gap in-between me and another car. Sadly me and Bob touched, his race over and mine severely compromised with a damaged car.

I thought I'd try and carry, on, making places on attrition, lapping at around 10 seconds off the pace. Unfortunately, I got in the way of Bartosz on one of the sweepers, ruining his race. After that, I felt it wasn't worth it incase I ruined anyone else's race and pulled off.

Still, hopefully this can be put down as a troubled weekend. It'll be my centenary next race, so I must have a decent result there  Grin. Hope the rest of you had a good race.
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2010, 10:48:09 PM +0100 »

Congr :notworthy:ats to Ross in the Privateer race. I was never going catch you in my BRM. Thanks to everyone on the racing etiquette tonight. But especially Vos for getting our race together at the last minute!
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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2010, 11:06:21 PM +0100 »

Bernie,
Thats a bit over the top.
The main server fell over so Tim gave up his own race to run it off the home PC.
I could connect but got multiple dosconnects which killed my race before the start line - but this sort of thing happens with on line racing.
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« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2010, 11:08:56 PM +0100 »

I Demand a null and void race , this happened last season and I lost points which ultimately wrecked my racing season  Angry
Now ruined again due to no fault of mine , hope you guys enjoy the rest of S20 series I'm out sorry but this is no good , got better things to do than feck about trying to join a stupid 3rd rate server
Correction , not even 3rd rate  Angry Angry Angry
I'm sorry you feel that way Bernie but I respect your decision. The stupid third rate server was my home PC.
As you may be aware we have one 'dedicated' server which the members kindly donate towards - beyond that we have Mike's and mine. Mine is actually a laptop at another location and, although steady, is in a house and is subject to the odd blip. Tonight, with impeccable timing, after running with no problems for weeks, it crashed. I won't know why until I go there to find out.

So I had a choice tonight - either tell a whole bunch of drivers they had wasted their time turning up so I could wander off and join our paid for server to race in Works which I'm signed for OR run it off my own PC and in the process sacrifice my own race at a track I really like. I chose the latter as I take responsibility being the Division Moderator.

Most drivers managed to join and race without problem (I should know I had to sit there and watch). I am sorry you had issues getting in and have no idea why as the majority were fine.
I'm sorry you feel the server structure is no good (give us three dedicated servers God  Roll Eyes) but we are at the mercy of the goodwill of our drivers.
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« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2010, 11:47:15 PM +0100 »

Tim, it's honorable what you did, but to avoid sacrificing anyone's race, including yours, perhaps events should be rescheduled for the end of the season in such situations.

I had a very tough race after taking a comfortable pole position by nearly a second, but knew that the Honda fares differently in race trim.

Tom (not KingHiro) put up great pressure upon me right from the start and this lasted for the majority of the race. On occasions he was so close that I had to take big risks to stay in front and nearly went off a couple of times because of that. We even made contact at T3 some laps after the start when Tom braked a bit too deep, but fortunately nothing bad happened.

After some time Tom went off at T2 and gave me some breathing room, but I did the same a couple of laps later and rejoined JUST infront of him, and then the battle continued.

My car was becoming a bit easier to drive as the fuel load went down, but Tom just kept closing up, especially on the exit of T2 and only my good exits off Moss corner saved me from any real attacks. I still had to use the full revs of the Honda whenever necessary, so it was uncertain whether I would reach the finish.

Near the end of the race we caught up with Al and Evil, and after passing Evil I had to slot behind Al for almost a whole lap as apparently he took my Honda for Evil's, but at the same time Tom had another off and that decided the outcome of the race.

Very difficult race, but I'm happy with the way I conducted it except that off at T2 and a few minor errors, most of which as a result of pushing to the limit.
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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2010, 11:59:11 PM +0100 »

An ok start from 4 th gave way to Tim in t1. Tim seemed to loose a bit speed in the long lefthander but I didn t dear attack and backed off. I Honda passed me on the inside. * no prib see(JW maybe). would have enjoyed that position but after the jump I landed horribly wrong angled( focused on cars) and went straight out even before the right turn. With an unbeliavable luck my car got from it undamaged... I was granted third after other drivers mistakes. My pace was actually better than I thought it would be  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2010, 09:07:35 AM +0100 »

it was "one of those races" where nothing ever quite went as planned.  Undecided

Qually was slightly below what I had hoped for.
The start was just about OK.
The early laps were notable, only because I blindly followed Tom Hiro off the track at the end of the straight  Roll Eyes.
Rejoining almost last ( Sam's problems saved me from being dead last).
The "off" had altered something somewhere, as the car was never as predictabable as it should have been and the rear left tyre had developed its own internal heat source!!.
The middle of the race saw me pick up a few places as cars retired, until Tim decided to stop examining the scenery and stay on track long enough to chase me down  Undecided. Eventually the heat in the tyre reached critical mass and I left the track to allow Tim a clear pass.

Almost caught Al, but Hristo and Thomas decided that they would choose that moment to start lapping us, so we were obliged to yield and restart our battle. Then Thomas spun in front of me and timed his recovery to pass me again just as I ad caught up with Al!! In all the excitement I went wide and ripped a wheel off.
The perfect end to a perfect race..... Lips Sealed

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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2010, 09:41:20 AM +0100 »

Pleased to get a class win as I was seriously undercooked for this one. Took the lead at the start and built up a decent gap to Ronnie in second who was keeping me honest. Had three or four minor errors but had the lead at ten seconds when a backmarker spun between T3 and T4 leaving me to smash into them.

Was sure I would need a reset and stop and go, which would have lost me the race, but somehow my Brabham survived unscathed although Ronnie was right behind me. Managed to channel my frustration into some quick laps and pulled away to win.

My pleasure at victory is tempered by the fact that it was a depleted field, I'm sure Bernie for one would have been up there challenging or even winning. It was thanks to Tim that we had a race at all, and he sacrificed his works debut in order to try and give the privateers a run out on his own PC.

Bernie, I know you are really hacked off about what happened, but lets remember that UKGPL is not iRacing. We pay a voluntary amount each quarter and all the moderating and equipment is provided by members who give up their spare time to help us race. We have to expect that these things will happen from time to time. That said if the majority agree then I would be happy for the race to be declared as non-championship.
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