UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65) - Zandvoort (1967) - Nov 9

[Artiglietti]

Hi Ronnie, just got an incident report submission about our coming together, can I know if you submitted the report yourself and your view about the incident?

[Hristo Itchov]

If someone submits a report that involves another driver, that other driver automatically gets notified about the report by receiving a PM here on the forum and is given a chance to submit his/her own view of the situation.

[Artiglietti]

The moderator can send you that notification, without any of the drivers having submitted a report, according to what it says on the email I received.

In this case it might be relevant for me to know if the driver has submitted it himself and his views about the accident, before contacting the mods myself.

[Ronniepeterson]

Hi Attlio. H is right you should be notified I know I am! As instructed and to be helpful to the moderators I check out the replay asap and and look for incidents I am involved in especially where I cause a shift-r or take a shift-r I and submit a report. To be honest I invariably always ask for no action to be taken against the other driver (this case was no exception) as its all part and parcel of racing online. The incident we were involved in resulted in me taking a shift-r but no stop and go as I deemed at the time it was not my fault. However its not for me but the moderators to decide if I was right. As usual whatever they decide is good with me. Great pace by the way in qualifying and the race.

[vosblod]

We use the reporting system to keep submissions confidential. Basically you can respond stating your view of the incident which will be taken into consideration but neither driver can see the others comments.
I'd reccommend you just respond stating your view of what happened then the moderator will look at all driver submissions, together with any submitted clips, and review the incident against the replay. Obviously Ronnie has opted to respond here in this instance.

[Ronniepeterson]

Speaking to Attilio reminds me of something. The next novice race at Castle Coombe is scheduled for 30 laps?? That is going to be a pretty short race of not much more than 30 - 35 minutes, particularly at Attilio's pace. 

[Artiglietti]

Hi Ronnie, it looks to me like your car has been damaged (probably a puncture against the fence) in the second of the 2 spins you had in that same lap. You are limping around finding it hard to turn right well before we clash. Thats the reason you had to take a SR.

If confidentiality is such a substantial matter, I probably should have sent a PM, apologies.

In this case, and for obvious reasons, I felt it was important to me to know what Ronnie was reporting to the mods.

[BadBlood]

Speaking to Attilio reminds me of something. The next novice race at Castle Coombe is scheduled for 30 laps?? That is going to be a pretty short race of not much more than 30 - 35 minutes, particularly at Attilio's pace.  

Short for some than others - If we only do 30 mins I'll only get 26 laps in I am pretty consistently doing 1:08 - 1:10 but I just can't get it right - I know there are five seconds there somewhere but there is no way I am going to get to the pace of you podium boys.

i keep spinning on the first right hander after the kink left - I assume there is some kind of slope there but I can't see it. Anyone else find that corner tricky?

[Ronniepeterson]

Crumbs I really should be working hope no one spots me. Your right Paul that corner is tricky for me as well and I suspect some suspension tweaks might be in order but at what cost to the handling on the rest of the track. Some practice at the weekend for me I think. The problem I might have is the apparent sameness of the rest of the track that after a while you just forget where the hell you are and go sailing off!!! This one could be down to survival as much as speed. Good luck.

[EvilClive]

What you guys have just discovered is Quarry Bend, and yes it does have negative camber in RL too.

This corner is as notorious in real life as it is in GPL!!!!  Urban legend has it that 40% of all accidents on UK circuits happens at Quarry!!!

Entry speed to Quarry is not as important as the exit speed.

Just to show you how the professional do it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJfYO4qKAso&feature=related

[FullMetalGasket]

I've always considered Quarry fairly flat - compared to Tower at least 
(Can't remember if Tower is as dodgy in GPL as in real life)
Quarry is dangerous more for the braking zone over the brow into a left hander before turning right hard, it's so easy to upset the car too much or simply fail to slow enough. The camber is the least of your problems 

[blito]

quarry is not a worry for me - i shall be busily getting drunk with the father-in-law on race night so i wont be there at all...

[Hristo Itchov]

I've always considered Quarry fairly flat - compared to Tower at least 

For a minute I thought you mean "flat out" and was going to oppose! 

[b_1_rd]

I've heard it said that if you go into Quarry under full control, then you're not going fast enough.   

Combe is a tricky place to get right over 1 lap let alone 30.  Don't worry too much though, the marshals are good there to pick up the pieces 

[BadBlood]

I have found a short cut at Quarry through the daisies... doesn't affect my lap times much <ahem> and it is kind of Ronnie to suggest I need to tweak the setup - as if that actually makes a difference to me with my 'oh so fabulous' car control. ho ho.