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  • S20N Spa: December 07, 2010
December 07, 2010, 09:47:37 PM +0000 - Spa (GPL) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65)
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 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Artiglietti
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.183
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1 37:04.126
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10 3:41.066
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Dunlop  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 5 +1.561
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2 +13.513
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10 3:40.099
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Dunlop  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 6 +4.149
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3 +25.784
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10 3:42.343
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Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 4 +1.542
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4 +36.023
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10 3:39.831
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Dunlop  
miner2049er
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +5.210
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5 +36.844
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10 3:43.034
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Dunlop  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 10 +6.169
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6 +53.441
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10 3:43.188
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Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 11 +6.381
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7 +55.827
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10 3:41.972
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Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +6.553
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8 +57.713
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10 3:41.448
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Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 7 +4.808
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9 (+3) +1:10.740
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10 3:44.249
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Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +5.757
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10 +1:11.128
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10 3:42.079
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Dunlop  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 1 3:38.970
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11 +1:17.782
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10 3:41.083
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Goodyear  
adamg67
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 3 +1.085
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12 (+2) +7L
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3 3:41.731
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Goodyear  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 13 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
happyal
 Clark-Hill Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 14 ---
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Dunlop  
5 UKGPL.65
 
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 15 ---
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Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

Spa is a truly classic circuit and always brings some good close racing, none more close than Mike and Ronnie through Masta. How anybody can drive so closely with their eyes closed I'll never know.

The race wasn't without incident but was perhaps the cleanest of the season so far.

Martin Hunt continued his tradition of not completing a single lap on the circuit. Well done!

After the Christmas break we have 5 great tracks that will bring a thrilling close to the season.


Server replay time: 0h02m55s

MHunt and Norbert enter Stavelot side by side. Norbert can see MHunt on the inside but turns in too sharply.
The server shows no contact and the reaction of Norbert's Ferrari suggests Warp is involved but he clearly cut across MHunt who had his own spin following the incident.
MHunt is ahead at one point but having the inside line and the slower car, the cars are almost level at turn in.
Martin claimed responsibility for this incident but the moderators disagree. Norbert should have known Martin was there as he could clearly be seen and heard.

Unfortunately for Norbert, this is a lap 1 incident which adds an extra penalty place.
Norbert also took a SHIFTR with no SnG but seeing as it is almost Christmas I will waive the 30 second penalty as the 3 lost places is deemed sufficent.


Server replay time: 0h15m25s

Adam approaches La Source and brakes far too late.
As Fabio turns in to take the corner Adam hits him.
Adam has no overlap and simply out braked himself.
Adam was also having screen stutter problems in the race and retired following this incident.


Server replay time: 0h21m25s

So the trickiest incident of the moderation then, NHance is slow out of Malmedy and RogUK gains on him and attempts a pass on the left hand side while Norbert uses his superior power and exit speed to attempt a pass on the right hand side.
NHance had started to drift left but seeing RogUK he drifts right again where Norbert is squeezing past.
When Norbert starts his pass there is plenty of room and he is fully entitled to attempt a pass, though a more sensible approach would have been to do it on the run to Stavelot, but it is a valid overtake attempt and he does get alongside NHance.
Seeing NHance moving towards him he reacts by driving onto the grass and fights for control then moves back on to the tarmac where NHance now is beside him.
At this point I think Norbert is out of control but he is almost past NHance when the 2 collide and collect a helpless RogUK.

This was a tricky one because NHance moves across track a couple of times and Norbert loses control, so either could be penalised but because it is considered a valid overtake attempt I have classed it as a Contested Side by Side contact which penalises neither driver.
We do not want to discourage side by side racing or even in this case, 3 abreast racing and this was just an unfortunate incident.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h31m20s

Fabio passes Ronnie on the run down to Burnenville and they enter the left hander side by side but Ronnie takes too tight a line and suffers a warp contact from Fabio's Ferrari.
Fabio does drift out towards the centre line but Ronnie has already warped by that time.

Warp Incident

  • Racing incident

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« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2010, 12:53:58 PM +0000 »

I didn't relish this race.  I was reminded of a famous quote, about the trenches in the 1st World War, I think - hours of boredom, punctuated by moments of terror, or something along those racing lines.  But Mosport, on the other hand, now there was an exciting race!  Oh, Spa-Francorchamps . . . right. Sad

With no online testing, to compare notes with other drivers, I hurriedly gambled on a setup that was unwealdly, but which I hoped would be fast.  Starting last on the grid, it was my first lap carrying a race load, and I drifted wide into Norbert's Ferrari at Stavelot.  It was wheel to wheel contact, so no serious damage done, but what of ones pride!  "What will the neighbors say!" A big apology to Norbert and Enzo.

After that, nothing happened, until a decided moment of terror, when I found the track suddenly blocked by two slow moving cars at Masta!  One large cloud of smoke to order, and we all emerged intact.  Both Roger and Norbert soon slowed again, and I was alone once more.  In the last laps, my chassis finally started to behave, and I was able to catch Nigel, in the Honda, but I could do no more than hold onto his scurrying tail, towards the finish line.  And felt lucky just to have survived, with all four wheels accounted for.  I suspected the front runners, of knocking a few nonessential off on the way round, but couldn't get close enough to observe their technique! Smiley  
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« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2010, 03:58:09 PM +0000 »

Ross must have pretty quick feet - but I'll try anything.

BTW has anyone got any tips on getting through Acqua Minerale reasonably fast. I slow and then have to brake again as the corner tightens and I am in 2nd at the exit but it does not feel right. Losing lots of time at the back there.
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« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2010, 05:03:35 PM +0000 »

Ross must have pretty quick feet - but I'll try anything.

BTW has anyone got any tips on getting through Acqua Minerale reasonably fast. I slow and then have to brake again as the corner tightens and I am in 2nd at the exit but it does not feel right. Losing lots of time at the back there.

You should take a straight diagonal line through the initial part of the corner (which is rather fast) and brake towards the outside going down to 2nd gear for the slower part that goes uphill. Make sure to turn-in early because the car tends to drift a lot there on entry. The exit out of this one is crucial for your speed down the long straight to Rivazza so make sure to step onto the throttle as early as possible, preferably just before the apex.
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« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2010, 05:14:01 PM +0000 »

Cheers H.
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« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2010, 01:45:48 PM +0000 »

Race Mod Published.

Merry Christmas.
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« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2010, 04:16:48 PM +0000 »

Merry Xmas Mike. Thanks for the mod report. Roll on Imola!
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« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2010, 01:39:07 PM +0000 »

wow, that was the shortest mod report ever! are the novice standards improving or are we all just too far strung out to clash with each other now?
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« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2010, 02:17:50 PM +0000 »

Are the novice standards improving or are we all just too far strung out to clash with each other now?

Spa is usually quiet as most passes are planned and done on the straights.
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