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January 13, 2011, 08:44:04 PM +0000 - NHMS (Road) - UKPnG Version 2 Season 5
Driver
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Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
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Miguel de Raton
 
Ford Falcon (#68090) P&G Group 5 1 1:17.475
75.764mph
1 27:28.973
74.753mph
21 1:17.290
75.945mph
Dunlop  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Ford Falcon (#68090) P&G Group 5 3 +0.385
75.389mph
2 +0.486
74.731mph
21 1:17.378
75.859mph
Dunlop  
Ade
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Cortina (#66011) P&G Group 2 4 +0.541
75.239mph
3 +12.926
74.172mph
21 1:17.890
75.360mph
Dunlop  
Legzy
 Team Oldie Racing
Ford Falcon (#68043) P&G Group 5 7 +1.245
74.566mph
4 +24.722
73.649mph
21 1:18.071
75.186mph
Dunlop  
Mike Miller
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Falcon (#68104) P&G Group 5 8 +1.591
74.240mph
5 +25.075
73.634mph
21 1:17.761
75.485mph
Dunlop  
Clive Loynes
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus Cortina (#67039) P&G Group 2 6 +1.205
74.604mph
6 +26.158
73.586mph
21 1:18.287
74.978mph
Dunlop  
Geoffers
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Cortina (#67039) P&G Group 2 10 +1.694
74.143mph
7 +26.678
73.563mph
21 1:18.401
74.869mph
Dunlop  
Phil Gilliland
 Team Pseudo Racing
Lotus Cortina (#64057) P&G Group 2 14 +4.769
71.371mph
8 +1:07.582
71.810mph
21 1:19.822
73.536mph
Dunlop  
Hotkeys
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Lotus Cortina (#67039) P&G Group 2 13 +4.607
71.512mph
9 +1:09.044
71.749mph
21 1:19.431
73.898mph
Dunlop  
Alex vV
 Gentlemen Drivers Club
Lotus Cortina (#64057) P&G Group 2 15 +4.842
71.308mph
10 +1:10.541
71.687mph
21 1:20.625
72.804mph
Dunlop  
phspok
 Team Pseudo Racing
Ford Falcon (#68104) P&G Group 5 5 +0.809
74.981mph
11 +1:11.662
71.640mph
21 1:18.516
74.760mph
Dunlop  
jpv
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Cortina (#65025) P&G Group 2 11 +3.390
72.588mph
12 +1:11.888
71.631mph
21 1:19.776
73.579mph
Dunlop  
BillThomas
 Kerb Crawlers
Lotus Cortina (#64057) P&G Group 2 17 +5.521
70.724mph
13 +1L
69.097mph
20 1:22.335
71.292mph
Dunlop  
ginsters sponsored
 Kerb Crawlers
Ford Falcon (#68043) P&G Group 5 2 +0.249
75.521mph
14 +8L 13 1:17.611
75.631mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Wiltshire Tony
 Toyland Racing
Lotus Cortina (#64057) P&G Group 2 16 +5.130
71.059mph
15 +9L 12 1:22.315
71.309mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Lorenzo Galluzzi
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ford Falcon (#68104) P&G Group 5 9 +1.649
74.185mph
16 +13L 8 1:20.576
72.848mph
unknown
Dunlop  
Tibernius
 Prodigy Racing
Lotus Cortina (#66011) P&G Group 2 12 +4.281
71.797mph
+21L 0 ---
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suspension
Dunlop  
SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
GTR2
P&G Group 2
1:18.016
75.239mph
Ade
Qualifying
Lotus CortinaJanuary 13, 2011, 08:44:04 PM +0000
P5
GTR2
P&G Group 2
1:17.890
75.360mph
Ade
Race
Lotus CortinaJanuary 13, 2011, 08:44:04 PM +0000
P5
GTR2
P&G Group 5
1:17.475
75.764mph
Miguel de Raton
Qualifying
Ford FalconJanuary 13, 2011, 08:44:04 PM +0000
P5
GTR2
P&G Group 5
1:17.290
75.945mph
Miguel de Raton
Race
Ford FalconJanuary 13, 2011, 08:44:04 PM +0000
P5
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« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2011, 05:50:59 PM +0000 »

Race start time depends on how long it takes to get through qualifying. I plan to start racing as soon as qualifying is complete. The quali start time is correct. Race start time may be a little earlier or later than the estimated 30 minutes for quali. It really depends on the number of drivers and effeciency with which we can get people on track. This is a test afterall.

Qualifying order will be in reverse order of the practice times. So you are next on track if your name is on the bottom of the list. If you join during quali, you better get in the driver's seat very quickly because you are up next. It is best if everyone joins during the practice session.

For this 1st test, I'd like to run 1 driver on track at a time. Going forward though, it makes sense to have 1 driver out on a hot lap and a 2nd on an out lap following the hot lap driver. This will reduce the overal time required to run the quali session and still give others a chance to watch the hot lapper on track sweat.
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« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2011, 05:54:47 PM +0000 »

Does the quali start time work for you guys in the UK? Obviously I can't change things for tonight, but if it is too early or late I can make adjustments for future events.
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« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2011, 06:52:52 PM +0000 »

Times are fine for me at least  Smiley
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« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2011, 09:05:45 PM +0000 »

Enjoyed the quali session. The odd one off special would be fun Smiley

Put fuel in but forgot to change quali tyres. Race not much fun cause of that.

Welcome Miguel  Smiley
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« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2011, 09:09:05 PM +0000 »

Really liked the qually format and we could let more drivers on the track at in future to save time.

Track was OK too
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« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2011, 09:32:22 PM +0000 »

Probably the most enjoyable race I've had in any SIM for over a month (might not sound much, but that's probably approaching 15 races laugh)

Was going really well at the start, but span on the inside of T1 after about 4 laps hanging onto the leading group. Spent a few laps catching up to Geoffers & Clive & then saw Mike suffer the same as I had & drop back behind us some.

Try as I might, I just couldn't make a move on Clive & he was struggling with Geoffers, then I really tried to apply the pressure, got one chance & took it... then clung onto it for all i was worth. We were so close Clive & me from about lap 7 till the finish line. On the last 4/5 laps we were joined by Mike, that put a cat (a bloody big one!) amongst the pigeons I can tell you! He got past Clive & even got past me for a corner, twice I think! laugh

Brilliant stuff. I'd never have predicted that from my history of this track. Really liked qually too. Think we could have had 2.5 ( wacko)on track right through though. Smiley
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« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2011, 09:38:49 PM +0000 »

Probably the most enjoyable race I've had in any SIM for over a month

I totally agree Legzy Grin Didn't have the time to practice much, but I had someone to chase or keep behind me for most of the race.

This track was ideal for a duel between the Falcon and the Lotus ...... a superb choice Mike  thumbup1 thumbup1

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« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2011, 09:41:20 PM +0000 »

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Enjoyed the whole deal, I think the one at a time may get old eventually, if so we can get 2.538 on the track at once
then you can choose who you want to watch. Spun and maybe was assisted down the banking at T1
went off same place later, but had fun dicing with people, had some good clean racing with Bill twice  Cool
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« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2011, 10:11:25 PM +0000 »

Fantastic fun for me tonight. I really enjoyed the quali format. It mixed up the field a bit which made for some interesting racing as well as applied pressure to the driver on his hot lap. Having two cars with different personalities and similar lap times also helped. I most enjoyed watching FMG and others slide the arse of the led sled Falcon around the track. Miguel might remember how fond I am of the purple Falcon sprint from our racing days at Race 2 Play.

For the next round, let's try the 2 cars on track. Lorenzo lined up at pit exit in preperation for the starter asking him to go. I think this worked well.  Matt did a brilliant job with the starter duties. Going forward we'll leave it up to the starter's discression on how to best seperate the drivers. Under no circumstances though should a person on his hotlap be impeded or pressured from behind. When get really comfortable with 2 or find ourselves on a large circuit then we can run more.

It was interesting to see so many drivers including myself were quicker in the race than quali. It is tough to get a perfect lap with only 1 shot. It's even tougher if you have 0 practice and don't know your way out of the garage and onto the pit lane.  laugh

I had many, many close battles with others on track today. The battles with FMG, Ade, Legzy and Clive stand out. FMG pulled off a brilliant pass entering the outfield takeing Ade and I 3 wide. He wasn't suckered into the deep braking duel Ade partook in and then FMG held his ground on the inside and refused to yield. Brilliant stuff FMG!

Many congrats to Miguel for his first trifecta (pole, win, fast lap).

This was a test round. The next will be the 1st race in season 5.
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« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2011, 11:34:39 AM +0000 »

Good race, really enjoyed throwing the Cortina around. Grin

I must admit I was a bit dubious about the new qually procedure, I thought it would mean a lot of sitting around twiddling your thumbs. But it was actually quite exciting & a bit nerve-wracking when it came to your turn. thumbup1

Race was great fun, had a good battle with Clive for several laps until I put it off the road at the downhill left. Drove hard after that to catch back up & got on the tail of the battle for 4th with about 3/4 of a lap to go. Might have made up a place or two if the race hadn't finished early, these timed races have a habit of not running the full distance in P&G. Huh

Congrats & welcome to Miguel & congats also to FMG & Ade. clap clap clap

PS: If any of you P&G fans are sat around with nothing to do on Sunday, over at NG we are running a P&G race at Reims. http://www.nogripracing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237572
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« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2011, 12:24:39 PM +0000 »

Carrying on a point that Geoffers picked up on..........why do we have to have race distance set by time. Surely by race day there is the info available to gauge what the no. off laps will be give or take a lap either way?
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« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2011, 03:27:03 PM +0000 »

Carrying on a point that Geoffers picked up on..........why do we have to have race distance set by time. Surely by race day there is the info available to gauge what the no. off laps will be give or take a lap either way?

Race distance by time was unintensional and a mistake on my part. I while preparing the race, I jotted down 30 minutes for the race distance, but forgot to calculate the number of laps after my testing. I simply entered the data from my notes into the race announcement.
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« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2011, 07:05:44 PM +0000 »

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Enjoyed the whole deal, I think the one at a time may get old eventually, if so we can get 2.538 on the track at once
then you can choose who you want to watch. Spun and maybe was assisted down the banking at T1
went off same place later, but had fun dicing with people, had some good clean racing with Bill twice  Cool


Yes that was great fun particularly my racing with you and the first time I think, we had Stig / Hotkeys between us with his Lotus Cortina - all of us giving the others room to race. Like someone else said earlier I've never thrown a Lotus Cortina around like that before - Mike's earlier advice on changing the Mini handling stuck in my mind - so I cranked up the rear roll bar and it made all the difference in those tight bends.  It was more like driving a Rally Cross car, drifting over the loose stuff, on the edge of control or in my case over it at times.

Re:- the qualifying, we used something similar in the GTL NZ organised league on Simjunkies, except that we had 15 mins to qualify - warm up and one flying lap.  We use to go out when we were ready with a 15 to 20 sec gap and usually all went well unless we were unfortunate to get caught up in a previous driver's incident.  In general over a period of a year plus it worked well.  We use to have 3 sprints so we had plenty of practice at getting it right.
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« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2011, 10:38:38 PM +0000 »


This was a test round. The next will be the 1st race in season 5.


Is that about the first week in May?
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« Reply #44 on: January 15, 2011, 10:47:41 PM +0000 »

This was a test round. The next will be the 1st race in season 5.
Is that about the first week in May?
Don't be silly Clive, you won't have to wait nearly so long Roll Eyes

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