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  • S20N Imola: January 11, 2011
January 11, 2011, 09:42:24 PM +0000 - Imola (2007+) - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Novices Trophy (65)
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
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miner2049er
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 4 +1.286
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1 34:15.568
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20 1:41.693
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Dunlop  
NHance
 Mountside Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 1 1:40.200
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2 +19.997
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20 1:41.235
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Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 10 +2.751
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3 +21.658
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20 1:41.056
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Dunlop  
Ronniepeterson
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 3 +0.861
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4 (+5) +37.515
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20 1:41.486
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Dunlop  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT11 (Climax) F1 1965 9 +2.333
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5 +42.832
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20 1:41.933
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Goodyear  
Artiglietti
 
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 2 +0.072
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6 +44.651
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20 1:40.676
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Dunlop  
norbert
 Antipasti Racing
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 6 +1.761
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7 +59.618
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20 1:41.768
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Dunlop  
Ross Neilson
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT7 (Climax) F1 1965 5 +1.657
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8 +1:03.545
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20 1:42.039
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Dunlop  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA272 F1 1965 11 +2.908
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9 +1:36.550
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20 1:42.680
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Goodyear  
BadBlood
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Honda RA272 F1 1965 13 +3.951
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10 +1L
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19 1:46.229
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Goodyear  
blito
 Nessuna Speranza
Ferrari 512 F1 1965 14 +4.312
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11 (+3) +4L
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16 1:42.887
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Dunlop  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 12 +3.026
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12 +15L
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5 1:43.574
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Dunlop  
roguk
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 7 +1.840
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13 +17L
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3 1:46.671
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Dunlop  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T77 (Climax) F1 1965 8 +2.111
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14 DNS ---
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Dunlop  
5 UKGPL.65
 
Lotus 33 (Climax 1965) F1 1965 15 ---
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Dunlop  

Moderator's Report

Imola may not be the most popular circuit in these parts, but it produced a fabulous race. Well, from Lap 2 onwards anyway. Norm's great Pole advantage soon disappeared as the flag fell, by which time RogUK was already on his second start of the afternoon.

Once the carnage on the grid had cleared and things settled down we ended up with some good battles throughout the field.

Paul seems to be coming on leaps and bounds but his Honda seemed to be a handful at times.

Mike's sugar in the fuel tank had the desired effect on Lap 5 and he never lost the lead from that point on. Well, not until Fabio put in the fastest parade lap of the season anyway.


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RogUK makes a false start when the flag is raised but realises his mistake and stops again.
He is told to pit and does so at the end of lap 2. He then pits at the end of lap 4 and retires.

If you are shown a Black Flag and told to pit, unlike a Stop n Go which you can take anywhere, you must take a Black Flag stop in your own pit box. This will clear your penalty and allow you to continue.

If you are in this position and believe you should be allowed to continue to race, then you can continue you may be re-inserted in the final result by the moderator.

  • Racing incident


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Ronnie gets a better start than Norm ahead of him and moves over to pass him.
I think Ronnie is trying to leave room on the left and take a centre line but he simply does not allow Norm enough room and hits him
This is the root cause of the carnage that followed.
Drivers should not forget that the start and the first few corners of a race are the busiest and are always more subject to warp and lag though that was not involved here.
For those reasons they should always be prepared to stick to their own side of the grid and if necessary follow a slower car through T1 and make a cleaner pass later in the race.
Having said that, Vosblod did the same thing further down the grid with success.
Ronnie did have enough room on the left hand side and simply did not leave enough room on the right for Norm.

A total of 3 places lost seems harsh, but this avoidable lap 1 incident caused carnage behind and ruined the chances of a win for several drivers.


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Blito can see carnage ahead but continues accelerating and leaves it too late to lift off.
He reduces his reaction time and clips a recovering NHance.

  • Racing incident


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Billy tries to take avoiding action but hits a stricken Ronnie who is upside down across the track.
Billy Gets hit by Fabio but neither can avoid the collision.
Paul has a side by side with Vosblod while avoiding other cars.
Norbert and Ross end up side by avoiding other cars and hit each other.

  • Racing incident


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Both Norbert and Vosblod are recovering from the carnage at the start and they hit each other.
Both can see the other one and both could have avoided a collision but neither lifts and they collide.

  • Racing incident


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Billy hits Nigel Smith in Tosa but cannot avoid the collision as Nigel is sat on track facing the wrong way and Billy was partially unsighted.

  • Racing incident


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Norbert pulls off the overtake of the race around the outside of Tosa.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h04m50s

Ross takes a Stop n Go for his lap1 SHIFTR but if it was not clear who was to blame I would continue and have the 30 second penalty added after the fact if necessary.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h05m29s

Paul sees somebody in the crowd that owes him a fiver and stops to collect it.
He then almost has to spend that fiver on a new nosecone when he rejoins.

  • Racing incident


Server replay time: 0h30m50s

Blito rejoins in front of Nigel and takes to the racing line.

Nigel sees him and slows but has nowhere to go.

If necessary, when rejoining you should use the alternate views to see if the track is clear, though it is possible that if Blito had not been revving so highly he would have heard Nigel approaching.

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« on: January 08, 2011, 03:37:38 PM +0000 »

UKGPL Season 20 Novices Trophy (1965 Mod) Race 6 January 11th

Round 6 of the Novices Trophy and once again the Amateurs cannot face the mighty challenge that the Novices seem so unafraid of. This is the first race of the New Year and the end of the Winter break, so what finer place to visit than the principality of San Marino at the Imola circuit?

I know I know, but we're here now.

Construction began in 1950 and the circuit was first used for Formula One in April 1963. This non-championship event was won by Jim Clark for Lotus.

Please be sure to take care on Lap 1 especially under braking for Tosa and Rivazza as Lap 1 incidents accrue an extra penalty place.

You can download the track here:
http://srmz.net/index.php?showtopic=485

Please see the Novices registration thread for an explanation of the chassis allocations shown below:
http://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?topic=8416.0

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DRIVER 
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Vosblod
Cooper
NHance
BT11
Miner2049er
Cooper
Il_Lupo
Ferrari
Billy NoBrakes
BT11
HappyAl
Ferrari
Gilles27
BT7
Burtoner
3
Nigel Smith
Honda
Ronnie Peterson
Lotus
Blito
Ferrari
Mark65
1
Artiglietti
Cooper
BadBlood
Honda
RogUK
Cooper
Norbert
Ferrari
Maddog
Cooper

RESERVE
DRIVER 
  CHASSIS 
Karliss
Honda
Adamg67
BT11
Maestro
Cooper

Reserve drivers should not join the server until there are only 30 minutes of qualifying left so as to give the FULL TIME drivers chance to join, and drivers are not to go out on track until there are 30 minutes of qualifying left as this helps all drivers join the server successfully.

Please restrict chat to pit messages if necessary, and this includes the end of the race, until all running drivers have completed the necessary laps.

The Novice races are run under Int Long rules and all incidents will be moderated.

Race List = IGOR
Server = UKGPL5
IP address = ping myjamesonline.net
Race date = 11-01-2011
Time = 21:00 UK time
Track = Imola (imola)
Variant = 65F1
Damage Model = Int
Qualifying time = 35 minutes
Race length = 20 laps
Password: see above

65 Patch: The 2.02 Release of the 65mod can and should be used.
http://bit.ly/d8dECl

Driver lists can be found on the championship standings page
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2011, 04:12:59 PM +0000 »

Round 6 of the Novices Trophy and once again the Amateurs cannot face the mighty challenge that the Novices seem so unafraid of.

What do you mean by that?  Huh
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2011, 09:06:36 PM +0000 »

Round 6 of the Novices Trophy and once again the Amateurs cannot face the mighty challenge that the Novices seem so unafraid of.

What do you mean by that?  Huh[/quote]

Haha! Every time the Novices and Amateurs use a different circuit I post something like that. The Amateurs are too scared of the difficult circuits that the Novices use so they pick easy ones like the Nurburgring instead.

Chickens.
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2011, 09:18:49 PM +0000 »

Haha i haven't noticed. I hope the Novices are going to switch to the easier AM tracks next season. Wink
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2011, 11:14:42 AM +0000 »

probably not - we novices prefer RACE tracks to RACE on, rather than leisurely drives through  picturesque scenery. I mean, what would be the point of trying to race at Nurby when the whole field gathers at flugplatz for a picnic every other lap?
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2011, 02:27:38 PM +0000 »

I mean, what would be the point of trying to race at Nurby when the whole field gathers at flugplatz for a picnic every other lap?

Unless it doesn't. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2011, 02:28:58 PM +0000 »

NOT stopping at flugplatz for a picnic? No, now come on H, that wouldnt be normal, would it....
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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2011, 06:54:07 PM +0000 »

I was wondering why that green banking is so bumpy! Roll Eyes
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2011, 09:51:03 AM +0000 »

Just done a few practice laps and felt I had it nicely sorted - ok I am going to be a bit slower than the other guys I expect that. Happy with my low 1:48's until I check the lap record. HOLY COW!!!

Back to practice....
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 07:17:22 PM +0000 »

Yay - got to 1:45 dead - now I just have to reproduce it in the race...
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2011, 10:12:00 PM +0000 »

i hate this bloody game...
spun the car FOUR times by putting it into neutral!
after my last spin i did a bad rejoin and took out nigel.. sorry m8
might have to give this a rest for a while as that was just 100% fustration!
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2011, 11:37:22 PM +0000 »

Qualification was good and blito was just 0.4 ahead of me. I knew I had more because I had done a 1:44 in practice. Pushed and got a 1:44.15 to get off last place. Really pleased.

Tyres were cooking though so I tweaked the camber of the offside front to try and cool it a little. Felt OK so went for it in the race. BIG mistake - really evil handling round Piratella although it was more friendly round Rivazza and Tosa.

Started well and gained a few places then big crash in front and in trying to avoid it I took out Vos - sorry Tim. I was Ok somehow and was in fourth! Got the line slightly wrong at Piratella and touched the grass. Despite my best efforts the back end went round and I watched as five went by. Frustrating.

Held Ronnie off for a lap (fun) and then had Vos chasing and clearly quicker but I thought I might hold him off for a while but went too deep into Acqua and ended up on the grass but under control. Mistake two, five places lost. Grrr. Next time round same thing at Piratella - bump sent me right. Odd because that just never happened in practice, so after that v cautious which cost me bundles of time. The others reeled me in and I was soon last - hoped to stay unlapped for longer but made a couple of mistakes at Rivazza that cost me ten seconds and meant I was lapped on lap nine. Disappointing.

Staedy after that and made sure I stayed out of the way of the leaders. First time that I didn't have to shift-R, not everyone who finished lapped me and I wasn't last in qualifying and I am still disappointed! I think I may be improving at last. Did practice hard for this one and it showed I think.  
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2011, 12:14:17 AM +0000 »

Started well and gained a few places then big crash in front and in trying to avoid it I took out Vos - sorry Tim.
No worries if you did not your fault, I got past a couple at the start and hoped to settle in then carnage ahead.
I might be guilty of a bad rejoin - is that places or time based on who suffered Wink - I waited, saw the track was clear except for someone on the grass and turned it round. Me and Mr Green came together - sorry didn't realise you were rejoining, no replay saved so not sure who it was.

Did a few laps but I'd lost my mojo after the start carnage.
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2011, 09:22:47 AM +0000 »

Qualified 5th which was about what I expected. Slow off the line but that gave me a better run through the initial crash, however my luck ran out after that as I was hit on the left by a Ferrari. After my reset I was dead last and I took a stop and go just in case my crash was my fault (as I did move left slightly before the impact). This left me well back so it was a case of trying to lap quickly and consistently and hope the pack came back to me. Ended up 8th which is my worst result for ages, however I was pleased with my driving overall.

Well done to Mike for the win and to the other podium finishers. Special mention for BadBlood who is making some solid progress - well done Paul.

See you all at Kyalami in two weeks.
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2011, 09:37:44 AM +0000 »

Cheers Ross. That is nice of you to say.

No worries if you did not your fault

Not sure Mike will see it like that but I can always appeal to the Chief Mod - who is that btw?
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