Tuesdays

[Fred Basset]

Just because the Legend isn't widely used for road racing doesn't meant it isn't any good for it.

No and it doesn't mean it is either. As an alternating week if people want to race it fair enough, in terms of the changing cars weekly then I don't agree with this. At the time I expressed some concern was about the Endurance series I was told by a few of you it wasn't to replace the "sprint" series but to be different and that if someone wanted to organise a sprint series it would be fine. Paul's suggesting something to make the Tuesday races live on but instantly a completely different format has been suggested completely at odds with the current Tuesday series. I'm not sure I understand why this is.

Regards
Gary

[spanner]

Isnt the corvette closer to the DP than the radical? The radical seems quite close to the mazda pace wise.

[Paul Thurston]

Isnt the corvette closer to the DP than the radical? The radical seems quite close to the mazda pace wise.

Depends.  A quick look at the iRacing WRs shows the Rad to be the quickest of the three there but at Lime Rock it's the DP (no data for the Corvette).  Choose the tracks carefully and the three together would produce good racing.

Paul

[Simon Gymer]

I think for Sprints, we should just stick to one car and not be more than 40 minutes long. Don't care what the car is as long as it's not the Star Mazda again or the Solstice (obviously).

[Dave 'Gizmo' Gymer]

Isnt the corvette closer to the DP than the radical? The radical seems quite close to the mazda pace wise.

There's a running theme in the official C6R/SR8 races where I qualifying behind some of the Radicals in the Corvette, overtake them and pull away a little, and then by half distance my tyre performance has dropped off and they all come flying back past.

The problem with the SR8 compared to either of the other two is that its driving characteristics are so utterly different that it can be quite difficult for them to race each other - especially for the Radicals, whose only real weapon is late braking, making passing a Corvette quite risky if it's not inclined to cooperate.

The DP was a slightly better match for the Radical (last season's combo) in terms of character but in reality none of them are genuinely closely matched in any meaningful way.

[Paul Thurston]

I disagree that the Tuesday Radical races are sprints.  You don't have pitstops in sprint races and the Sunday night endurance races are only going to be 50% longer.  I'd call them middle distance if anything.

How about we run 40 minute Legend races without pitstops on one Tuesday in place of the Mazdas for one league and use the other as an hour long pitstop race?

If we stick to a single car for the hour long races on the other Tuesday then we're going to run into the same problem where there's a core of us who turn up all the time and others who lose interest halfway through the season.  How many people have disappeared muttering "I can't get the hang of this bloody car"?  And I'm not just talking about the Rad either.

Running three cars gives people an alternative option to going elsewhere and might keep the grids up.  I'm open to alternatives aimed at keeping people interested over a whole season.

Having said that it wasn't so long ago we had 17 starters at Brands in the Rad.  Maybe picking more popular tracks is something we should be looking at as well.

Paul

[Simon Gymer]

Now, I'm not just saying this cause it's my favorite car, but there is a niche for IndyCar races on Roads only imho as the official series is half and half and there are no European IndyCar leagues at all that I know of.

Endurance is covered by Sundays, so I would favour no more than 40 minutes, no pit stops on Tuesdays as some sprint action.

[Fred Basset]

Now, I'm not just saying this cause it's my favorite car, but there is a niche for IndyCar races on Roads only imho as the official series is half and half and there are no European IndyCar leagues at all that I know of.

Endurance is covered by Sundays, so I would favour no more than 40 minutes, no pit stops on Tuesdays as some sprint action.

Actually I'd have a go at that, just for a change, although I'd like to run an hour with pitstops! Its a good alternative idea though.

Simon have you got much better at those subliminal messages in your sig lately

Gary

[Paul Thurston]

I'd probably have a go at that too, though I don't really see what it gives us other than an extended version of the official series.  I also agree with Gary, I'd prefer an hour with a stop.  Not everyone can race Sundays.

The problem is again that there would be a core of people who like it and others who initially like it then decide they don't when they can't drive it or set it up.  It's going to be the same whichever car we pick if we only use one.

We have to solve the problem that exists, not try and change it to fit the solutions we each want.

[Ken Murray]

My preference would be no pit stop sprint races, and although I'm quite happy in the Mazda I wouldn't mind a switch to the Dallara. But Tuesdays are bad for me and although Sundays are better I'm not in to 90 min races. So it looks like my SROU options are limited!!

[Fred Basset]

To be honest Ken I'm not too bothered if we race Tuesdays or Wednesdays, don't know how others feel.

Regards
Gary

[Ken Murray]

To be honest Ken I'm not too bothered if we race Tuesdays or Wednesdays, don't know how others feel.

Regards
Gary

That would clash with Club England events, and although I don't join many of those I think a few other SROU drivers do, and it would limit any scope for attracting new ppl.

[Darren Seal]

This may be an unpopular view, but I feel we are worrying too much about upsetting the 50/50 guys when we should be worrying about keeping the guys who turn up for every race, no matter what.

Pick a format/car that 'core guys' want and then if the 50/50 guys want to join us, then that's a bonus...

A 60min Dallara Series (no roundy roundys) would get my vote too.  You owe me Simon.

[Simon Gymer]

You owe me Simon.

 

How about I cock up my fuel and have to pit early to let you get a clear track for a bit?

[Paul Thurston]

My only concern using the Dallara would be setups.  It's an incredibly complex car.

I wouldn't go for a fixed setup series as that takes away part of the fun for many people but how about an open setup policy where the top five finishers all publish their setup after each race?

Paul