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  • S20Gr Edmonton: February 06, 2011
February 06, 2011, 10:20:30 PM +0000 - Edmonton - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Privateers
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Ronniepeterson
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 1 1:30.080
101.019mph
1 50:19.433
96.439mph
32 1:32.585
98.285mph
Firestone  
bernie
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 3 +2.831
97.941mph
2 +48.780
94.906mph
32 1:33.022
97.824mph
Goodyear  
Michael Turner
 Soggy Bottom Racers Club
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 4 +3.067
97.692mph
3 +1L
92.244mph
31 1:34.130
96.672mph
Firestone  
Nigel Smith
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 7 +7.404
93.346mph
4 +2L
91.653mph
30 1:35.451
95.334mph
Firestone  
hannah
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 8 +7.877
92.895mph
5 (+1) +1:27.784
89.030mph
30 1:36.991
93.821mph
Goodyear  
BadBlood
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 9 +15.762
85.975mph
6 +4L
83.804mph
28 1:41.839
89.354mph
Firestone  
Billy Nobrakes
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 5 +3.680
97.054mph
7 +10L
90.265mph
22 1:34.612
96.180mph
Goodyear  
maddog
 Antipasti Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 6 +3.854
96.874mph
9 +19L
94.220mph
13 1:33.124
97.717mph
Firestone  
2 UKGPL_T7
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 10 10 DNS ---
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Goodyear  
il_lupo_mannaro
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 2 +2.434
98.361mph
Excluded +14L
90.280mph
18 1:33.475
97.350mph
Goodyear  

Moderator's Report

See below for incidents. We had one transgression of the reset rules.
Just a reminder it is useful for replay clips to be submitted, especially if you think warp might be a factor, but there's no need to waste your time submitting a clip from the server replay. We look at that already.


Server replay time: 0h05m51s

Mike T was closing on Hannah when he tapped him. It did not cause either driver to go off or lose any places. There was a speed differential and it is clear, when he realised how fast he was closing, Mike braked hard to slow down but couldn't completely avoid contact. Warp may also have played a factor.
Whilst Hannah is entitled to take an earlier braking position for the corner this would be the appropriate rule;

Simple Rear End Shunt: Penalty 1 Place
The victim was in full control but braked early (not counting lap 1) compared with the average for the division. The shunter had not followed the victim at a safe distance for a lap or two. The shunter was in full control.

However, as no one was affected and warp is a possible factor, it would not be deemed a full incident/shunt as such. Under the circumstances advice is appropriate.

  • Michael Turneradvice — Take extra care when approaching slower cars


Server replay time: 0h06m00s

On the following straight, after the above, Mike went right to overtake Hannah. The straight is very wide and Hannah could see Mike moving to go past on the right in his mirrors. Mike is making his pass when Hannah moves across and a collision ensues.
This is a very tricky one as Hannah is entitled to follow his line and Mike had no overlap at the point of contact. However Hannah should (and could) of seen Mike was going to pass and, being a wide straight, should not have moved across.
There are two possible penalties here;

Simple Side by Side contact: Penalty 1 Place
On a straight, the overtaking car moves out to overtake, maintains his line and has NOT achieved 100% overlap but the overtaken driver moves across into him. Penalty for overtaken driver.

Blatant Blocking/Weaving: Penalty 2 Places
The blocking driver changed his line in RESPONSE to the following car's movement and after the following car was committed to his line. Contact is made.

However extenuating circumstances are Mike had NO overlap (in fact his front wheel had only just crossed Hannah's rear), Hannah made a single move on his normal line and Mike could not assume a gap would be there and perhaps the safest way would have been an overtake to the left where there was plenty of room.

Accordingly a penalty place will not be applied but on balance Hannah's contribution was the more severe.

  • hannah (hannah hurricane)warning — Leave room for other drivers — also, 1 place lost for penalty points
  • Michael Turnercaution — Take care when passing and consider using the widest line


Server replay time: 0h29m56s

Fabio takes a second reset. The rules for Privateers are clear on this; 'Any driver taking more then ONE Shift-R OR failing to take a Stop & Go will be disqualified from the race result'. It is appreciated a second Stop & Go was taken but this makes no difference.

February 06, 2011, 10:49:26 PM +0000 - Edmonton - UKGPL Season 20 (2010-2011) Graduates Cup (67) Works
Driver
 Team
Nat. Make Model Class Qualifying Race
Tyres Pos Time/Gap Pos Time/Gap Laps Stops Best Retirement
reason
Ballast
Tom van Ostade
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 2 +0.640
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1 48:13.338
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32 1:29.088
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Firestone  
Al Heller
 Clark-Hill Racing
Lotus 49 (Cosworth) F1 1967 6 +1.967
---
2 +1:08.701
---
32 1:30.886
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Firestone  
Hristo Itchov
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 1 1:28.486
---
3 +1L
---
31 1:28.483
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Firestone  
EvilClive
 HikiWazaRacing
Honda RA300 F1 1967 5 +1.731
---
4 +1:49.856
---
31 1:30.634
---
Firestone  
Podkrecony_Ziutek
 Clark-Hill Racing
Cooper T81b (Maserati) F1 1967 11 +4.310
---
5 +1:55.864
---
31 1:31.617
---
Firestone  
john roberts
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 9 +3.590
---
6 +2:10.434
---
31 1:31.544
---
Goodyear  
kinghiro
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 13 +5.303
---
7 +6L
---
26 1:34.591
---
Goodyear  
b_1_rd
 Clark-Hill Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 12 +4.440
---
8 +14L
---
18 1:32.219
---
Goodyear  
Baab
 
BRM P115 F1 1967 8 +2.758
---
9 +15L
---
17 1:31.861
---
Goodyear  
fpolicardi
 Team7
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 10 +3.874
---
10 +17L
---
15 1:31.762
---
Goodyear  
FullMetalGasket
 Black Night Racing
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 7 +2.396
---
11 +19L
---
13 1:31.120
---
Goodyear  
Pelle_B
 TEAM-GTLDK
Honda RA300 F1 1967 4 +1.255
---
12 +30L
---
2 1:33.556
---
Firestone  
vosblod
 Clark-Hill Racing
BRM P115 F1 1967 13 +31L
---
1 2:17.866
---
Goodyear  
jhalli
 
Brabham BT24 (Repco) F1 1967 3 +0.753
---
14 +32L
---
0 ---
---
Goodyear  
Gpg UKGPL
 
Ferrari 312 (1967) F1 1967 15 DNS ---
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Firestone  

Moderator's Report

Nice and simple as no reported incidents in this one.

SimRacing.org.uk Lap Records
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1967
1:28.486
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Hristo Itchov
Qualifying
Honda RA300February 06, 2011, 10:49:26 PM +0000
S20GrW
Grand Prix Legends
F1 1967
1:28.483
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Hristo Itchov
Race
Honda RA300February 06, 2011, 10:49:26 PM +0000
S20GrW
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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2011, 01:25:58 PM +0000 »

We don't keep official server one's that far back and I wasn't involved that season so don't have anything lurking on my pc.
You might hit lucky if someone has a dusty old copy left on their shelves.
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« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2011, 02:28:11 PM +0000 »

I believe I still have a copy of that race. Not sure where I can post it mind. Any suggestions?
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« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2011, 02:32:01 PM +0000 »

I believe I still have a copy of that race. Not sure where I can post it mind. Any suggestions?
I use megaupload.com (free) but there are other similar sites.
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« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2011, 02:38:53 PM +0000 »

Ah, I didn't realise you didn't have to register! I'll try and upload the replay by tomorrow, I don't think I'll have the time to go on my racing rig tonight  angel.
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« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2011, 02:45:08 PM +0000 »

Ah, I didn't realise you didn't have to register! I'll try and upload the replay by tomorrow, I don't think I'll have the time to go on my racing rig tonight  angel.

Thanks in advance Sam!

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« Reply #50 on: February 17, 2011, 11:50:58 PM +0000 »

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« Reply #51 on: February 18, 2011, 12:20:58 AM +0000 »

Accordingly a penalty place will not be applied but on balance Hannah's contribution was the more severe.

Michael Turner — caution — Take care when passing and consider using the widest line
hannah (hannah hurricane) — warning — Leave room for other drivers — also, 1 place lost for penalty points

Er. Which is it Tim? There is a whole 5 points at stake here!
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« Reply #52 on: February 18, 2011, 12:24:22 AM +0000 »

Accordingly a penalty place will not be applied but on balance Hannah's contribution was the more severe.

Michael Turner — caution — Take care when passing and consider using the widest line
hannah (hannah hurricane) — warning — Leave room for other drivers — also, 1 place lost for penalty points

Er. Which is it Tim? There is a whole 5 points at stake here!
The one place lost is due to a yellow card accrual automatically applied by the system. Please don't ask me to go through the process of that again surrender, we've had discussions on previous posts.
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« Reply #53 on: February 19, 2011, 02:15:28 PM +0000 »

Is it just me or has the championship table gone walkabout.
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« Reply #54 on: February 19, 2011, 02:48:20 PM +0000 »

Is it just me or has the championship table gone walkabout.

This one ?

https://www.simracing.org.uk/smf/index.php?action=LM2R&group=295&theme=6


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