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November 21, 2010, 08:38:52 PM +0000 - Mexico City (1962-1979) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Works
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 1 1:46.018
105.502mph
1 50:27.074
103.461mph
28 1:46.870
104.661mph
Firestone  
jhalli
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 7 +3.979
101.686mph
2 +1:01.771
101.392mph
28 1:48.475
103.113mph
Firestone  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 3 +2.160
103.396mph
3 +1:14.178
100.986mph
28 1:49.102
102.520mph
Goodyear  
Rick Nauman
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 6 +3.926
101.735mph
4 +1:26.297
100.593mph
28 1:49.413
102.229mph
Firestone  
Tom van Ostade
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 10 +4.973
100.775mph
5 +1L
99.662mph
27 1:50.619
101.114mph
Goodyear  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 8 +4.171
101.509mph
6 +41.302
98.322mph
27 1:50.913
100.846mph
Goodyear  
b_1_rd
 Clark-Hill Racing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 12 +5.840
99.994mph
7 +1:33.696
96.673mph
27 1:51.320
100.477mph
Firestone  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 14 +8.243
97.891mph
8 +2L
95.358mph
26 1:54.382
97.788mph
Goodyear  
Turkey Machine
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 9 +4.233
101.452mph
9 +3L
99.896mph
25 1:49.334
102.303mph
Disco
Firestone  
john roberts
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +2.275
103.286mph
10 +5L
101.203mph
23 1:48.590
103.003mph
Disco
Goodyear  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 11 +5.242
100.532mph
11 +9L
97.870mph
19 1:50.846
100.907mph
accident
Goodyear  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 13 +6.633
99.290mph
12 +17L
96.845mph
11 1:51.561
100.260mph
Disco
Goodyear  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 5 +2.700
102.882mph
13 +3.462
96.582mph
11 1:50.095
101.595mph
Disco
Firestone  
Baab
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 2 +1.780
103.760mph
14 +22L
97.779mph
6 1:48.661
102.936mph
Disco
Firestone  
5 UKGPL.67
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 15 15 DNS ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

A win for Hristo leaves him 4 points ahead of Tom with Al H close behind.
No reported incidents so a nice easy one to moderate.

November 22, 2010, 01:15:11 PM +0000 - Mexico City (1962-1979) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 1 1:49.124
102.511mph
1 52:48.234
98.863mph
28 1:51.266
100.538mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 3 +1.086
101.501mph
3 +10.237
98.544mph
28 1:50.272
101.444mph
Goodyear  
Toni Niemi
 
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 2 +0.548
101.999mph
4 +12.663
98.469mph
28 1:51.175
100.620mph
Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 6 +4.412
98.528mph
5 +1:41.794
95.785mph
28 1:53.595
98.477mph
Goodyear  
BookieW
 HikiWazaRacing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 10 +6.124
97.064mph
6 +1L
94.737mph
27 1:54.898
97.360mph
Firestone  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 8 +5.574
97.529mph
7 +38.066
93.620mph
27 1:54.329
97.844mph
Firestone  
hannah
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 11 +8.288
95.275mph
8 +2L
89.872mph
26 1:56.000
96.435mph
Firestone  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 5 +1.711
100.929mph
9 +10L
95.436mph
18 1:50.765
100.993mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Eagle T1G (Weslake 1967) F1 1967 7 +5.412
97.667mph
10 +13L
92.959mph
15 1:54.830
97.417mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +5.733
97.394mph
11 +22L
89.789mph
6 1:56.448
96.064mph
Disco
Goodyear  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 12 DNS ---
---
Goodyear  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 12 13 ---
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Firestone  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +1.563
101.064mph
Excluded +0L
98.574mph
28 1:51.247
100.555mph
Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

A win for Ronnie leaves him at the top of the table.
No reported incidents but see below for a couple of issues.
A reminder to everyone that you should not pit out until there are 30 minutes of qually time left - this is to allow everone to join the server and create a level playing field.


Server replay time: 0

In qualification Hannah pits out with 32 minutes left. No penalty (this time) but please remember you should not pit out until there are 30 minutes or less left on the clock. This is to allow all drivers time to join the server.


Server replay time: 0h08m11s

Maddog takes a reset but does not subsequently take the mandatory stop and go nor attempts to. The rules are unequivocal on this;
"any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result"

Hence there is a mandatory race disqualification.

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« on: November 18, 2010, 04:28:47 PM +0000 »

Arriba! Arriba! it's on to Mexico for our next outing. In the Works Tom is leading Hristo while, over in the Privateers, Ronnie hovers above the old Clubmans Meister Bernie.

Subject to a viable number of entrants we are running two separate grids for Works and Privateers drivers this season. The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

Race List = IGOR
Server(s);
Works = UKGPL_5
IP address = ping myjamesonline.net
Privateers = UKGPL_T7_2
IP address = 62.149.202.168
Race date = 21-11-2010
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Mexico City
Variant = 67F1
Damage Model = Works; PRO / Privateers; INT
Qualifying time = 35 minutes. Don't start until 30 mins left on clock to allow everyone to join.
Race length = 50 minutes (laps 28)
Password: see above

Please note in the event the IGOR racelist remains MIA instructions to join direct will be given out in the #UKGPL chatroom


Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
The track can be downloaded from : original papy track
Add-on’s available at : http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=5009

Please be in IGOR UKGPL chatroom by 8:50 pm UK Time

Reserve drivers should not join the server(s) until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left. Please restrict chat to pit messages. Moderating will be by reported incidents only, however the moderators reserve the right to review any incident with a particular emphasis on lap one. The aim is to review the race the following weekend so incident reports should be submitted within five days of the race (ie the following Friday). We're hopeful most incidents can be resolved amicably and recommend a days deep breath with a replay review before posting. A sorry in the forum won't be taken as an automatic admission of guilt by the moderators.
The Works will run on PRO Damage and Privateers will run on Intermediate Damage with the allowance of ONE shift-R reset. No Shift-Rs are allowed in practice unless authorized by the moderator. A Shift-R (fault or not) MUST be followed by a Stop & Go. A Shift-R for tyres/fuel is not allowed. Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result.

With the token system chassis strategy will be a factor. A driver must have sufficient tokens for the chassis he drives in the race.  Any driver who does not have sufficient tokens will be disqualified from the result and his tokens will be set to zero.

Chassis costs;
Lotus 20 / Eagle 17 / Ferrari 15 / Brabham 10 / Cooper 5 / Honda 3 / BRM 0

To see your current tokens hover your mouse over your total points on the championship standings page. Ten tokens will be added when you cross the start line.

The Championship is split into two sub-divisions, namely Works and Privateers. The driver split will be;

WORKS drivers
Kinghiro (R)    
Evil Clive  
Hristo    
Tim FMG    
Steve Bird        
John Roberts  
Al Heller    
Vosblod    
Jethro    
Sam B    
Bartosz (Pod)    
Baab (R)    
Beefpie (R)    
Rick N (R)    
JHalli (R)    
Fulvio P (R)  
Tommie van O (R)    
EasternSun (R)    
   
   
   

PRIVATEERS drivers
Bernie      
Burtoner    
Mike Turner    
Billy Nobrakes    
Bookie W    
Nigel Smith    
Fabio (Il Lupo)    
Ronnie Peterson      
Paul Badblood    
Martin Maddog (R)    
Ross Gilles27 (R)    
Hannah (R)    
Nicky I (R)  
Happy Al (R)  
 D-Rock (R)  
Toni Niemi (R)    
 
   

EasternSun (R) - sub-division to be decided upon

67 Patch: The 1.3 Release of the 67mod can be used.

NOTE: Please ensure you join the correct server, due to the way we import if you start the race on the wrong server your result will not count.
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2010, 12:38:46 AM +0000 »

This track is HARD! How in God's name does somebody do it in 1:50 in a 65. Sheesh. I'll be lucky to get 20 laps in if the Shift-R's don't get me... Sad
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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2010, 03:53:56 AM +0000 »

I've used up all of my tokens now so I'll be condemned to the BRM for the next two events while I save up enough to take the Ferrari again.

Before I joined this league I had never really driven the '67's in anger in years apart from fun race or two. When in a pickup race at Mosport while training for the UKGPL event I took the BRM for the first time in ages. It was then when it first dawned on me how horrible this car was! I was a second away from Al's times and giving it my all, but the gal didn't want to coöperate very well at all. Now I find out it's even worse at Mexico! All power comes at once, it doesn't drift, it doesn't brake, it doesn't go fast in a straight line, all it does is make a lot of noise and overheat the rear tires... I think I'll be at the other end of the grid here...

To make me feel more at home I made a red BRM P115. You can have it too, if you like. Backup your old brm4.3do first, though Smiley .

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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2010, 08:16:33 AM +0000 »

lol  welcome to the world of the Waza....almost.

Painting the BRM red might just confuse people enough that they move over to let that "ferrari" get past  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2010, 09:18:41 AM +0000 »

The BRM requires a different approach with the setup to make it work. It has more weight on the rear and more weight overall. That and the engine characteristics demand different suspension and differential settings. It can be quite a nice car to drive once you figure it out.  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2010, 11:08:09 AM +0000 »

Now I must defend the BRM having driven it pretty much all the time here at UKGPL  Grin. I found no problem in sliding the car around the track  Huh. Having said that I've had to rely on mainly hotlapper's setups due to my own useless setup skills. That does mean the tyres overheat into goodness knows what range. Maybe that's why I slide so much  Grin.
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2010, 11:28:58 AM +0000 »

Now I must defend the BRM having driven it pretty much all the time here at UKGPL  Grin. I found no problem in sliding the car around the track  Huh. Having said that I've had to rely on mainly hotlapper's setups due to my own useless setup skills. That does mean the tyres overheat into goodness knows what range. Maybe that's why I slide so much  Grin.

I've never managed to cure the overheating problem, though it depends on the track. The car is just too heavy for these tires!

Tom, a tip for better handling: try 85/60/5 differential setting (don't ask why, but it works great).
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2010, 01:23:40 PM +0000 »

I hate the Honda around here, although I have seen 1:45s pulled from it.
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2010, 01:41:26 PM +0000 »

It seems you hate the Honda around most places, perhaps you should get tips from Tom how to paint it green! Wink
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2010, 04:33:03 PM +0000 »

Painting a BRM red is like making love to a beautiful woman  Kiss

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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2010, 07:50:09 PM +0000 »

Painting a BRM red is like making love to a beautiful woman  Kiss



Waiting for her to stab you next time eh?

It seems you hate the Honda around most places, perhaps you should get tips from Tom how to paint it green! Wink

No fair.....
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2010, 07:56:06 PM +0000 »

Now I must defend the BRM having driven it pretty much all the time here at UKGPL  Grin. I found no problem in sliding the car around the track  Huh. Having said that I've had to rely on mainly hotlapper's setups due to my own useless setup skills. That does mean the tyres overheat into goodness knows what range. Maybe that's why I slide so much  Grin.

I've never managed to cure the overheating problem, though it depends on the track. The car is just too heavy for these tires!

Tom, a tip for better handling: try 85/60/5 differential setting (don't ask why, but it works great).

Hmm I'll try that, thanks. Not been my week so far, and I missed out on the GPLRacer GT Fun Race just now due to bad luck with joining problems. Feeling frustrated and feel like taking it out on the BRM and drive it round for that elusive 1:50.xx ...

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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2010, 09:26:54 PM +0000 »

Just been out to buy a new graphics card, not sure it was a wise move Sapphire Radion 5670HD with no fan but the mother of all heatsinks...time will tell. The fan keeps stopping on my 9800GT, only just had the blighter repaired

Errm...what's the score with IGOR, my status shows as disconnected with no race list, though there are about 20 people on chat.  I know there were problems earlier in the week.  Is it just me with probs now? 

Cheers,

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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2010, 09:35:33 PM +0000 »

Hardware probs from our Igor host, Bob, is what I read from those who know.  Probably all the new GTs thrashing around.  They're heavier than single seaters, you know.  Perhaps we should've  been driving them around more carefully?
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2010, 09:43:09 PM +0000 »

Cheers,

Just been on the chat and was forwarded to:

http://srmz.net/index.php?s=371639a96e7307a31e888325e4b83e67&showtopic=3719&st=936&p=54489&#entry54489)

Not much more info mind!

Quite like the GTs too, good to have a burn before people start getting too serious with setups and disappearing off into the distance (perhaps just my inability to set a car up)!

Who's leading the prayers to the IGOR gods?
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