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  • S20Gr VIR: December 05, 2010
December 05, 2010, 09:59:47 PM +0000 - VIR (Full) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Works
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 3 +3.046
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1 50:28.561
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27 1:50.916
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Firestone  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 5 +3.619
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2 +9.306
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27 1:51.195
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Goodyear  
Podkrecony_Ziutek
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 6 +3.885
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3 +53.194
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27 1:51.907
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Goodyear  
john roberts
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 11 +5.887
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4 +1:21.618
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27 1:53.098
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Goodyear  
Baab
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 10 +5.624
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5 +4L
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23 1:51.984
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Goodyear  
Tom van Ostade
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 2 +1.338
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6 +9L
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18 1:49.871
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Firestone  
Samb
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +4.772
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7 +12L
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15 1:52.308
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Goodyear  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 7 +3.946
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8 +21L
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6 1:53.092
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Firestone  
jhalli
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 8 +4.741
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9 +22L
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5 1:51.822
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Firestone  
Rick Nauman
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +3.402
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10 +26L
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1 2:02.279
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Goodyear  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 11 +24.016
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1 2:23.583
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Firestone  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 1 1:47.843
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12 +27L
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0 ---
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Firestone  
john roberts
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 13 DNS ---
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Firestone  
5 UKGPL.67
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 14 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

A win for Evil in this one still doesn't put him at the top but won't do any harm in his quest for the Championship. Tom still leads over Hristo.
No reported incidents.

December 06, 2010, 01:07:55 PM +0000 - VIR (Full) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 2 +0.905
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1 53:08.865
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27 1:55.409
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Firestone  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 3 +1.795
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2 +31.767
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27 1:55.041
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Firestone  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 5 +4.296
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3 +1:37.202
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27 1:56.467
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Firestone  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 8 +8.699
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4 +1:54.417
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27 1:57.301
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Goodyear  
hannah
 
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 7 +6.774
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5 (+1) +1:58.150
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27 1:57.071
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Firestone  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 10 +26.565
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6 +5L
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22 2:13.383
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Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 4 +3.061
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7 (+1) +7L
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20 1:55.283
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Goodyear  
Ronniepeterson
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 1 1:52.884
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8 +14L
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13 1:54.236
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Goodyear  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 6 +4.665
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9 +25L
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2 2:12.755
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Firestone  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 10 DNS ---
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Firestone  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 9 +19.407
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11 ---
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Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 12 ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Bernie's second win of the season leaves him top of the championship with Ronnie and Fabio following on. Someone forgot the stop in Stop and Go plus one incident (see below).


Server replay time: 0h05m18s

Billy takes a pit in following a reset at 03m29s. However he does not actually completely stop.
The Rules have this;

Incorrect Pit Stop
If a driver makes a pit stop (either mandatory or a S&G due to a Shift-R) but fails to bring the car to rest in the stalls. The moderator may decide an unfair advantage has been gained and consequently a time penalty may be applied equal to 3 times the number of seconds gained. Where the number of seconds gained cannot be determined with any confidence, the moderator may decide to impose a standard 5 second penalty.

Accordingly a 5 second time penalty will apply. If this was habitual or did not appear to be an oversight consideration could have been given to treating it as failing to comply with the Graduates Shift/R rules with a resultant Disqualification.


Server replay time: 0h43m21s

MH is running slightly behind and to the right of HH as they run down towards Horseshoe, he can be clearly seen in HH's mirrors. MH is beginning an attempt to pass on the inside as they approach the corner which could be considered a somewhat risque manouver, but not illegal. HH takes an unusual line, compared to previous laps, and begins to turn in right much sooner then normal. This effectively shuts off the window which MH appears committed to.
On the face of it this incident constitutes a rear end shunt by MH and there was no overlap. However Hannah turns in far earlier then normal knowing Martin is closing on the right behind him. This looks like, a conscious or not, attempt to close the gap through which Martin is attempting to squeeze.
The Rules have this;

Blatant Blocking/Weaving: Penalty 2 Places
The blocking driver changed his line in RESPONSE to the following car's movement and after the following car was committed to his line. Contact is made

However in recognition of the fact that the attempted manouver was somewhat ambitious and Hannah did not make a sudden move to the right, more a covering manouver, this penalty will be reduced by 1 place.

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« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2010, 10:37:12 AM +0000 »

bernie, the only flags I did see were blue. You should have seen them as you lapped me.
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« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2010, 11:48:00 AM +0000 »

bernie, the only flags I did see were blue. You should have seen them as you lapped me.


I've been reliably informed that the way GPL works only the driver being lapped would see the blue flags. So in that case Nigel would have seen the flags but Bernie would not.
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« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2010, 02:22:13 PM +0000 »

bernie, the only flags I did see were blue. You should have seen them as you lapped me.


I've been reliably informed that the way GPL works only the driver being lapped would see the blue flags. So in that case Nigel would have seen the flags but Bernie would not.

That's correct, although it looks different on the replay and you can see the flags there.
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« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2010, 05:02:11 PM +0000 »

Hannah, I've no room in the cockpit for the drum kit, I'll leave on the grid in front of you Smiley

very droll  Wink

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« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2010, 07:42:20 PM +0000 »

The easier way (note I said easier not easy )

Check lap times using GPLRA , anyone lapping less than 1m59s gets banned  Smiley

I was kind of hoping for 2:05 Wink

Incidentally all I ever see is blue flags - even in Qually!
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« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2010, 01:17:02 PM +0000 »

Seems you can do a whole lot of corner cutting here , can almost straight line the esses and a few others give a big advantage if you do a bit of lawn mowing . (my times are still cr*p though)
Wonder if there are penalties for going green ?
Are you asking me to re-enable the checkpoints?  Grin

Nah, just run through the race replay 18-19 times, watching it from every driver's onboard camera and observe who's cutting with more than 2 wheels.  Grin

Maybe dig out the old Cooper Norton for this race then , if it will pass scrutineering  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2010, 12:52:36 PM +0000 »

where are the servers on Igor?

Thanks,

Malcolm ( hannah )
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« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2010, 02:29:51 PM +0000 »

The IGOR racelists are down/disconnected because they are linked to the GPLRank website which is also down. In the absence of someone setting up the server and posting an IP address here we will just have to wait for details in the chatroom tonight.
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« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2010, 03:07:36 PM +0000 »

I am thinking this is a straight forward.

My GPL is set up for TCP/IP and all I have to do is type in the IP address?

We will not use GEM+2. Correct?

Thanks for replying.

Malcolm ( hannah )
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« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2010, 03:09:52 PM +0000 »

Thats about the size of it and I'm sure the guys in the chatroom will give details and help everybody join the appropriate race.
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« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2010, 03:31:43 PM +0000 »

IMPORTANT NOTE (5/12/10)

As you will be aware the IGOR racelist has been down for some time. This has caused subsequent problems with race hosting involving drivers having to join direct via IP. From the moderators point of view there are extra problems I won't bore you with suffice to say we cannot fire up the remote servers in the usual way.

Tonights event WILL go ahead but launching the servers may take longer then usual so please bear with me if things don't kick off dead on 9pm. I have tested the servers and they are both fine but can take a while to fire up.
A note of the IP's to be used will follow and will also be provided in chat.
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« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2010, 05:05:50 PM +0000 »

Maybe it's a silly question: why it's not possible to host both races with VROC tonight?
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« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2010, 05:23:55 PM +0000 »

Maybe it's a silly question: why it's not possible to host both races with VROC tonight?

Good point, it's 67s so why not
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« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2010, 06:12:58 PM +0000 »

Because it does not work!
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« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2010, 06:28:24 PM +0000 »

Because it does not work!

It does... I can go right now and host a 67 race on Vroc, and it works just fine.
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